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Post by stapletongas on Aug 12, 2018 12:28:18 GMT
DC has lost the plot big time That is a gross exaggeration.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 12, 2018 12:36:38 GMT
Can't believe people still think Holloway would be a better choice than DC.
22% win rate at Millwall and 32.5% at QPR both recently.
May have got Palace promoted but I know a Palace fan who doesn't look back too fondly on his time there and basically got promoted with a team Dougie Freedman built and was doing well with before leaving 4th place Palace for a much lower Bolton team.
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Post by baggins on Aug 12, 2018 12:51:56 GMT
DC has lost the plot big time That is a gross exaggeration. Ignore him, he only goes to a few games every season and just judges performances from what he hears.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Aug 12, 2018 12:54:10 GMT
That is a gross exaggeration. Ignore him, he only goes to a few games every season and just judges performances from what he hears. Can't believe people still take him seriously. Biggest wum on here, and that's saying something.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 12, 2018 12:59:52 GMT
Can't believe people still think Holloway would be a better choice than DC. 22% win rate at Millwall and 32.5% at QPR both recently. May have got Palace promoted but I know a Palace fan who doesn't look back too fondly on his time there and basically got promoted with a team Dougie Freedman built and was doing well with before leaving 4th place Palace for a much lower Bolton team. Apart from Midland Gas, I don't think anybody else has said that Holloway would be a better choice than DC have they?
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Post by baggins on Aug 12, 2018 13:10:57 GMT
Can't believe people still think Holloway would be a better choice than DC. 22% win rate at Millwall and 32.5% at QPR both recently. May have got Palace promoted but I know a Palace fan who doesn't look back too fondly on his time there and basically got promoted with a team Dougie Freedman built and was doing well with before leaving 4th place Palace for a much lower Bolton team. Apart from Midland Gas, I don't think anybody else has said that Holloway would be a better choice than DC have they? Apart from midlandgas no-one has said DC needs to go full stop.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 12, 2018 13:16:04 GMT
I honestly think you have lost the plot Ollie has had quite a few opportunities as a manager, in the main he hasn't been particularly successful. What makes you believe he should return to the Gas? I don't think he will or should
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Post by baggins on Aug 12, 2018 13:27:15 GMT
Ollie has had quite a few opportunities as a manager, in the main he hasn't been particularly successful. What makes you believe he should return to the Gas? I don't think he will or should Is he Managerial record better than DC?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 12, 2018 13:53:47 GMT
I could write this is in one of the many threads on yesterday's game... manager is always going to take some blame but ultimately the players have to go out and perform ultimately they never. The keeper and and Payne only 2 for me that can come away from yesterday with saying they did all they could. The team look very disjointed and the shape was all over the place, anyone sat in the stands could see this. There was a lack of movement and players were resorting to chance balls up field that some times come off. When I watch these sort of games I think to myself do our players every watch Man City, liverpool, Tottenham all these good footballing sides and think we should adopt their style of play...I know our players aren't world class but some if it is basic... move into space so you can receive a pass. We have a new pitch and it was hardly used. Our biggest problems for me is full backs and centre of midfield pairing. We were beat out wide and looked slow, we have two wide midfielders who are not defensive minded so are always exposed to be fair to them. The centre of midfield was slow and were almost non existent can't play O clarke and Upson, they were second to every ball and never looked like controlling the game - which is sort players we need. Just wasn't a good day at the office. Hoping the team are capable of producing better performance. You say you can't blame the manager it's the players fault but then say we picked the wrong players? What's baffling is why the players can't seemingly raised themselves for the first game of the season, that's two seasons running we've been hopeless.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 12, 2018 15:50:52 GMT
DC is the only man I'd trust right now to get the best out of this limited squad. We have invested literally nothing into the defensive unit and In my opinion he will need to hope for 2 reliable loans, suggesting he is not the man to take us forward gives me a sense of fear, and some posters on here should be careful what they wish for!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 16:18:36 GMT
I'm starting to worry that DC has lost his hunger...I mean I've no doubt he wants to succeed in football, but does he want to succeed here with things as they are? I'm sure we have all stayed in jobs too long and things have gone stale.
Looking at some of the signings, the lack of pace and verve, players playing out of position, poor preparation for the start of the season...it feels like there is a malaise creeping in. The sort of malaise where teams run out of steam and sleepwalk into relegation.
Maybe it will pick up in a few games and we will steam-roll the league, but I rather worry that that 4-0 defeat to Exeter has set the tone for a long hard season.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 12, 2018 16:28:57 GMT
I'm starting to worry that DC has lost his hunger...I mean I've no doubt he wants to succeed in football, but does he want to succeed here with things as they are? I'm sure we have all stayed in jobs too long and things have gone stale. Looking at some of the signings, the lack of pace and verve, players playing out of position, poor preparation for the start of the season...it feels like there is a malaise creeping in. The sort of malaise where teams run out of steam and sleepwalk into relegation. Maybe it will pick up in a few games and we will steam-roll the league, but I rather worry that that 4-0 defeat to Exeter has set the tone for a long hard season. No chance! He knows his best chance of success long term is to be successful here... he will be fired up after this poor start... expect a few rockets up a few sore bottoms
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Post by blueridge on Aug 12, 2018 17:13:23 GMT
I'm starting to worry that DC has lost his hunger...I mean I've no doubt he wants to succeed in football, but does he want to succeed here with things as they are? I'm sure we have all stayed in jobs too long and things have gone stale. Looking at some of the signings, the lack of pace and verve, players playing out of position, poor preparation for the start of the season...it feels like there is a malaise creeping in. The sort of malaise where teams run out of steam and sleepwalk into relegation. Maybe it will pick up in a few games and we will steam-roll the league, but I rather worry that that 4-0 defeat to Exeter has set the tone for a long hard season. No chance! He knows his best chance of success long term is to be successful here... he will be fired up after this poor start... expect a few rockets up a few sore bottoms Starting with a bit of self indulgence on his own ("bottom").
