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Post by cj on Dec 13, 2018 22:15:39 GMT
After what DC had done for us, he deserved this coming transfer window to rectify our current position. He already said he new where the team needed strengthening and I bet he already had an idea who he wanted to leave and I bet he already had targets in mind for their replacements. I am sure his business would have been done early in the transfer window so we can start sorting our fortunes on the pitch without wasting games.
Starnes said that he doubts the new manager will be in place by new year. This means whoever is the new manager, will most likely miss the start of the January transfer window. He will need time to assess the team and decide where he needs to strengthen and which players that he thinks need to go to be able to have funds to bring in new faces. This will take time. By the time the new manager is ready to do business in the transfer market, I reckon the new manager will have 7 - 10 days available to him to get rid of players and get in players who he feels will keep us up. That's not long at all. This also means we will be wasting games while we are waiting for this to happen. Games we cant afford to waste.
Come February, we could be too far behind. Terrible terrible decision by the club. If they were going to sack DC (which I strongly feel is the wrong decision) then they should have done it mid November. New manager to arrive start of December and then he got a month to assess the squad and decide who goes and who he wants ready for the January window.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Dec 13, 2018 22:42:48 GMT
This just sums you up, do you really think the owners will appoint somebody who's spent the last few weeks slagging off the owners in the local press? Blokes an absolute f**king Now if I had said that I would have been banned for being aggressive same rules for all please
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 22:48:23 GMT
Blokes an absolute f**king Now if I had said that I would have been banned for being aggressive same rules for all please Don’t hold your breath mate, if you are not in the click look out. It It may pay to have a word with P C Rowen he might help you out😉
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Post by midlandgas213 on Dec 13, 2018 22:56:37 GMT
Just realised it is the thirteenth and I am not superstitious but instead of being unlucky it is certainly a lucky day for the club
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Post by RD on Dec 13, 2018 23:10:53 GMT
Now if I had said that I would have been banned for being aggressive same rules for all please Don’t hold your breath mate, if you are not in the click look out. It It may pay to have a word with P C Rowen he might help you out😉 Oh cry me a river - this is your 4th account. You must be due another "tantrum and delete" soon
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Post by readinggas on Dec 14, 2018 0:17:18 GMT
Plenty of knee-jerk reactions on here, perhaps understandably.
I can only repeat what I've said before. We've had great times under DC and he'll go down as one our best managers (although we don't have many jostling for that accolade in all honesty) and I truly wish him well. But the wheels have fallen off in the last 18 months.
He's not helped himself. Players out of position, dropping good performers for the next match, ignoring the youth set-up, playing defensive formations at home, playing a 'striker' who can't hit a barn door (despite his obvious footballing talent)...for all the crap coming from the boardroom, this squad should be good enough for mid table - with the right players, in the right positions, playing positively, with competition in all places and a youth team who genuinely will get a shot at a starting place.
I preferred DC before all these coaching badges. He and we did far better without them.
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Post by axegas on Dec 14, 2018 0:23:00 GMT
Plenty of knee-jerk reactions on here, perhaps understandably. I can only repeat what I've said before. We've had great times under DC and he'll go down as one our best managers (although we don't have many jostling for that accolade in all honesty) and I truly wish him well. But the wheels have fallen off in the last 18 months. He's not helped himself. Players out of position, dropping good performers for the next match, ignoring the youth set-up, playing defensive formations at home, playing a 'striker' who can't hit a barn door (despite his obvious footballing talent)...for all the crap coming from the boardroom, this squad should be good enough for mid table - with the right players, in the right positions, playing positively, with competition in all places and a youth team who genuinely will get a shot at a starting place. I preferred DC before all these coaching badges. He and we did far better without them.The coaching badges have sweet f**k all to do with any of it. Surprised that people are still trying to use this as an argument. He still persisted with Nichols and James and played people out of position before he got his pro license and he had multiple coaching badges before the summer anyway. Oh and I've never seen DC play defensive at home, occasionally he'd play 5 at the back with the fullbacks getting up the pitch but a trademark of DC was to always throw everything at it to get a result even when things were against us.
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Post by readinggas on Dec 14, 2018 0:42:22 GMT
Plenty of knee-jerk reactions on here, perhaps understandably. I can only repeat what I've said before. We've had great times under DC and he'll go down as one our best managers (although we don't have many jostling for that accolade in all honesty) and I truly wish him well. But the wheels have fallen off in the last 18 months. He's not helped himself. Players out of position, dropping good performers for the next match, ignoring the youth set-up, playing defensive formations at home, playing a 'striker' who can't hit a barn door (despite his obvious footballing talent)...for all the crap coming from the boardroom, this squad should be good enough for mid table - with the right players, in the right positions, playing positively, with competition in all places and a youth team who genuinely will get a shot at a starting place. I preferred DC before all these coaching badges. He and we did far better without them.The coaching badges have sweet f**k all to do with any of it.
Correlation / causation. It just seems to be a thing that sticks in my mind. When he first came here he seemed far less dogmatic and just went with his gut to get the result with the best players for the task on the day. That seems to have gone and we ended-up with people like Luke James and Nicholls being treated as undroppables despite not actually delivering week in, week out.
Either way, there were opportunities to do things differently and he didn't take them. For why, we may never know.
