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Post by warehamgas on Aug 13, 2018 19:16:55 GMT
Managers, like players, can make mistakes. I will wait and see how he changes things for the next league game and if he is still trying to fit square pegs in round holes I will be a bit more worried.This is why I like managers to get players in early doors so they get to know the coaches and squad, and more importantly for the coaches and squad to get to know them. At the moment it seems DC doesn't know his best team, and that is down to bad planning, and it showed by the players playing like they had just met each other. O.Clarke is still living off 2 seasons ago when he looked a player, I think DC is hoping he will rediscover his form but its been a year - not good enough. At least he bought my recommendation Stefan Payne, although if he would have done it when I recommended him (when we came up from the conference) he may have saved a few bob. Wasn’t there Saturday so can’t comment in detail but having got wide men in for this season it will be crazy to play Sercombe anywhere else than central midfield. Agree completely with the need to play players in their best positions, it’s what the best teams do. I like DC and have trust in him but I’m not sure if he’s ever really known his best team, our midfield has changed regularly over the years as has the keeper position and even the RB position. I’ve usually known the 13 from which the team will come but as to the final 11, that has always been uncertain under DC. UTG! |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 13, 2018 19:28:42 GMT
I'm starting to worry that DC has lost his hunger...I mean I've no doubt he wants to succeed in football, but does he want to succeed here with things as they are? I'm sure we have all stayed in jobs too long and things have gone stale. Looking at some of the signings, the lack of pace and verve, players playing out of position, poor preparation for the start of the season...it feels like there is a malaise creeping in. The sort of malaise where teams run out of steam and sleepwalk into relegation. Maybe it will pick up in a few games and we will steam-roll the league, but I rather worry that that 4-0 defeat to Exeter has set the tone for a long hard season. No chance! He knows his best chance of success long term is to be successful here... he will be fired up after this poor start... expect a few rockets up a few sore bottoms Both right. I can understand gas365 saying that. DC does play some mind games at times esp in interviews and it can give the impression that he’s a bit meh. I think it’s a kind of game with him but he does come over as “oh well I’m doing the best with the budget I’ve got” kind of attitude. But Kampuchea is totally right his best chance of success is to stay here and establish us in League 1 and then aim for another promotion but that will need patience and a longer game. DC is very good at solving problems, sorted out our poor start in the Conference, then he sorted out our poor home record in league 2 before sorting out our poor form before Christmas two years ago. Now he has to sort out our CH inability to defend crosses and settle on a midfield that will create for Payne and I hope Reilly. Get another promotion will us and he will be a legend. He will assume Eddie Howe-proportion status. He knows that and that is where his frustration comes from. So I have no worries about him, a few wins and things will change. UTG! |
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Post by midlandgas213 on Aug 13, 2018 21:17:37 GMT
No chance! He knows his best chance of success long term is to be successful here... he will be fired up after this poor start... expect a few rockets up a few sore bottoms Both right. I can understand gas365 saying that. DC does play some mind games at times esp in interviews and it can give the impression that he’s a bit meh. I think it’s a kind of game with him but he does come over as “oh well I’m doing the best with the budget I’ve got” kind of attitude. But Kampuchea is totally right his best chance of success is to stay here and establish us in League 1 and then aim for another promotion but that will need patience and a longer game. DC is very good at solving problems, sorted out our poor start in the Conference, then he sorted out our poor home record in league 2 before sorting out our poor form before Christmas two years ago. Now he has to sort out our CH inability to defend crosses and settle on a midfield that will create for Payne and I hope Reilly. Get another promotion will us and he will be a legend. He will assume Eddie Howe-proportion status. He knows that and that is where his frustration comes from. So I have no worries about him, a few wins and things will change. UTG! Ffs I don't who is the most deluded you or DC |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 13, 2018 21:22:32 GMT
Both right. I can understand gas365 saying that. DC does play some mind games at times esp in interviews and it can give the impression that he’s a bit meh. I think it’s a kind of game with him but he does come over as “oh well I’m doing the best with the budget I’ve got” kind of attitude. But Kampuchea is totally right his best chance of success is to stay here and establish us in League 1 and then aim for another promotion but that will need patience and a longer game. DC is very good at solving problems, sorted out our poor start in the Conference, then he sorted out our poor home record in league 2 before sorting out our poor form before Christmas two years ago. Now he has to sort out our CH inability to defend crosses and settle on a midfield that will create for Payne and I hope Reilly. Get another promotion will us and he will be a legend. He will assume Eddie Howe-proportion status. He knows that and that is where his frustration comes from. So I have no worries about him, a few wins and things will change. UTG! Ffs I don't who is the most deluded you or DC Are you a wum? You do realise we have been promoted twice and been solid mid table league 1 side for past 2 seasons under DC. What more do you want from the guy? |
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Post by midlandgas213 on Aug 13, 2018 21:58:02 GMT
Ffs I don't who is the most deluded you or DC Are you a wum? You do realise we have been promoted twice and been solid mid table league 1 side for past 2 seasons under DC. What more do you want from the guy? I would be very happy if he watered off and left the club |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 13, 2018 21:59:42 GMT
