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Post by lpgas on Dec 10, 2018 17:18:04 GMT
We get less money in Div 2 and 26 players on Division One contracts, hardly cheaper apart from the obvious fact that most will leave in the summer. Yes, but sadly not Payne Rodman or Nichols
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Post by lpgas on Dec 10, 2018 17:21:15 GMT
Just echoing the opinion, I doubt we could get a better manager at our level then DC. Why would we get rid of the one person who has clout that stands up to the owners? If DC left then whoever came in would be the owners pawn and wouldn't challenge them over anything. I would rather get relegated then not have transparency in the club. He's not here to mouth off about the owners or anyone here. He has a mid table budget and his job is to use that money to get us to mid table at the very least
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Post by glengas on Dec 10, 2018 19:32:49 GMT
Just echoing the opinion, I doubt we could get a better manager at our level then DC. Why would we get rid of the one person who has clout that stands up to the owners? If DC left then whoever came in would be the owners pawn and wouldn't challenge them over anything. I would rather get relegated then not have transparency in the club. He's not here to mouth off about the owners or anyone here. He has a mid table budget and his job is to use that money to get us to mid table at the very least DC has earned the right more than anyone else to express an opinion and he was feeding back what was said at the board meeting. He’s obviously fed up with the bull he and the rest of us have been fed. As he said, the only people performing at the club are the fans. Not DC, not the players and certainly not the invisible owners (bar a Q and A with the president if you catch him in the car park).Dark days.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 19:59:59 GMT
He's not here to mouth off about the owners or anyone here. He has a mid table budget and his job is to use that money to get us to mid table at the very least DC has earned the right more than anyone else to express an opinion and he was feeding back what was said at the board meeting. He’s obviously fed up with the bull he and the rest of us have been fed. As he said, the only people performing at the club are the fans. Not DC, not the players and certainly not the invisible owners (bar a Q and A with the president if you catch him in the car park).Dark days. maybe it’s time the fans don’t “perform” - get all the rest not performing to pull their finger out!
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 10, 2018 20:13:32 GMT
Just echoing the opinion, I doubt we could get a better manager at our level then DC. Why would we get rid of the one person who has clout that stands up to the owners? If DC left then whoever came in would be the owners pawn and wouldn't challenge them over anything. I would rather get relegated then not have transparency in the club. He's not here to mouth off about the owners or anyone here. He has a mid table budget and his job is to use that money to get us to mid table at the very least Easy said than done when the whole club's turned rotten on him, if you can't be bothered turning to watch the team on Saturday the perhaps players themselves can't be bothered playing for the owners and they want them out now as much as the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 23:15:59 GMT
If it is going to happen at all, today was surely the day that Darrell was going to be sacked. Most people can see past the recent run of results and can understand the bigger picture of what he's working with, but commenting so outspokenly about your boss/company would usually result in dismissal. Either way, after a big home defeat and an inflammatory interview like that, it's fair to suggest that he might have lost his job at some clubs today.
Fortunately though, the owners haven't done that. Whether that is because of the cost of sacking him, the inevitable backlash against them if they did, or perhaps a combination of the two, I don't know. Perhaps Wael has enough football nous to understand that no manager is likely to keep over achieving the way that Darrell has when his tools keep getting taken away and replaced with inferior ones (even accepting that the constraints of being a lower league club may mean that is the only sensible way to operate). Whatever. The important thing is that, thankfully, they haven't sacked him. And if they didn't today, surely they're not about to do so.
