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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 21:25:35 GMT
Says the poster who's being calling DC clueless even though his two promotions. As they say a fish rots from it's head not really sure changing the manager is going to change the bigger issues clearly at the club. It's clearly not,but we need improvement on the pitch and surely someone else can do no worse.
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Post by rosssgb on Dec 8, 2018 21:25:55 GMT
If Liverpool were to sell Salah this January, then Mane and Firminho in the next two transfer windows, and replaced them with players worth a combined 10 million, would they still be competing at the top of the league? Would they even be in the top half if they also sold VVD? We’ve shipped out Taylor, Bodin, Harrison and brown and brought in players for peanuts. Recipe for relegation whoever the manager is. Feel this needs a little bump given some of the posts above. While DC’s tactics and team selection has been awful this season, no matter who the manager is we are only heading in one direction as a club
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 21:26:31 GMT
Says the poster who's being calling DC clueless even though his two promotions. As they say a fish rots from it's head not really sure changing the manager is going to change the bigger issues clearly at the club. changing manager may sort our current players out! Keeping dc won’t! Plus his two promotions are old hat now! Life moves on! We may have bigger issues at the club but wael etc didn’t make a single footballing decision - they pay people to do that and those employed have been absolutely crap and need to pay the ultimate price I’m afraid.
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Post by rosssgb on Dec 8, 2018 21:33:55 GMT
Says the poster who's being calling DC clueless even though his two promotions. As they say a fish rots from it's head not really sure changing the manager is going to change the bigger issues clearly at the club. changing manager may sort our current players out! Keeping dc won’t! Plus his two promotions are old hat now! Life moves on! We may have bigger issues at the club but wael etc didn’t make a single footballing decision - they pay people to do that and those employed have been absolutely crap and need to pay the ultimate price I’m afraid. Quartered, I guess it comes down to opinions at this stage and while I agree with your sentiment that Wael pays DC for on the field performance, I just don’t think there is better out there either available or currently employed who would want to step into this situation. We’re in real trouble as a club, infrastructure of the 1960’s, ground from the 1920’s and training ground that isn’t even our own. Our fanbase and subsequent mid/low League 1 budget is the only thing going for us. Only person who’d be willing to step into that would be a journeyman like Steve Cotterill. I’d rather we just stick with DC at least for one season in league 2 and see if he can rebuild. A change of manager might get short term gain but long term we all need to as a fanbase be thinking bigger picture.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 21:39:01 GMT
changing manager may sort our current players out! Keeping dc won’t! Plus his two promotions are old hat now! Life moves on! We may have bigger issues at the club but wael etc didn’t make a single footballing decision - they pay people to do that and those employed have been absolutely crap and need to pay the ultimate price I’m afraid. Quartered, I guess it comes down to opinions at this stage and while I agree with your sentiment that Wael pays DC for on the field performance, I just don’t think there is better out there either available or currently employed who would want to step into this situation. We’re in real trouble as a club, infrastructure of the 1960’s, ground from the 1920’s and training ground that isn’t even our own. Our fanbase and subsequent mid/low League 1 budget is the only thing going for us. Only person who’d be willing to step into that would be a journeyman like Steve Cotterill. I’d rather we just stick with DC at least for one season in league 2 and see if he can rebuild. A change of manager might get short term gain but long term we all need to as a fanbase be thinking bigger picture. well somebody that sticks with a team and then tries to evolve it from a base would be a good start! Dc’s whole project mantra is massively to blame for our current predicament and newbies settling in so badly! Either we need a new dc or a new manager! Sod the bigger picture! One step at a time!
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Post by rosssgb on Dec 8, 2018 21:41:21 GMT
A change of manager might get short term gain but long term we all need to as a fanbase be thinking bigger picture. Sod the bigger picture! One step at a time! Fair enough but by that logic you’d be churning an awful lot of managers and paying a lot of people who’re no longer employed by the club
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 21:47:28 GMT
Quartered, I guess it comes down to opinions at this stage and while I agree with your sentiment that Wael pays DC for on the field performance, I just don’t think there is better out there either available or currently employed who would want to step into this situation. We’re in real trouble as a club, infrastructure of the 1960’s, ground from the 1920’s and training ground that isn’t even our own. Our fanbase and subsequent mid/low League 1 budget is the only thing going for us. Only person who’d be willing to step into that would be a journeyman like Steve Cotterill. I’d rather we just stick with DC at least for one season in league 2 and see if he can rebuild. A change of manager might get short term gain but long term we all need to as a fanbase be thinking bigger picture. well somebody that sticks with a team and then tries to evolve it from a base would be a good start! Dc’s whole project mantra is massively to blame for our current predicament and newbies settling in so badly! Either we need a new dc or a new manager! Sod the bigger picture! One step at a time! Or...DC's whole project mantra got us to our highest level for years.
