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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 8:24:22 GMT
Some things are more important than money. Think you are cutting off your nose to spite your face with that approach. It's called standing by your principles. A line was crossed when U21 teams entered this competition and clearly many people have decided not to stick their head in the sand over and make a stand. The future of lower league competition is more important and any Wembley appearance would be massively tainted.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 23, 2019 8:27:43 GMT
Think you are cutting off your nose to spite your face with that approach. It's called standing by your principles. A line was crossed when U21 teams entered this competition and clearly many people have decided not to stick their head in the sand over and make a stand. The future of lower league competition is more important and any Wembley appearance would be massively tainted. can you explain to me the difference between a Fan & a Supporter ? because i'm not sure which one you are
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 8:35:03 GMT
It's called standing by your principles. A line was crossed when U21 teams entered this competition and clearly many people have decided not to stick their head in the sand over and make a stand. The future of lower league competition is more important and any Wembley appearance would be massively tainted. can you explain to me the difference between a Fan & a Supporter ? because i'm not sure which one you are Very good Henbury. A supporter in my book is someone who contributes to the club and has the long term interest of it at heart. A fan is an admirer without that commitment.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 23, 2019 8:38:11 GMT
can you explain to me the difference between a Fan & a Supporter ? because i'm not sure which one you are Very good Henbury. A supporter in my book is someone who contributes to the club and has the long term interest of it at heart. A fan is an admirer without that commitment. Not sure which one you are as you are not contributing to the club in its hour of need in a financial way but you want to support the club under your own terms when it suits you
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2019 8:41:07 GMT
The classic I can't make a difference approach! If the final was poorly attended with a well coordinated protest on social media which named and shamed owners and the football league I think you'd see owners vote differently going forwards. However, if people continue to support the competition then the lady gardens at the FA will continue to try and ruin the football league in pursuit of money and with no resistance owners will be bought off. Just like those who support it on the basis of the prize money have been bought off this year. The football league have said they want to make it 5 divisions, but they have also said that will no longer consider B teams to make up the number's. That they will use national League teams to make up the difference. All clubs are against them joining the league, this rubbish trophy is different and I actually think it's a good thing. Gives us extra games to try our own development player's. Think many forget how bad this tournament was in the first place. The league is different, we don't want it changed. Most clubs know that, which is why they all voted no. The vote was not even close. So whether fans turn up in this or not, has no bearing on the league. There is a big difference to them being in a rubbish trophy, to messing up the league's history. Not sure how you can link them to be honest. The bigger worry is championship clubs quitting to make a Prem B. Pretty sure that's also been kicked into touch.
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Post by gasforeverman on Jan 23, 2019 8:41:25 GMT
Not attending games make no real difference. The prem wants in and money talks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 8:55:15 GMT
Very good Henbury. A supporter in my book is someone who contributes to the club and has the long term interest of it at heart. A fan is an admirer without that commitment. Not sure which one you are as you are not contributing to the club in its hour of need in a financial way but you want to support the club under your own terms when it suits you Either that or I've been a season ticket holder every season for decades, volunteered my time for nothing to help the club on multiple occasions and have travelled up and down the land to support the club. The idea of missing a home game wouldn't have registered with before the introduction of U21 teams. What makes you think this is our hour of need? Utter nonsense. On the subject of things that won't make the slightest bit of difference is the few quid you handed over last night. I hate this competition and I wish we didn't have to compete in it. The introduction of U21 crossed a line and goes against everything which makes lower league football so special in his country.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 23, 2019 9:04:09 GMT
Not sure which one you are as you are not contributing to the club in its hour of need in a financial way but you want to support the club under your own terms when it suits you Either that or I've been a season ticket holder every season for decades, volunteered my time for nothing to help the club on multiple occasions and have travelled up and down the land to support the club. The idea of missing a home game wouldn't have registered with before the introduction of U21 teams. What makes you think this is our hour of need? Utter nonsense. On the subject of things that won't make the slightest bit of difference is the few quid you handed over last night. I hate this competition and I wish we didn't have to compete in it. The introduction of U21 crossed a line and goes against everything which makes lower league football so special in his country. i fully respect your contribution to Rovers over the decades as it fully eclipses my 53 years or so of supporting Rovers, but Rovers are at a turning point in the season and i feel support is needed more than ever to help keeping us from the drop. Last night was possibly the first game i've watched this season that the long ball game has not been used and was very enjoyable to watch the silky Skills of Nichols, THD and Ollie Clarke used to the full. As a spectacle to watch is was excellent and i feel sorry for you as a "True" gashead you missed it because of your hatred of something that may never happen.