So how about we do what we're here to do and get behind him and the team? Aside from the obvious need for someone to put the ball in the net, the other thing that is needed if this club is going to stay up is some unity. As supporters, we can't do anything about the former but we sure as hell can play our part in the latter. Supporting the team when it's hard to do so is what Gasheads used to be good at...and what we've always had over them down the road. UTG
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Post by darkbluegas on Dec 10, 2018 23:43:42 GMT
If it is going to happen at all, today was surely the day that Darrell was going to be sacked. Most people can see past the recent run of results and can understand the bigger picture of what he's working with, but commenting so outspokenly about your boss/company would usually result in dismissal. Either way, after a big home defeat and an inflammatory interview like that, it's fair to suggest that he might have lost his job at some clubs today. Fortunately though, the owners haven't done that. Whether that is because of the cost of sacking him, the inevitable backlash against them if they did, or perhaps a combination of the two, I don't know. Perhaps Wael has enough football nous to understand that no manager is likely to keep over achieving the way that Darrell has when his tools keep getting taken away and replaced with inferior ones (even accepting that the constraints of being a lower league club may mean that is the only sensible way to operate). Whatever. The important thing is that, thankfully, they haven't sacked him. And if they didn't today, surely they're not about to do so. So how about we do what we're here to do and get behind him and the team? Aside from the obvious need for someone to put the ball in the net, the other thing that is needed if this club is going to stay up is some unity. As supporters, we can't do anything about the former but we sure as hell can play our part in the latter. Supporting the team when it's hard to do so is what Gasheads used to be good at...and what we've always had over them down the road. UTG I'd totally agree that, at the game, everyone should do all they can to encourage the side and show their support. However it's clear this decline has been a year in making and DC's attitude has been badly affected by the dealings with the owners. The owners won't be changing any time soon and now is the time for him to move on. That's both for his and our benefit. We're desperate for a manager with a positive attitude, unencumbered by the toxic relationship DC has with owners. The only thing in all honesty that's keeping DC in a job is the lack of leadership at the club.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 8:07:18 GMT
If it is going to happen at all, today was surely the day that Darrell was going to be sacked. Most people can see past the recent run of results and can understand the bigger picture of what he's working with, but commenting so outspokenly about your boss/company would usually result in dismissal. Either way, after a big home defeat and an inflammatory interview like that, it's fair to suggest that he might have lost his job at some clubs today. Fortunately though, the owners haven't done that. Whether that is because of the cost of sacking him, the inevitable backlash against them if they did, or perhaps a combination of the two, I don't know. Perhaps Wael has enough football nous to understand that no manager is likely to keep over achieving the way that Darrell has when his tools keep getting taken away and replaced with inferior ones (even accepting that the constraints of being a lower league club may mean that is the only sensible way to operate). Whatever. The important thing is that, thankfully, they haven't sacked him. And if they didn't today, surely they're not about to do so. So how about we do what we're here to do and get behind him and the team? Aside from the obvious need for someone to put the ball in the net, the other thing that is needed if this club is going to stay up is some unity. As supporters, we can't do anything about the former but we sure as hell can play our part in the latter. Supporting the team when it's hard to do so is what Gasheads used to be good at...and what we've always had over them down the road. UTG What’s all this over achieving we’re Bristol Rovers not Accrington Stanley ffs. No more excuses he’s got a squad of players he’s brought in.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 10:39:09 GMT
If it is going to happen at all, today was surely the day that Darrell was going to be sacked. Most people can see past the recent run of results and can understand the bigger picture of what he's working with, but commenting so outspokenly about your boss/company would usually result in dismissal. Either way, after a big home defeat and an inflammatory interview like that, it's fair to suggest that he might have lost his job at some clubs today. Fortunately though, the owners haven't done that. Whether that is because of the cost of sacking him, the inevitable backlash against them if they did, or perhaps a combination of the two, I don't know. Perhaps Wael has enough football nous to understand that no manager is likely to keep over achieving the way that Darrell has when his tools keep getting taken away and replaced with inferior ones (even accepting that the constraints of