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Post by darkbluegas on Dec 8, 2018 22:03:34 GMT
well somebody that sticks with a team and then tries to evolve it from a base would be a good start! Dc’s whole project mantra is massively to blame for our current predicament and newbies settling in so badly! Either we need a new dc or a new manager! Sod the bigger picture! One step at a time! Or...DC's whole project mantra got us to our highest level for years. Unfortunately this particular project could see us hurtling back to our lowest point. It's beyond belief how fans think our performances are magically going to turn around. This slump has been twelve months in the making. For goodness sake give a new manager a couple of weeks to assess the squad before the transfer window opens.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 22:28:49 GMT
Or...DC's whole project mantra got us to our highest level for years. Unfortunately this particular project could see us hurtling back to our lowest point. It's beyond belief how fans think our performances are magically going to turn around. This slump has been twelve months in the making. For goodness sake give a new manager a couple of weeks to assess the squad before the transfer window opens. I don't believe it is going to magically turn around whoever is in charge. But I'd rather have DC in charge if we do go down as he has shown he has what it takes to get us up from that league. Sacking DC would tear this club apart. Look at the split on this forum, where it would appear that the majority still support him. The reaction of the crowd in chanting his name at the end supports that view. If he goes, the crowd will turn on the board and any new manager's job will be made even harder.
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Post by farmygas on Dec 8, 2018 22:35:18 GMT
The fact that people honestly think DC is the problem atm is honestly laughable
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Post by midlandgas213 on Dec 8, 2018 22:41:17 GMT
The fact that people honestly think DC is the problem atm is honestly laughable Don't make a fool to f yourself by making such silly comments he s the only reason we are in this mess and it has gone on all my f this year whatever he had for Christmas last year as certainly affected him
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Post by midlandgas213 on Dec 8, 2018 22:41:43 GMT
Come on DC give us all an early Christmas present and f**k off
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 8, 2018 22:42:55 GMT
Would you really trust this board to employ a decent manager if they sacked DC?
You couldn’t trust them to change a lightbulb competently let alone a football manager.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 22:44:43 GMT
The fact that people honestly think DC is the problem atm is honestly laughable Why? I'm behind DC but the reason we are where we are is the recent recruitment strategy which has been dreadful. Our budget is competitive at this level and he has been backed in the market. If we were mid table and our strikers knew where the back of the net was, feelings towards the owners would be far more neutral.
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Post by bs14gas on Dec 8, 2018 22:50:00 GMT
Come on DC give us all an early Christmas present and f**k off Wouldn’t change a thing if he went. Starts from the top, ‘landing lights are on’....’new state of the art training ground’. All been a load of rubbish, was never happening. DC turned down a championship side because he believed it was, as well as us, and signed a new deal. Think the morale at the whole club is so bad because we all now know nothing is happening and it never was. As well as players who now know f all is happening to take the club forward
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 8, 2018 22:54:12 GMT
Would you really trust this board to employ a decent manager if they sacked DC? You couldn’t trust them to change a lightbulb competently let alone a football manager. This. DCs persistence in the face of failure is admirable to a degree but it won't serve him well in the long term either with us or someone else. It's obvious he needs to learn that picking goalless strikers in the hope they will come good works to a point but not 60 times. He absolutely needs to shoulder some blame for the tactics and selection because this squad is capable of doing better than it is. But sacking the manager is only a good option if the alternative is better. Are there any better alternatives out there? Maybe. Would the board invest in any of them? Absolutely not. They are more than likely happy to allow a relegation and savour the potential drop in wages safe in the knowledge that the faithful will turn up regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 22:55:01 GMT
The fact that people honestly think DC is the problem atm is honestly laughable Why? I'm behind DC but the reason we are where we are is the recent recruitment strategy which has been dreadful. Our budget is competitive at this level and he has been backed in the market. If we were mid table and our strikers knew where the back of the net was, feelings towards the owners would be far more neutral. Exactly, he has himself admitted he has a midtable budget yet his recruitment has turned us into a team that literally all fans admit will get relegated. How is that anyone else's fault but DC's?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 8, 2018 22:55:41 GMT
Come on DC give us all an early Christmas present and f**k off Wouldn’t change a thing if he went. Starts from the top, ‘landing lights are on’....’new state of the art training ground’. All been a load of rubbish, was never happening. DC turned down a championship side because he believed it was, as well as us, and signed a new deal. Think the morale at the whole club is so bad because we all now know nothing is happening and it never was. As well as players who now know f all is happening to take the club forward Sorry to spam the thread but you make a good point and the only other thing I'd add is that there is a good reason why they are no longer wheeling out Hamer or Wael to communicate and its because they know that we now know they are completely full of sh**.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Dec 8, 2018 22:57:21 GMT
Come on DC give us all an early Christmas present and f**k off Wouldn’t change a thing if he went. Starts from the top, ‘landing lights are on’....’new state of the art training ground’. All been a load of rubbish, was never happening. DC turned down a championship side because he believed it was, as well as us, and signed a new deal. Think the morale at the whole club is so bad because we all now know nothing is happening and it never was. As well as players who now know f all is happening to take the club forward The most depressing thing is that the owners seemingly aren’t bothered about growing the club. ‘A lick of paint here and a hand dryer there will keep ‘em quiet.’ At least under Higgs we knew his intentions were in the right place. He would have done anything to deliver us a new stadium and training ground. We had hope for a brighter future. The level of uncertainty over our future with this lot is worrying. They could pull the plug and shaft us. Nobody really knows who they are and what they want. Not once have they shown their hand. The fact that we are going to have to rely on some cheap loans in January to save our league one status paints a picture. This isn’t the dream we were sold.
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Post by utg12 on Dec 8, 2018 23:01:01 GMT
Come on DC give us all an early Christmas present and f**k off Very very disrespectful language. That post is not even worthy of a 5 year old.
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