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Post by buckaroo on Dec 14, 2018 0:45:02 GMT
I am astonished; but only because I thought DC was provoking the owners with a deliberate “back me or sack me” ploy and I didn’t think they’d spend the money to sack him.
Nobody else has pointed out that this could be a good sign. That is, if they are prepared to pay him off, they seem to care enough about relegation to spend some money on avoiding it. Whether or not sacking DC is a good idea, it may mean they are prepared to back a new manager in January.
I don’t think they want a budget option, because keeping DC was a cheaper option than paying up his contract and hiring anybody new. The cheapest option was keeping DC regardless of results. Perhaps they think getting relegated will harm the value of their investment [sorry, loans].
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Post by lincsblue on Dec 14, 2018 1:18:06 GMT
Spend what money though?? We must be right up near our FFP allowance, so unable to spend.
We will go down this season
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Post by axegas on Dec 14, 2018 1:26:36 GMT
The coaching badges have sweet f**k all to do with any of it.
Correlation / causation. It just seems to be a thing that sticks in my mind. When he first came here he seemed far less dogmatic and just went with his gut to get the result with the best players for the task on the day. That seems to have gone and we ended-up with people like Luke James and Nicholls being treated as undroppables despite not actually delivering week in, week out.
Either way, there were opportunities to do things differently and he didn't take them. For why, we may never know.
I'll tell you why he decided to persevere with James and Nichols so much, it was because when he initially brought Matty Taylor, It took a fair bit of time for him to start scoring and play at his best. I can't remember off the top of my head but I think it took him 10+ games to get his first goal. He persevered with Taylor and as a result we saw the best of him, had the fans logic been used and we dropped him after 6-7 games, we wouldn't have gained the goals to fuel us to two promotions. When Nichols and James first arrived at the club, they both had decent goalscoring records and DC genuinely believed he could get the best out of them like he had done with Taylor. James was found out pretty quickly and the only reason Nichols is in the team now is that we lack a decent alternative and in truth he is playing quite well. DC for me never lost his dogmatism, it just slowly started not to be reflected in his teams after players departed and their replacements were found lacking in grit and resolve. Like I said, I don't think the coaching badges has anything to do with it but I get your point. We'll just agree to disagree.
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Post by pirate on Dec 14, 2018 3:15:45 GMT
Spend what money though?? We must be right up near our FFP allowance, so unable to spend. We will go down this season I don't know how many times I have to post this on the forum, but there are easy ways around the FFP allowance in Leagues One and Two, if the willingness is there. "The FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity" www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 3:20:17 GMT
Spend what money though?? We must be right up near our FFP allowance, so unable to spend. We will go down this season I don't know how many times I have to post this on the forum, but there are easy ways around the FFP allowance in Leagues One and Two, if the willingness is there. "The FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity" www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.phpExcept its also been said that the owners will not go down that route,as wael said its not good business practise in his view.
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Post by Marshy on Dec 14, 2018 3:22:21 GMT
I don't know how many times I have to post this on the forum, but there are easy ways around the FFP allowance in Leagues One and Two, if the willingness is there. "The FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity" www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.phpExcept its also been said that the owners will not go down that route,as wael said its not good business practise in his view. Tight bastards! See ya!!
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Post by pirate on Dec 14, 2018 3:32:03 GMT
I don't know how many times I have to post this on the forum, but there are easy ways around the FFP allowance in Leagues One and Two, if the willingness is there. "The FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity" www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.phpExcept its also been said that the owners will not go down that route,as wael said its not good business practise in his view. Needs must and all that. It might not be good business practice, but neither is getting relegated to the basement division and all that comes with that. I'd certainly rather spend 500k-£1mil in this window and give myself the best chance of staying up rather than plodding along spouting the 'evolution not revolution' and 'best business practice' lines. We need good players to help us stay up and the reality is they cost good money. How much would we lose getting relegated? Let's give ourselves the best possible chance of staying up by backing the new manager in the window!
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Post by pepsi on Dec 14, 2018 10:30:00 GMT
Don’t see how anyone can be shocked or stunned after Saturdays post match interview.Totally gutted for DC after all he’s done for this club. Yeah, to be fair, no matter what you think about DC, and I love him, those sort of interviews are often a sign that the plot is being lost, to some degree. Can someone post the link for Saturday’s interview? Is it on YouTube or something as I’m not in the country
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 14, 2018 10:33:18 GMT
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 14, 2018 10:51:42 GMT
Just realised it is the thirteenth and I am not superstitious but instead of being unlucky it is certainly a lucky day for the club Deactivate.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Dec 14, 2018 10:59:39 GMT
Weird really. No one is ever bigger than the football club but it felt like DC was the football club. Will never get my head around the decision. I just wish there was a way of letting DC know how the majority of us feel about it. How do you know it is a majority? This is a small number on here compared to the 8 thousand who have been bored stiff this season Are you ok? If you cannot see what the VAST majority think of this decision then I do wonder what on earth you are reading on here?! Very very obvious that almost the entirety of this clubs fan base wanted DC to stay.
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Post by cagastrophy on Dec 14, 2018 11:03:56 GMT
OK, so I am totally watered off with Clarke leaving and it feels a bit like a breakup, it just feels like there's something missing, but some sick depraved part of me is a bit excited at the prospect of a new manager...
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