being a lower league club may mean that is the only sensible way to operate). Whatever. The important thing is that, thankfully, they haven't sacked him. And if they didn't today, surely they're not about to do so. So how about we do what we're here to do and get behind him and the team? Aside from the obvious need for someone to put the ball in the net, the other thing that is needed if this club is going to stay up is some unity. As supporters, we can't do anything about the former but we sure as hell can play our part in the latter. Supporting the team when it's hard to do so is what Gasheads used to be good at...and what we've always had over them down the road. UTG What’s all this over achieving we’re Bristol Rovers not Accrington Stanley ffs. No more excuses he’s got a squad of players he’s brought in. Look at our history. Not over the last 70 years, bit our more recent history that has more of an effect on the present day situation. Look at our 21st century record. We have spent most of that time lower than we are now and were two divisions lower just four years ago. Look at our infrastructure. Still no training facility worthy of the name. Still playing in a 'stadium' that quite frankly is 50 years out of date and is a total embarrassment. Look at how other clubs who used to be traditional rivals of ours have developed and progressed. Off the top of my head, Brighton, Bournemouth, Hull, Swansea, Cardiff, Huddersfield, Bristol City. There's probably more. Add to that the new kids on the block such as Fleetwood and soon Salford - clubs with a plan and the means to make it happen. While others have progressed, we have stood still, which effectively means we've gone backwards. Of course we have been over achieving, and while we are in League 1 with our current set up we will continue to be doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 12:02:10 GMT
We’ve been a league one club throughout most of are history being in the championship would be overachieving,did trolls,Gerry Francis,Holloway,megson go on about overachieving no they just got on with the job in hand the stadium they played in and a lower budgets,Francis even put his hand in his own pocket too help the players.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 12:12:48 GMT
If it is going to happen at all, today was surely the day that Darrell was going to be sacked. Most people can see past the recent run of results and can understand the bigger picture of what he's working with, but commenting so outspokenly about your boss/company would usually result in dismissal. Either way, after a big home defeat and an inflammatory interview like that, it's fair to suggest that he might have lost his job at some clubs today. Fortunately though, the owners haven't done that. Whether that is because of the cost of sacking him, the inevitable backlash against them if they did, or perhaps a combination of the two, I don't know. Perhaps Wael has enough football nous to understand that no manager is likely to keep over achieving the way that Darrell has when his tools keep getting taken away and replaced with inferior ones (even accepting that the constraints of being a lower league club may mean that is the only sensible way to operate). Whatever. The important thing is that, thankfully, they haven't sacked him. And if they didn't today, surely they're not about to do so. So how about we do what we're here to do and get behind him and the team? Aside from the obvious need for someone to put the ball in the net, the other thing that is needed if this club is going to stay up is some unity. As supporters, we can't do anything about the former but we sure as hell can play our part in the latter. Supporting the team when it's hard to do so is what Gasheads used to be good at...and what we've always had over them down the road. UTG You obviously missed the bit where he said this season's budget is the best he has had in his time at the club and is a mid table budget, so I think we can all finally bin the notion that he hasn't been supported. We are in the relegation zone because he has assembled a squad full of belters, some of whom he refuses to drop and others who he plays out of position. Nobody else's fault but DC's.
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Post by faggotygas on Dec 11, 2018 12:15:40 GMT
We’ve been a league one club throughout most of are history being in the championship would be overachieving,did trolls,Gerry Francis,Holloway,megson go on about overachieving no they just got on with the job in hand the stadium they played in and a lower budgets,Francis even put his hand in his own pocket too help the players. Francis left as soon as he overachieved.
Holloway never overachieved - he didn't get us promoted.
Trolls got the sack
Megson was 40 years ago.
The game 30, 40 years ago was very different to now. A lot less about money, a lot less money in it. Compared to our recent history, i.e. the last 20 years, we are overachieving.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 12:20:34 GMT
We’ve been a league one club throughout most of are history being in the championship would be overachieving,did trolls,Gerry Francis,Holloway,megson go on about overachieving no they just got on with the job in hand the stadium they played in and a lower budgets,Francis even put his hand in his own pocket too help the players. Francis left as soon as he overachieved.
