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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 9, 2018 14:56:54 GMT
It all seems like deja vu. The owners have done the maths imo. League 2 success will be more profitable than poor or mediocre league 1. They will stick with DC rather than pay him off, and plan for relegation. Lower wage bill, comparable or better gates if pushing for top 6 place. Seems obvious to me. But this is Bristol Rovers!!!! We get less money in Div 2 and 26 players on Division One contracts, hardly cheaper This is the big worry, cos relegation is Armageddon if you aren’t ready for it (and I’m pretty sure current regime is no more ready than higgs / Watola were). Lower income, same costs, it’s gonna be more than the cuts DC was referring to I fear. We have to invest now to survive, with or without DC, alternative doesn’t bear thinking about. So wake up whoever is in charge, there’s a coffee to be smelt when you’re ready
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Post by madgas on Dec 9, 2018 15:02:48 GMT
I can’t support this.
Fantastic manager.
Best in my lifetime.
Just need a striker ASAP
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Post by thegasfc on Dec 9, 2018 15:32:22 GMT
This thread still stands in my eyes though I can now see that this club stinks from top to bottom. Wael needs to go - he clearly does not have the money required to keep this club afloat.
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Post by sageonion on Dec 9, 2018 15:53:11 GMT
Lots of talk about DC in / out but say he were to get sacked / walk who is available to take his place that everyone would want?
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Post by twertonboy on Dec 9, 2018 16:04:00 GMT
I know lots won’t agree but for me Ollie or Paul hurst.. I know Ollie isn’t a favourite from his last spell and I think he’s lost his way abit but he’s gas through and through and has good connections for players coming in Paul hurst would be good but him buying Harrison does make me wonder if he’s our man as Harrison isn’t a championship quality striker after one half decent season In league one for us..but if he can get the best out of a player like Payne then it does give me hope
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Post by twertonboy on Dec 9, 2018 16:08:49 GMT
The thing is wael has caused this since the stadium going tits up.. Just been a sour shocking feeling of f**k the lot of you and I don’t owe you an explanation attitude.. Hamer being cattle prodded out to ramble sh** and to replace brookman with himself really takes the biscuit as I struggle to hear him on the radio moaning about this and that and acting as if everything is honky dory
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 9, 2018 17:10:54 GMT
The thing is wael has caused this since the stadium going tits up.. Just been a sour shocking feeling of f**k the lot of you and I don’t owe you an explanation attitude.. Hamer being cattle prodded out to ramble sh** and to replace brookman with himself really takes the biscuit as I struggle to hear him on the radio moaning about this and that and acting as if everything is honky dory GIven we've mainly played in cr@p stadiums for most of our lifetimes how can the UWE going tits up (which he virtually did under NH's reign anyway) be the reason we're so cr@p on the pitch at present, most players are only on 1 or 2 year contracts so they are never likely to play in a new stadium even if it was being built. If DC's let the fact the lack of a new stadium has got to him then he really needs to put that aside and get on with what he's paid to do, manage a Div 1 side with a decent playing budget. If he feels incapable of doing that he needs to agree a severance deal with the owners before he has another relegation on his CV. As far as potential new managers, Cotterell, Hirst or Holloway (who seems to have burnt his bridges with the owners with his BP articles) are all capable managers who probably understand the Rovers set up.
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Post by utg12 on Dec 9, 2018 17:39:27 GMT
It all seems like deja vu. The owners have done the maths imo. League 2 success will be more profitable than poor or mediocre league 1. They will stick with DC rather than pay him off, and plan for relegation. Lower wage bill, comparable or better gates if pushing for top 6 place. Seems obvious to me. But this is Bristol Rovers!!!! We get less money in Div 2 and 26 players on Division One contracts, hardly cheaper Not as true as you think. Catch up. Football has changed . The difference between EFL money for Lge 2 and Le 1 is not that big. The difference in average players wages between the two is also not that big. The big gap now is between lge1/ Lge 2 and championship.
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Post by utg12 on Dec 9, 2018 17:42:38 GMT
I know lots won’t agree but for me Ollie or Paul hurst.. I know Ollie isn’t a favourite from his last spell and I think he’s lost his way abit but he’s gas through and through and has good connections for players coming in Paul hurst would be good but him buying Harrison does make me wonder if he’s our man as Harrison isn’t a championship quality striker after one half decent season In league one for us..but if he can get the best out of a player like Payne then it does give me hope If Ollie took the job after his comments about the owners he would be a huge hypocrite and therefore not the right man for the job (if there is a job.....) He also won't support people who sacked one of his mates (Holtby).