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 23, 2019 9:09:22 GMT
One of my everlasting football memories was signing up for the T.A. in Putney and upon leaving grabbed a pint in a pub near Putney Station. It was full of Rovers fans who were playing Fulham in a cup. The volume of fans was impressive even for a Chelsea fan. The Rovers fans were so friendly and vocal. I didn’t even know where Bristol was. I knew Bristol made good music. I checked the news later and Rovers won. Was happy for those fans. Years later I ended up living in Bristol and became a season ticket holder and now love the Gas more than my childhood team. It’s important if Rovers make the final fans travel in numbers and make Rovers fans of the future coz you never know the impression you can make. Altenatively, travelled to watch my mates team Brighton play Bristol City in 1987 and remember the sh** fans being absolute lady gardens. UTG Didn't realise you were once a STAB what was the unit in Putney? After my regular service I joined the TA in Horfield; once I got that out of my system I bought a season ticket for the Mem - UTG
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Post by tommym9 on Jan 23, 2019 9:28:36 GMT
The rules have changed since then. You don't have to play as many and you can play any keeper. Think you only have to play 5 that are classed as first team. There are more ways that they are classed as first team players now. You don't have to have played in the last game etc. It is a little bit more flexible this season, but we still can't send out our youngsters like we used to be able to in the JPT days Meanwhile players like Charlie Adam can play for the prem teams under 23s. How is that nurturing youth talent and helping the England squad?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 23, 2019 9:29:55 GMT
The football league have said they want to make it 5 divisions, but they have also said that will no longer consider B teams to make up the number's. That they will use national League teams to make up the difference. All clubs are against them joining the league, this rubbish trophy is different and I actually think it's a good thing. Gives us extra games to try our own development player's. Think many forget how bad this tournament was in the first place. The league is different, we don't want it changed. Most clubs know that, which is why they all voted no. The vote was not even close. So whether fans turn up in this or not, has no bearing on the league. There is a big difference to them being in a rubbish trophy, to messing up the league's history. Not sure how you can link them to be honest. The bigger worry is championship clubs quitting to make a Prem B. Pretty sure that's also been kicked into touch. Might have been. Just remember reading about it again, when they said they were no longer looking at letting B teams in. Wouldn't be surprised if it's been scrapped again. If championship clubs leave to form a Prem 2, wouldn't be surprised if it's back on though. Especially if they reduce the teams in the Prem 2. Will need a reshuffle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 9:31:48 GMT
Yeah I do remember, I was there with 15 mates causing fecking meyhem in central London! Where was you?! Doing the fu.king same.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 23, 2019 9:34:54 GMT
The rules have changed since then. You don't have to play as many and you can play any keeper. Think you only have to play 5 that are classed as first team. There are more ways that they are classed as first team players now. You don't have to have played in the last game etc. It is a little bit more flexible this season, but we still can't send out our youngsters like we used to be able to in the JPT days Meanwhile players like Charlie Adam can play for the prem teams under 23s. How is that nurturing youth talent and helping the England squad? You can play 6 now. The fines only £1000 anyway isn't it?? The extra money just for taking part, will more than cover that anyway. That's why some teams do just make 11 changes. Can't really play the whole youth team now anyway, as teams have bigger squad now. So need to keep the squad happy as well. Playing with Charlie Adams will obviously help the youth player's. That's why they can play a few. It's obvious they will learn playing with more experienced player's and against them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 9:41:49 GMT
Not attending games make no real difference. The prem wants in and money talks. This is it in a nutshell - the Prem don't give a toss about poor attendances, and will continue to throw money at it. A lot of clubs find themselves in a perilous position regarding finances, and will continue to vote for it. People are free to do as they wish, don't let the Prem divide the fanbase too!