Both right. I can understand gas365 saying that. DC does play some mind games at times esp in interviews and it can give the impression that he’s a bit meh. I think it’s a kind of game with him but he does come over as “oh well I’m doing the best with the budget I’ve got” kind of attitude. But Kampuchea is totally right his best chance of success is to stay here and establish us in League 1 and then aim for another promotion but that will need patience and a longer game. DC is very good at solving problems, sorted out our poor start in the Conference, then he sorted out our poor home record in league 2 before sorting out our poor form before Christmas two years ago. Now he has to sort out our CH inability to defend crosses and settle on a midfield that will create for Payne and I hope Reilly. Get another promotion will us and he will be a legend. He will assume Eddie Howe-proportion status. He knows that and that is where his frustration comes from. So I have no worries about him, a few wins and things will change. UTG! Ffs I don't who is the most deluded you or DC Thank you, to compare me to DC is quite a compliment. Yawn. Yet another quality post from the most deluded member of all on here. Blimey mate why do you post? You rarely contribute to the thread with any constructive or thoughtful contribution. Just your one-man hatred and campaign against one of our best ever managers. You’ve turned yourself into a bit of a joke!😤 UTG! |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 13, 2018 22:03:37 GMT
Are you a wum? You do realise we have been promoted twice and been solid mid table league 1 side for past 2 seasons under DC. What more do you want from the guy? I would be very happy if he watered off and left the club Based on what, you must be the only person that thinks this. Don't you feel like you might be a bit harsh and sounding like you've lost it a little thinking that our most successful manager of recent times should be sacked? Imagine what DC could do if he had an even bigger budget. |
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Post by blueblood1883 on Aug 13, 2018 22:15:19 GMT
Ffs I don't who is the most deluded you or DC Thank you, to compare me to DC is quite a compliment. Yawn. Yet another quality post from the most deluded member of all on here. Blimey mate why do you post? You rarely contribute to the thread with any constructive or thoughtful contribution. Just your one-man hatred and campaign against one of our best ever managers. You’ve turned yourself into a bit of a joke!😤 UTG! I think by saying he's turned into a bit of a joke is inadvertently paying him a compliment.. |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 14, 2018 6:23:37 GMT
Thank you, to compare me to DC is quite a compliment. Yawn. Yet another quality post from the most deluded member of all on here. Blimey mate why do you post? You rarely contribute to the thread with any constructive or thoughtful contribution. Just your one-man hatred and campaign against one of our best ever managers. You’ve turned yourself into a bit of a joke!😤 UTG! I think by saying he's turned into a bit of a joke is inadvertently paying him a compliment.. Perhaps! But very inadvertently! 😉 UTG! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 6:25:43 GMT
I would be very happy if he watered off and left the club Based on what, you must be the only person that thinks this. Don't you feel like you might be a bit harsh and sounding like you've lost it a little thinking that our most successful manager of recent times should be sacked? Imagine what DC could do if he had an even bigger budget. I’m a DC fan but lose a few more games and if we’re still in the bottom six mid September I think there will be more midlandgas coming out of the woodwork,you can’t rest on your laurels in this game. DC needs to get the balance of the squad right. yes midlandgas is way over the top BTW |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 14, 2018 6:35:15 GMT
Yes harleygas you are right. After all the bad stuff over the past two weeks we really do need a few good results. If we don’t and DC comes under pressure it will be for footballing reasons. Not because one man has a vendetta against him. Other posters have said similar and they are correct. DC needs to sort out the weakness in defence and deciding upon his midfield.
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Post by blueridge on Aug 14, 2018 7:24:20 GMT
Yes harleygas you are right. After all the bad stuff over the past two weeks we really do need a few good results. If we don’t and DC comes under pressure it will be for footballing reasons. Not because one man has a vendetta against him. Other posters have said similar and they are correct. DC needs to sort out the weakness in defence and deciding upon his midfield. UTG! Totally agree with what you are saying. It's not only the back line he has to sort out - he has to sort very quickly what his strongest formation is and stick with it (home and away) - a lone striker up front on Saturday was baffling particularly against arguably one of the weakest teams in the league who had been turned over easily the previous week at home. Overall support for DC I'm sure will continue for a while yet, but two wins out of the last sixteen EFL games is very disappointing and many Manager's in the past have lost their job with these sort of results. I hope and expect a big improvement tonight and Saturday, otherwise it could start getting very difficult for him. |
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 14, 2018 7:46:01 GMT
Yes harleygas you are right. After all the bad stuff over the past two weeks we really do need a few good results. If we don’t and DC comes under pressure it will be for footballing reasons. Not because one man has a vendetta against him. Other posters have said similar and they are correct. DC needs to sort out the weakness in defence and deciding upon his midfield. UTG! Totally agree with what you are saying. It's not only the back line he has to sort out - he has to sort very quickly what his strongest formation is and stick with it (home and away) - a long striker up front on Saturday was baffling particularly against arguably one of the weakest teams in the league who had been turned over easily the previous week at home. Overall support for DC I'm sure will continue for a while yet, but two wins out of the last sixteen EFL games is very disappointing and many Manager's in the past have lost their job with these sort of results. I hope and expect a big improvement tonight and Saturday, otherwise it could start getting very difficult for him. Was Matty Le Snake 🐍 up front ? (Long striker....... tee hee...........) |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 14, 2018 8:41:02 GMT
Agree with all of the above. DC needs to get this defence ticking. He has to stick to two CBs, he has been unlucky that he has a few injuries or players lacking match fitness.
