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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 0:53:56 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised by some of the comments Coughlan made. Stood behind the bench during the Burton game and, sad to say, was not impressed with Coughlan at all. The man has passion, that's without question, but some of his antics were a bit on the silly side of things. His behavior didn't suggest a manager who is calm and in control and I wonder how some of that translates to the players. None of us are in the dressing room, that's fair enough, but I do wonder whether longer-term Coughlan's energizer bunny style on the touchline will become a bit grating? There were two moment which really stood out for me. The first was after Tom Lockyer put another long ball forward which went out of play. The crowd groaned and Coughlan threw his hands up, turned to the crowd and said "he's a Welsh international, what can I do about that?" which seemed like a weird statement for a coach to make. The other moment was a bizarre point whereby, shortly before bringing Nichols on late, Coughlan paced backwards and forwards for 30 seconds or a minute talking to himself and saying (loud enough to be audible) "should I risk it and gamble? should i risk it?" Again he just didn't gives the impress of somebody with a clear head or the decisiveness needed for a team in a relegation scrap. I just can't imagine most other managers behaving like that though maybe I'm wrong, who knows? My post seems like a hatchet job on Coughlan. It's not supposed to be because results have been decent overall, though we're showing signs of slipping away again. Just wanted to share my observations from seeing him up close. He didnt bring nichols on.
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Post by kylegas on Jan 22, 2019 2:13:44 GMT
I loved it tbh, f**k um half of them gotta go and they should feel a bit of fear as to whether it’s them or not, I didn’t want GC to get the job but I took great pleasure in listening to him tell it straight about that sh** squad
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 8:28:59 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised by some of the comments Coughlan made. Stood behind the bench during the Burton game and, sad to say, was not impressed with Coughlan at all. The man has passion, that's without question, but some of his antics were a bit on the silly side of things. His behavior didn't suggest a manager who is calm and in control and I wonder how some of that translates to the players. None of us are in the dressing room, that's fair enough, but I do wonder whether longer-term Coughlan's energizer bunny style on the touchline will become a bit grating? There were two moment which really stood out for me. The first was after Tom Lockyer put another long ball forward which went out of play. The crowd groaned and Coughlan threw his hands up, turned to the crowd and said "he's a Welsh international, what can I do about that?" which seemed like a weird statement for a coach to make. The other moment was a bizarre point whereby, shortly before bringing Nichols on late, Coughlan paced backwards and forwards for 30 seconds or a minute talking to himself and saying (loud enough to be audible) "should I risk it and gamble? should i risk it?" Again he just didn't gives the impress of somebody with a clear head or the decisiveness needed for a team in a relegation scrap. I just can't imagine most other managers behaving like that though maybe I'm wrong, who knows? My post seems like a hatchet job on Coughlan. It's not supposed to be because results have been decent overall, though we're showing signs of slipping away again. Just wanted to share my observations from seeing him up close. He didnt bring nichols on. Who did then, Paul Daniels?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2019 8:56:32 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised by some of the comments Coughlan made. Stood behind the bench during the Burton game and, sad to say, was not impressed with Coughlan at all. The man has passion, that's without question, but some of his antics were a bit on the silly side of things. His behavior didn't suggest a manager who is calm and in control and I wonder how some of that translates to the players. None of us are in the dressing room, that's fair enough, but I do wonder whether longer-term Coughlan's energizer bunny style on the touchline will become a bit grating? There were two moment which really stood out for me. The first was after Tom Lockyer put another long ball forward which went out of play. The crowd groaned and Coughlan threw his hands up, turned to the crowd and said "he's a Welsh international, what can I do about that?" which seemed like a weird statement for a coach to make. The other moment was a bizarre point whereby, shortly before bringing Nichols on late, Coughlan paced backwards and forwards for 30 seconds or a minute talking to himself and saying (loud enough to be audible) "should I risk it and gamble? should i risk it?" Again he just didn't gives the impress of somebody with a clear head or the decisiveness needed for a team in a relegation scrap. I just can't imagine most other managers behaving like that though maybe I'm wrong, who knows? My post seems like a hatchet job on Coughlan. It's not supposed to be because results have been decent overall, though we're showing signs of slipping away again. Just wanted to share my observations from seeing him up close. He didnt bring nichols on. Sounds to me like the OP wasn't even at the game as GC brought on 3 subs in one go and Nichols wasn't one of them, there was no let sub. The Locks comments are just what most of us say when he does the same thing! Good attempt at an hatchet job but it looks to have failed miserably!
