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Post by warwickgas on Apr 14, 2019 8:20:31 GMT
That isn't right. About 60% of the squad are out of contract this summer. Didn’t Widdrington say 90% were out of contract this Summer?
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 14, 2019 8:20:56 GMT
That isn't right. About 60% of the squad are out of contract this summer. As I said, we will struggle to move on players who are still under contract, so I hope its far more than just those three who are out of contract!
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Post by pirate on Apr 14, 2019 8:25:19 GMT
That isn't right. About 60% of the squad are out of contract this summer. Didn’t Widdrington say 90% were out of contract this Summer? Actually I think you might be right. Said at the Football Index event.
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Post by bluestone on Apr 14, 2019 11:42:01 GMT
I would like to see us keep all of the players that have been regulars under GC.
If we survive (fingers crossed!) then that core group will have achieved something amazing and will have built up a fantastic sense of togetherness, understanding and team spirit. It takes time to create that and it's not something we should risk losing imo. After having had their backs against the wall since DC left they would deserve the chance to be part of the next chapter under GC. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water!
All loans can go back except we should try and sign Bonham.
I would then release:
Smith Slocombe Leadbitter Lines (with real sadness in my heart!) Bennett Matthews Mensah Payne (good riddance!)
New signings: Keeper (as back up to Bonham) Left winger Right winger CAM Striker Right full back
I also think next season GC should make a conscious effort to try and bring through the following development squad players:
Deon Moore Kilgour Russe
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Post by neilv93 on Apr 14, 2019 12:09:02 GMT
I would like to see us keep all of the players that have been regulars under GC. If we survive (fingers crossed!) then that core group will have achieved something amazing and will have built up a fantastic sense of togetherness, understanding and team spirit. It takes time to create that and it's not something we should risk losing imo. After having had their backs against the wall since DC left they would deserve the chance to be part of the next chapter under GC. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water! All loans can go back except we should try and sign Bonham. I would then release: Smith Slocombe Leadbitter Lines (with real sadness in my heart!) Bennett Matthews Mensah Payne (good riddance!)New signings: Keeper (as back up to Bonham) Left winger Right winger CAM Striker Right full back I also think next season GC should make a conscious effort to try and bring through the following development squad players: Deon Moore Kilgour Russe Fairly certain Payne is contracted for next season so we wouldn't be able to just release him. We'd have to sell or mutually terminate.
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Post by bluestone on Apr 14, 2019 13:36:18 GMT
I would like to see us keep all of the players that have been regulars under GC. If we survive (fingers crossed!) then that core group will have achieved something amazing and will have built up a fantastic sense of togetherness, understanding and team spirit. It takes time to create that and it's not something we should risk losing imo. After having had their backs against the wall since DC left they would deserve the chance to be part of the next chapter under GC. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water! All loans can go back except we should try and sign Bonham. I would then release: Smith Slocombe Leadbitter Lines (with real sadness in my heart!) Bennett Matthews Mensah Payne (good riddance!)New signings: Keeper (as back up to Bonham) Left winger Right winger CAM Striker Right full back I also think next season GC should make a conscious effort to try and bring through the following development squad players: Deon Moore Kilgour Russe Fairly certain Payne is contracted for next season so we wouldn't be able to just release him. We'd have to sell or mutually terminate. Ok but tbh I don't care how we do it, just get rid!
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Post by roosty56 on Apr 14, 2019 14:01:09 GMT
I won’t get involved with who should go or who should stay debate ?. That obviously be GC decision to make,but i would like to point out that the board have a major role to play in the coming Summer transfer window,in mine and many others fans opionion is what area of the pitch we fall short,So Whoever GC decide to bring in to strengthen the squad,I just hope the board give him there full support and backing ,to show him and the fans how serious they are in taking this club forward ON the pitch,the fantastic gasheads who turn out in there numbers at least deserve that.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 14, 2019 14:50:31 GMT
I’ve actually said on here we don’t need a clear out as clear outs usually make things worse. What we need to do is resolve the keeper problem, get a quicker more attacking RB, two creative midfielders to create and give us width and a striker. And before we decide on who we need to know where we play, League 1 or 2. Once that’s resolved I’m sure GC will recruit. UTG! You don't want a clear out but then go on to name 5 positions from 11 that need addressing in the summer! Looks like a clear out to me!! Semantics over words I suppose. A clear out says to me getting rid of 8/9/10 players and I’m not sure about the state of contract for most so I’m not sure about who we can get rid of. I just know those positions are the ones that need strengthening. And when its said we need a “clear out” it sounds as if it’s a reaction and people just being p***** off with stuff rather than a reflection on what we need. I’d prefer GC to decide upon the positions we need to strengthen and then go about doing it. A “clear out” says to me let’s get rid of these players and then recruit and knowing how we’ve recruited in the past we’ll fail to get out targets early on and then panic in August. Then we end up having a weaker squad than when the season ended. But in the end it depends on how you see clear out and how you see strengthening. UTG!
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Post by baggins on Apr 14, 2019 15:02:15 GMT
Squad clear out. Great, where's the money coming from to replace them 'cause we sure as hell won't get much for what we're getting rid of.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Apr 14, 2019 15:16:01 GMT
The thing I notice immediately about the OP is that the players listed to keep and re-sign was the team that beat Bradford yesterday. We were all over the place and barely deserved any better than a draw against the bottom side. So, the players to sell are bench warmers and reserves. The money we bring in will be peanuts if anything at all. We cannot continue with the same starting squad - we have to improve it. So that means some of the current starting line up have to drop to the bench and we have to bring in better players. So, my question is - how do we sell bench warmers and reserves and generate enough money to buy decent players that can slot straight into the first team. We've had clowns and cowboys running the club in the past but do we now have a magician in Wael?