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Post by twertonboy on Dec 9, 2018 17:51:49 GMT
The thing is wael has caused this since the stadium going tits up.. Just been a sour shocking feeling of f**k the lot of you and I don’t owe you an explanation attitude.. Hamer being cattle prodded out to ramble sh** and to replace brookman with himself really takes the biscuit as I struggle to hear him on the radio moaning about this and that and acting as if everything is honky dory GIven we've mainly played in cr@p stadiums for most of our lifetimes how can the UWE going tits up (which he virtually did under NH's reign anyway) be the reason we're so cr@p on the pitch at present, most players are only on 1 or 2 year contracts so they are never likely to play in a new stadium even if it was being built. If DC's let the fact the lack of a new stadium has got to him then he really needs to put that aside and get on with what he's paid to do, manage a Div 1 side with a decent playing budget. If he feels incapable of doing that he needs to agree a severance deal with the owners before he has another relegation on his CV. As far as potential new managers, Cotterell, Hirst or Holloway (who seems to have burnt his bridges with the owners with his BP articles) are all capable managers who probably understand the Rovers set up. I’m not blaming us being shocking on the pitch on wael im blaming him for having naff all to do with the club because he didn’t get his golden egg of a stadium which blatantly was the only reason for buying the club and since that’s not happening he’s fed up of his toy club
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 17:56:01 GMT
I know lots won’t agree but for me Ollie or Paul hurst.. I know Ollie isn’t a favourite from his last spell and I think he’s lost his way abit but he’s gas through and through and has good connections for players coming in Paul hurst would be good but him buying Harrison does make me wonder if he’s our man as Harrison isn’t a championship quality striker after one half decent season In league one for us..but if he can get the best out of a player like Payne then it does give me hope If Ollie took the job after his comments about the owners he would be a huge hypocrite and therefore not the right man for the job (if there is a job.....) He also won't support people who sacked one of his mates (Holtby). They didn’t sack Holtby.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 9, 2018 17:57:42 GMT
I know lots won’t agree but for me Ollie or Paul hurst.. I know Ollie isn’t a favourite from his last spell and I think he’s lost his way abit but he’s gas through and through and has good connections for players coming in Paul hurst would be good but him buying Harrison does make me wonder if he’s our man as Harrison isn’t a championship quality striker after one half decent season In league one for us..but if he can get the best out of a player like Payne then it does give me hope If Ollie took the job after his comments about the owners he would be a huge hypocrite and therefore not the right man for the job (if there is a job.....) He also won't support people who sacked one of his mates (Holtby). It'll be interesting to see what happens if DC did leave, could Ollie resist managing Rovers if offered the job, what's the alternative for him remain a TV pundit until they get bored with him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 22:33:10 GMT
What does dc offer us going forward? He’s a great spokesman for the fans but as a manager. I’m playing devils advocate a bit as I’ve seen it all first hand but I’m interested to know what strengths the dc fans feel he has that enabled him to get back to back promotions. In other words where did it go wrong and what was right in the first place? Deep one. Did he make the players or did the players make him?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 23:51:03 GMT
We get less money in Div 2 and 26 players on Division One contracts, hardly cheaper Not as true as you think. Catch up. Football has changed . The difference between EFL money for Lge 2 and Le 1 is not that big. The difference in average players wages between the two is also not that big. The big gap now is between lge1/ Lge 2 and championship. According to footballers v fans website which in my view seems reasonable. Championship average £10,998 league one £ 2,312 league two £ 1,124 Thats more than double between league one and two however as tommy widdrington has already stated that more than 90% of the squad are out of contract its not exactly a mortal blow financially.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Dec 10, 2018 8:33:41 GMT
I look forward to you getting your crayons out and making a little sign for the poor sap they get in after DC. Ignore him. He's actually in the Midlands and doesn't go to any games at all. Blokes an idiot. The only idiots on here are those that think that DC is the man for the job
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Post by midlandgas213 on Dec 10, 2018 8:36:20 GMT
Don't make a fool to f yourself by making such silly comments he s the only reason we are in this mess and it has gone on all my f this year whatever he had for Christmas last year as certainly affected him I look forward to you getting your crayons out and making a little sign for the poor sap they get in after DC. Your a cheeky little so and so arnt you and the poor chap ( not sap) will have a big mess to sort out so the sooner the better to give us a chance of staying up
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Post by singupgas on Dec 10, 2018 8:52:38 GMT
This thread still stands in my eyes though I can now see that this club stinks from top to bottom. Wael needs to go - he clearly does not have the money required to keep this club afloat. Out of his depth, doesn't control the purse strings for the club he is supposed to be the leader of. Please sell Wael. Give our club chance, we need someone who wants to progress us and not see us rot in a sh**e ground and in league 2.
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Post by baggins on Dec 10, 2018 11:04:38 GMT
Ignore him. He's actually in the Midlands and doesn't go to any games at all. Blokes an idiot. The only idiots on here are those that think that DC is the man for the job Ok.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 12:20:51 GMT
Cannot believe we are getting the dusters out still! Still a few hours left.. waiting for news! For me this is life and death in relation to me going 22nd and 1st - if nothing happens and with the same squad then I cannot be arsed until signings are made at very least! I’ve paid via my ST anyway so club won’t be losing out but it’ll save me some unpleasant weekends and a ruined Christmas!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 12:34:57 GMT
Paul heckingbottom, Paul Clement, Brian McDermott, Mark warburton, Paul hurst, Simon Grayson, Russell slade, Steve cotterill and Ian Holloway all available! Not all my cup of tea but all realistic imo.
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