As i have said on other threads, i don't think the midfield pairing worked at all. I still see this as our weakest area. We don't ever seem to have a pair that seem to dictate the game. Saturday we were all over the place. I think O.C needs a strong ball winner around him, Upson doesn't appear to be that. Both good at their own games, but together a complete mismatch.
If DC needs to get a loan or 2 in, i would look at RB and a big CM.
But do i honestly think DC should be worried about his job at the start of September, 2 weeks away, where we would have played like 4 or 5 league games and 1 mickey mouse cup match. Absolutely not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 8:53:13 GMT
Agree with all of the above. DC needs to get this defence ticking. He has to stick to two CBs, he has been unlucky that he has a few injuries or players lacking match fitness. As i have said on other threads, i don't think the midfield pairing worked at all. I still see this as our weakest area. We don't ever seem to have a pair that seem to dictate the game. Saturday we were all over the place. I think O.C needs a strong ball winner around him, Upson doesn't appear to be that. Both good at their own games, but together a complete mismatch. If DC needs to get a loan or 2 in, i would look at RB and a big CM. But do i honestly think DC should be worried about his job at the start of September, 2 weeks away, where we would have played like 4 or 5 league games and 1 mickey mouse cup match. Absolutely not. Why do you want another CM we got enough and a RB ? We need a CB tall ugly and commanding plus a LB at the very least. Until the above our problems won’t go away plus DC needs too play players to their strengths. |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 14, 2018 9:39:25 GMT
Agree with all of the above. DC needs to get this defence ticking. He has to stick to two CBs, he has been unlucky that he has a few injuries or players lacking match fitness. As i have said on other threads, i don't think the midfield pairing worked at all. I still see this as our weakest area. We don't ever seem to have a pair that seem to dictate the game. Saturday we were all over the place. I think O.C needs a strong ball winner around him, Upson doesn't appear to be that. Both good at their own games, but together a complete mismatch. If DC needs to get a loan or 2 in, i would look at RB and a big CM. But do i honestly think DC should be worried about his job at the start of September, 2 weeks away, where we would have played like 4 or 5 league games and 1 mickey mouse cup match. Absolutely not. Why do you want another CM we got enough and a RB ? We need a CB tall ugly and commanding plus a LB at the very least. Until the above our problems won’t go away plus DC needs too play players to their strengths. We have no one in CM who appears to be able to get hold of the ball. The play bypasses them. We end up doing way too much defending in my eyes because of this. I dont rate James Clarke that highly, was caught watching the ball twice on Saturday. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 9:44:48 GMT
Are you a wum? You do realise we have been promoted twice and been solid mid table league 1 side for past 2 seasons under DC. What more do you want from the guy? You would all be very happy if I watered off and left the club Fixed it for you  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 11:55:25 GMT
Why do you want another CM we got enough and a RB ? We need a CB tall ugly and commanding plus a LB at the very least. Until the above our problems won’t go away plus DC needs too play players to their strengths. We have no one in CM who appears to be able to get hold of the ball. The play bypasses them. We end up doing way too much defending in my eyes because of this. I dont rate James Clarke that highly, was caught watching the ball twice on Saturday. I don’t rate JC either but a big ugly CB like myself and play TL there or Dl or parts when fit if ever. Trouble is DC signs too many players not up to speed bench warmers I call them. |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 14, 2018 12:00:11 GMT
Agree with all of the above. DC needs to get this defence ticking. He has to stick to two CBs, he has been unlucky that he has a few injuries or players lacking match fitness. As i have said on other threads, i don't think the midfield pairing worked at all. I still see this as our weakest area. We don't ever seem to have a pair that seem to dictate the game. Saturday we were all over the place. I think O.C needs a strong ball winner around him, Upson doesn't appear to be that. Both good at their own games, but together a complete mismatch. If DC needs to get a loan or 2 in, i would look at RB and a big CM. But do i honestly think DC should be worried about his job at the start of September, 2 weeks away, where we would have played like 4 or 5 league games and 1 mickey mouse cup match. Absolutely not. Agree with most but don’t need another midfielder. DC has to decide upon his team from what he’s got, I reckon part of the problem is we’ve too many and he’s finding it hard to d3cide who to leave out. He needs to make a decision and stick with it for a few games. UTG! |
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Post by baggins on Aug 14, 2018 12:03:38 GMT
We have no one in CM who appears to be able to get hold of the ball. The play bypasses them. We end up doing way too much defending in my eyes because of this. I dont rate James Clarke that highly, was caught watching the ball twice on Saturday. I don’t rate JC either but a big ugly CB like myself and play TL there or Dl or parts when fit if ever. Trouble is DC signs too many players not up to speed bench warmers I call them. Didn't JC put in the cross for Payne to score Saturday? |
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