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Post by markczgas on Jan 23, 2019 9:47:36 GMT
Not attending games make no real difference. The prem wants in and money talks. This is it in a nutshell - the Prem don't give a toss about poor attendances, and will continue to throw money at it. A lot of clubs find themselves in a perilous position regarding finances, and will continue to vote for it. People are free to do as they wish, don't let the Prem divide the fanbase too! Crowds last night. Sunderland : 14,679 (about a 1/3 of normal gate to watch U21 team !!) Pompey ; 3,313 (about 1/6 ......) Gas : 2016 (about 1/4 .......) Bury : 1,238 (about 1/3 .......)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 9:57:34 GMT
This is it in a nutshell - the Prem don't give a toss about poor attendances, and will continue to throw money at it. A lot of clubs find themselves in a perilous position regarding finances, and will continue to vote for it. People are free to do as they wish, don't let the Prem divide the fanbase too! Crowds last night. Sunderland : 14,679 (about a 1/3 of normal gate to watch U21 team !!) Pompey ; 3,313 (about 1/6 ......) Gas : 2016 (about 1/4 .......) Bury : 1,238 (about 1/3 .......) Sunderland are probably more of a mindset that their own U21's will be eligible in a couple of seasons! I would prefer that there were virtually 0 in attendance when the U21's played, and support the other games as usual, if you wish.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 10:01:39 GMT
Why should there be a protest outside the ground or anywhere else. It's an individual decision, go if you want or don't go. F.ck all to do with anyone else.
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Post by orgasmic on Jan 23, 2019 10:04:36 GMT
The classic I can't make a difference approach! If the final was poorly attended with a well coordinated protest on social media which named and shamed owners and the football league I think you'd see owners vote differently going forwards. However, if people continue to support the competition then the lady gardens at the FA will continue to try and ruin the football league in pursuit of money and with no resistance owners will be bought off. Just like those who support it on the basis of the prize money have been bought off this year. The football league have said they want to make it 5 divisions, but they have also said that will no longer consider B teams to make up the number's. That they will use national League teams to make up the difference. All clubs are against them joining the league, this rubbish trophy is different and I actually think it's a good thing. Gives us extra games to try our own development player's. Think many forget how bad this tournament was in the first place. The league is different, we don't want it changed. Most clubs know that, which is why they all voted no. The vote was not even close. So whether fans turn up in this or not, has no bearing on the league. There is a big difference to them being in a rubbish trophy, to messing up the league's history. Not sure how you can link them to be honest. The bigger worry is championship clubs quitting to make a Prem B. I disagree and believe they are using this tournament to get people used to the idea before they try again.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 23, 2019 10:23:30 GMT
The football league have said they want to make it 5 divisions, but they have also said that will no longer consider B teams to make up the number's. That they will use national League teams to make up the difference. All clubs are against them joining the league, this rubbish trophy is different and I actually think it's a good thing. Gives us extra games to try our own development player's. Think many forget how bad this tournament was in the first place. The league is different, we don't want it changed. Most clubs know that, which is why they all voted no. The vote was not even close. So whether fans turn up in this or not, has no bearing on the league. There is a big difference to them being in a rubbish trophy, to messing up the league's history. Not sure how you can link them to be honest. The bigger worry is championship clubs quitting to make a Prem B. I disagree and believe they are using this tournament to get people used to the idea before they try again. It's never going to get people used to the idea is it. Them joining the league will never be a good thing. Can't see how this will change there opinion.
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 23, 2019 10:38:57 GMT
Talk sport crowing about a potential Sunderland v pompey final # conspiracy theory 😁
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