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Post by richhertford on Aug 12, 2018 17:19:43 GMT
Don't panic peoples - every season DC uses the first few matches as experimental before he decides which and where the players should play - come Christmas we will be fine. It’s hard not to agree with this above. History tells us not to panic.
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Post by knowall on Aug 12, 2018 17:20:07 GMT
Don't panic peoples - every season DC uses the first few matches as experimental before he decides which and where the players should play - come Christmas we will be fine. You said the same about the stadium news but 6 months has now turned into 3 years! Not sure he needs to do much experimenting this season as the basic squad has hardly changed, the worry is that it's now 1 win in 13 league games, 2 wins from 16 league games, throw in the pre-season friendlies against league teams and it's just 1 in 16 games it's not just a slow start to this season. It's getting to the point players must be going out assuming they won't win. We've now two big games coming up this week where we need to win at least one. Do you always misread? I didn't say DC ' needs to do much experimenting', I just said what has happened previously (fact - check the stats) and by Christmas we are usually in a better place. (it's all about opinions Incidentally, I have yet to reach three years posting on this forum (fact)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 17:36:48 GMT
I don't think he will or should Is he Managerial record better than DC? Of course it is. Getting Blackpool and Palace to the Premier league far outweighs anything DC has achieved up to now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 17:41:34 GMT
You said the same about the stadium news but 6 months has now turned into 3 years! Not sure he needs to do much experimenting this season as the basic squad has hardly changed, the worry is that it's now 1 win in 13 league games, 2 wins from 16 league games, throw in the pre-season friendlies against league teams and it's just 1 in 16 games it's not just a slow start to this season. It's getting to the point players must be going out assuming they won't win. We've now two big games coming up this week where we need to win at least one. Do you always misread? I didn't say DC ' needs to do much experimenting', I just said what has happened previously (fact - check the stats) and by Christmas we are usually in a better place. (it's all about opinions Incidentally, I have yet to reach three years posting on this forum (fact) I hope you are right because history tells you if you keep selling your strikers and replacing them with inferior ones eventually your luck runs out and no amount of wishful thinking will change it. We have invested heavily in midfield where we now have at least 9 vyino for 4 places when it was obvious we needed a comman ding centre half and a left back I just hope that loans can be found to rectify this but I am not optimistic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 20:23:25 GMT
Do you always misread? I didn't say DC ' needs to do much experimenting', I just said what has happened previously (fact - check the stats) and by Christmas we are usually in a better place. (it's all about opinions Incidentally, I have yet to reach three years posting on this forum (fact) I hope you are right because history tells you if you keep selling your strikers and replacing them with inferior ones eventually your luck runs out and no amount of wishful thinking will change it. We have invested heavily in midfield where we now have at least 9 vyino for 4 places when it was obvious we needed a comman ding centre half and a left back I just hope that loans can be found to rectify this but I am not optimistic. I dont disagree with the point your making but i was wondering to myself if you would have bothered coming back on the forum if we won our 2 opening matches? I dont think you would have.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 12, 2018 20:37:06 GMT
I don't think he will or should Is he Managerial record better than DC? I loved Ollie as a player and watched him many times. I supported Ollie when he was our manager. DC is our manager now and has done so well for us. Despite my disappointment watching the match yesterday, there are a number of new players that need a little time to bed in. Afterall, DC has not let us down thus far. As for Ollie, stay a Rovers legend don't spoil it by comming back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 10:37:24 GMT
I hope you are right because history tells you if you keep selling your strikers and replacing them with inferior ones eventually your luck runs out and no amount of wishful thinking will change it. We have invested heavily in midfield where we now have at least 9 vyino for 4 places when it was obvious we needed a comman ding centre half and a left back I just hope that loans can be found to rectify this but I am not optimistic. I dont disagree with the point your making but i was wondering to myself if you would have bothered coming back on the forum if we won our 2 opening matches? I dont think you would have. It was nothing to do with whether we won or lost it was purely stating what anyone who is concerned about the club is thinking. Keep selling your best players and you will pay the price.everyone including the manager knew Brown was leaving way back in January and the chances of Harrison going got higher by the week and plans should have been made accordingly including offering Harrison an extension with the verbal agreement that if a sensible offer came in we would let him talk to the otheright club and by sensible I don't mean a buy out clause.a similar deal offered and accepted by lambert and agongoing. Not rocket science and would have meant we would have got a better deal. I have no desire to see rovers lose or get relegated but do not wear rose tinted glasses and realise things need sorting now and not wait till xmas.
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