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Post by scoobydoogas on Jan 22, 2019 9:15:03 GMT
He didnt bring nichols on. Sounds to me like the OP wasn't even at the game as GC brought on 3 subs in one go and Nichols wasn't one of them, there was no let sub. The Locks comments are just what most of us say when he does the same thing! Good attempt at an hatchet job but it looks to have failed miserably! Isn't theduke talking about the Burton game, as stated in his post? Nichols was brought on in the 85th minute. I can't see anywhere that he was talking about the Wycombe game when, indeed, 3 subs were made at the same time (and Nichols wasn't one of them)!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 10:24:26 GMT
Sounds to me like the OP wasn't even at the game as GC brought on 3 subs in one go and Nichols wasn't one of them, there was no let sub. The Locks comments are just what most of us say when he does the same thing! Good attempt at an hatchet job but it looks to have failed miserably! Isn't theduke talking about the Burton game, as stated in his post? Nichols was brought on in the 85th minute. I can't see anywhere that he was talking about the Wycombe game when, indeed, 3 subs were made at the same time (and Nichols wasn't one of them)!! Well spotted.i was so focused on the wycombe game i didn't notice he was talking about the burton match.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 10:25:35 GMT
He didnt bring nichols on. Who did then, Paul Daniels? Well a magician might be what we need to stay in league one.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2019 10:29:29 GMT
Isn't theduke talking about the Burton game, as stated in his post? Nichols was brought on in the 85th minute. I can't see anywhere that he was talking about the Wycombe game when, indeed, 3 subs were made at the same time (and Nichols wasn't one of them)!! Well spotted.i was so focused on the wycombe game i didn't notice he was talking about the burton match. Yep well spotted, although I didn't realise Locks passing was just as poor in that game, still sounds like nonsense as I doubt putting Nichol on was a gamble as that game was always going to be a draw.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 10:56:22 GMT
He didnt bring nichols on. Sounds to me like the OP wasn't even at the game as GC brought on 3 subs in one go and Nichols wasn't one of them, there was no let sub. The Locks comments are just what most of us say when he does the same thing! Good attempt at an hatchet job but it looks to have failed miserably! Just out of interest mate what percentage of posts do you actually read before you reply
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 22, 2019 11:47:39 GMT
Who did then, Paul Daniels? Well a magician might be what we need to stay in league one. Aye, but don’t let him choose his assistant as there’s no way I want anyone called McGhee at the club!
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Post by theduke on Jan 22, 2019 12:27:44 GMT
Well spotted.i was so focused on the wycombe game i didn't notice he was talking about the burton match. Yep well spotted, although I didn't realise Locks passing was just as poor in that game, still sounds like nonsense as I doubt putting Nichol on was a gamble as that game was always going to be a draw. It's not nonsense, I'm sharing what I and others who were there observed. If Coughlan was calm, collected and decisive then I would have shared that instead. The gamble, as I guess GC saw it, was taking off Kelly and putting on another striker in Nichols in a bid to win the game. I'm not saying he made the wrong decision, I'm sharing my observation of a manager who couldn't make his mind up.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2019 13:47:37 GMT
Yep well spotted, although I didn't realise Locks passing was just as poor in that game, still sounds like nonsense as I doubt putting Nichol on was a gamble as that game was always going to be a draw. It's not nonsense, I'm sharing what I and others who were there observed. If Coughlan was calm, collected and decisive then I would have shared that instead. The gamble, as I guess GC saw it, was taking off Kelly and putting on another striker in Nichols in a bid to win the game. I'm not saying he made the wrong decision, I'm sharing my observation of a manager who couldn't make his mind up. So after one defeat in 6 games you're already on the new managers back, what good is this going to achieve, as if GC fails we'll be relegated.
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Post by theduke on Jan 22, 2019 16:07:22 GMT
So I'm on his back because I shared an observation of indecision?! Did even you read my full post? I said results have been decent. I'm hardly on the manager's back am I?
Of course i want him to succeed, but that doesn't mean i shouldn't be allowed to share concerns or observations having paid attention to what he's like on the touchline.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2019 16:31:47 GMT
So I'm on his back because I shared an observation of indecision?! Did even you read my full post? I said results have been decent. I'm hardly on the manager's back am I? Of course i want him to succeed, but that doesn't mean i shouldn't be allowed to share concerns or observations having paid attention to what he's like on the touchline. "sad to say, was not impressed with Coughlan at all"
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Post by rosssgb on Jan 22, 2019 18:17:41 GMT
No problem with what GC said apart from the comments about this group of players driving Darrel ‘absolutely nuts’ or something similar, and how he won’t let them do the same to him. Think that was very unprofessional to come out and say publicly and should’ve been kept behind closed doors and between the two of them.
From that comment alone we can tell we have a big player power problem in this squad, with influential players like Lines and O.Clarke, add to that the bad eggs added over recent windows Payne and Smith.
Losing characters such as Ellis and Bodin and bringing in seemingly passive older pros like Rodman and Upson. Realistically would they care if we went down? Probably not. Doubt it would effect their wages.
Dread to think what the dressing room would be like without leaders such as Mans, Coughlan and Craig. If they went with DC, with owners happy to go for the cheap option 24/7, we’d have probably ended up with Lines as player manager.
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Post by theduke on Jan 22, 2019 18:25:26 GMT
So I'm on his back because I shared an observation of indecision?! Did even you read my full post? I said results have been decent. I'm hardly on the manager's back am I? Of course i want him to succeed, but that doesn't mean i shouldn't be allowed to share concerns or observations having paid attention to what he's like on the touchline. "sad to say, was not impressed with Coughlan at all" Yes, for the reasons stated. I'm still behind the man and want him to drag us out of the mire. That doesn't mean I'm not going to call him out on something if I see it with my own two eyes. He doesn't have anywhere near enough credit in the bank to escape any criticism whatsoever now does he?
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Post by aghast on Jan 22, 2019 18:27:53 GMT
Everyone seems to be assuming that the comment (about the players driving DC bonkers) is evidence of some faction and/or power struggle.
There was no hint of this until the recent good run stalled.
I think people might be jumping to conclusions here.
It's just as likely (in fact more likely) that the players drove DC bonkers by consistently being crap, and GC said he wasn't going to let it happen to him; ie they shape up or ship out.
I love a conspiracy as much as anyone, but there's no evidence for a player rebellion.
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