Holloway never overachieved - he didn't get us promoted.
Trolls got the sack
Megson was 40 years ago.
The game 30, 40 years ago was very different to now. A lot less about money, a lot less money in it. Compared to our recent history, i.e. the last 20 years, we are overachieving.
So do you think DC is overachieving this season?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 11, 2018 12:24:49 GMT
Francis left as soon as he overachieved.
Holloway never overachieved - he didn't get us promoted.
Trolls got the sack
Megson was 40 years ago.
The game 30, 40 years ago was very different to now. A lot less about money, a lot less money in it. Compared to our recent history, i.e. the last 20 years, we are overachieving.
So do you think DC is overachieving this season? pedant. Obviously he/she meant generally in league one. Not this year.
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Post by LJG on Dec 11, 2018 13:18:56 GMT
Apart from anything else if DC hopes to attract players to the club in January or after why is he going on record on the radio to talk about how sh1te everything is here.
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Post by justin blue on Dec 11, 2018 13:31:46 GMT
Apart from anything else if DC hopes to attract players to the club in January or after why is he going on record on the radio to talk about how sh1te everything is here. As you say he isn't selling it very well.
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Post by baggins on Dec 11, 2018 13:37:23 GMT
Apart from anything else if DC hopes to attract players to the club in January or after why is he going on record on the radio to talk about how sh1te everything is here. As you say he isn't selling it very well. Secret tactics. That's what it is.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 11, 2018 13:40:28 GMT
As you say he isn't selling it very well. Secret tactics. That's what it is. yeah thing is he will probably use this tactic 60 times with no success before he changes tact eh
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 11, 2018 13:40:52 GMT
What’s all this over achieving we’re Bristol Rovers not Accrington Stanley ffs. No more excuses he’s got a squad of players he’s brought in. Look at our history. Not over the last 70 years, bit our more recent history that has more of an effect on the present day situation. Look at our 21st century record. We have spent most of that time lower than we are now and were two divisions lower just four years ago. Look at our infrastructure. Still no training facility worthy of the name. Still playing in a 'stadium' that quite frankly is 50 years out of date and is a total embarrassment. Look at how other clubs who used to be traditional rivals of ours have developed and progressed. Off the top of my head, Brighton, Bournemouth, Hull, Swansea, Cardiff, Huddersfield, Bristol City. There's probably more. Add to that the new kids on the block such as Fleetwood and soon Salford - clubs with a plan and the means to make it happen. While others have progressed, we have stood still, which effectively means we've gone backwards. Of course we have been over achieving, and while we are in League 1 with our current set up we will continue to be doing so. Clap clap clap. Football has changed and we haven't changed with it. Our 21st century record is indeed worrying.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 11, 2018 13:43:07 GMT
Look at our history. Not over the last 70 years, bit our more recent history that has more of an effect on the present day situation. Look at our 21st century record. We have spent most of that time lower than we are now and were two divisions lower just four years ago. Look at our infrastructure. Still no training facility worthy of the name. Still playing in a 'stadium' that quite frankly is 50 years out of date and is a total embarrassment. Look at how other clubs who used to be traditional rivals of ours have developed and progressed. Off the top of my head, Brighton, Bournemouth, Hull, Swansea, Cardiff, Huddersfield, Bristol City. There's probably more. Add to that the new kids on the block such as Fleetwood and soon Salford - clubs with a plan and the means to make it happen. While others have progressed, we have stood still, which effectively means we've gone backwards. Of course we have been over achieving, and while we are in League 1 with our current set up we will continue to be doing so. Clap clap clap. Football has changed and we haven't changed with it. Our 21st century record is indeed worrying. that's the thing about evolution. Survival of the fittest. You adapt slower than everyone else and you get wiped out. The evolution revolution was just another turd birthed from the lips of our beloved chairman anyway. Credibility zero.
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