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 14, 2019 15:30:29 GMT
The thing I notice immediately about the OP is that the players listed to keep and re-sign was the team that beat Bradford yesterday. We were all over the place and barely deserved any better than a draw against the bottom side. So, the players to sell are bench warmers and reserves. The money we bring in will be peanuts if anything at all. We cannot continue with the same starting squad - we have to improve it. So that means some of the current starting line up have to drop to the bench and we have to bring in better players. So, my question is - how do we sell bench warmers and reserves and generate enough money to buy decent players that can slot straight into the first team. We've had clowns and cowboys running the club in the past but do we now have a magician in Wael? Can you name any club outside the top 6 actually buying players? The likes of JCH & Agogo were signed on frees, at a time when it's supposed to be difficult to pick up decent players.I don't get this clamour to have a "clear out" given the present squad who wasted half a season are likely to finish around mid table, GC just needs to get rid of the dead wood and replace them with more players like JCH/Agogo. Plus we have to hope that the owners back him like they backed DC in previous summers with some transfer funds and a decent mid table, or better, budget.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 14, 2019 15:36:14 GMT
The thing I notice immediately about the OP is that the players listed to keep and re-sign was the team that beat Bradford yesterday. We were all over the place and barely deserved any better than a draw against the bottom side. So, the players to sell are bench warmers and reserves. The money we bring in will be peanuts if anything at all. We cannot continue with the same starting squad - we have to improve it. So that means some of the current starting line up have to drop to the bench and we have to bring in better players. So, my question is - how do we sell bench warmers and reserves and generate enough money to buy decent players that can slot straight into the first team. We've had clowns and cowboys running the club in the past but do we now have a magician in Wael? Can you name any club outside the top 6 actually buying players? The likes of JCH & Agogo were signed on frees, at a time when it's supposed to be difficult to pick up decent players.I don't get this clamour to have a "clear out" given the present squad who wasted half a season are likely to finish around mid table, GC just needs to get rid of the dead wood and replace them with more players like JCH/Agogo. Plus we have to hope that the owners back him like they backed DC in previous summers with some transfer funds and a decent mid table, or better, budget. Agogo was £200k.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 18:28:33 GMT
Can you name any club outside the top 6 actually buying players? The likes of JCH & Agogo were signed on frees, at a time when it's supposed to be difficult to pick up decent players.I don't get this clamour to have a "clear out" given the present squad who wasted half a season are likely to finish around mid table, GC just needs to get rid of the dead wood and replace them with more players like JCH/Agogo. Plus we have to hope that the owners back him like they backed DC in previous summers with some transfer funds and a decent mid table, or better, budget. Agogo was £200k. Is this true? We paid over the odds if so, particularly considering we already have players who do what he does.
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Post by pirate on Apr 14, 2019 18:40:10 GMT
Is this true? We paid over the odds if so, particularly considering we already have players who do what he does. He scored quite a few goals for us to be fair.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Apr 14, 2019 18:40:47 GMT
With the clear lack of creativity prevalent in this squad I'd think Bennett is worth a try again next season now he has his confidence back and is scoring again.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 14, 2019 18:44:55 GMT
Is this true? We paid over the odds if so, particularly considering we already have players who do what he does. £110k actually. Thought he was a great bit of business.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 19:02:06 GMT
Is this true? We paid over the odds if so, particularly considering we already have players who do what he does. £110k actually. Thought he was a great bit of business. Is that all we paid, worth it for the Yeovil game alone.
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Post by pirate on Apr 14, 2019 19:09:23 GMT
£110k actually. Thought he was a great bit of business. Is that all we paid, worth it for the Yeovil game alone. The Yeovil display will live long in the memory. Outstanding performance.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 14, 2019 19:35:31 GMT
I have not included most of the prominent youth players. Goalkeepers: Jack Bonham: Keep if we can Alexis Andre Jr: Squad/Loan Adam Smith: Squad (would hate to be in the position where we don’t have a keeper) Defenders: Tareiq Holmes-Dennis: Keep Tom Lockyer: Keep Tony Craig: Keep James Clarke: Keep Joe Partington: Squad/release Michael Kelly: Keep Alfie Kilgour: Keep Midfielders: Ed Upson: Keep Liam Sercombe: Keep Ollie Clarke: Keep Chris Lines: Squad/release Stuart Sinclair: Squad/release Abumere Ogogo: Keep Strikers: Tom Nichols: Keep Jonson Clarke-Harris: Keep Gavin Reilly: Keep Alex Rodman: Keep Aren't you just sitting on the fence with squad/release? Not sure I agree about keeping Smith as he's looked nervous whenever he starts, he really needs to drop down to Div 2 and rebuild his confidence. Strikers wise if we keep all four aren't we back to praying JCH doesn't leave in the summer/keeps scoring next season? Personally I'd try and offload Reilly and try and sign Jakubiak and get another No 10 in, assuming Nichols as a year to go on his contract. Plus you've overlooked the likes of Solcombe, Leadbitter Payne, Bennett, Matthews & Mensah who I assume we should release/try and find them new clubs So departing players are: Smith Release Slocombe Release Leadbitter Release Lines Release Matthews Sell Bennett Sell Mensah Sell/release Payne Sell Reilly Sell Question marks over: Partington Release if out of contract? Sincs Cheap and can play across midfield plus good for moral? Sercs As he already lined up a deal elsewhere??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 21:48:49 GMT
I can see 7 or 8 players being released or made available for transfer. I think rather than recruiting the same number Cogs will look for 4 or 5 better quality. Does not seem want a large squad and smaller squad makes sense if we stich with a Development squad that can be called on for the bench if necessary.n
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