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Post by stuartcampbell on Apr 13, 2019 19:47:03 GMT
In the past couple season it seems like we have a squad clearout every single season, with multiple players joining and multiple leaving. For once I'd like maybe just to let only a couple go and a couple stay.
But that's not going to work this window, I know it's hard to tell but if we say MK Dons, Bury, Mansfield and Lincoln all go up; 3 of 4 of them are staying up next season in my opinion so we need to make sure we're not in and around the relegation zone. So with that in mind, who would you get rid of/keep/loan/sign back: I've decided to include all prominent youth players as well, if you don't have an opinion on them leave a ?.
Everyone's been talking about a squad clearout so what's your opinion?
Goalkeepers:
Jack Bonham:
Alexis Andre Jr:
Adam Smith:
Sam Slocombe:
Defenders:
Daniel Leadbitter:
Tareiq Holmes-Dennis:
Tom Lockyer:
Tony Craig:
James Clarke:
Gabriel Osho (if he's even still here now!):
Joe Partington:
Rollin Menayese:
Michael Kelly:
Alfie Kilgour:
Josh Bailey:
Mohammad Baghdadi:
Midfielders:
Ed Upson:
Liam Sercombe:
Ollie Clarke:
Chris Lines:
Kyle Bennett:
Stuart Sinclair:
Abumere Ogogo:
Sam Matthews:
Ben Morgan:
Cameron Hargreaves:
Zain Walker:
Theo Widdrington:
Lewis Leigh-Gilchrist:
Strikers:
Stefan Payne:
Tom Nichols:
Bernard Mensah:
Alex Jakubiak:
Jonson Clarke-Harris:
Gavin Reilly:
Alex Rodman:
Deon Moore:
Harry Warwick:
I'll start:
Goalkeepers:
Jack Bonham: Try and resign
Alexis Andre Jr: Loan to a Conference or League 2 club, if we can't sell
Adam Smith: Sell
Sam Slocombe: Sell
Defenders:
Daniel Leadbitter: Sell
Tareiq Holmes-Dennis: Keep
Tom Lockyer: Keep
Tony Craig: Keep
James Clarke: Keep
Gabriel Osho (if he's even still here now!): Don't resign
Joe Partington: Sell
Rollin Menayese: Sell
Michael Kelly: Keep
Alfie Kilgour: Keep
Josh Bailey: Loan
Mohammad Baghdadi: Sell
Midfielders:
Ed Upson: Keep
Liam Sercombe: Keep
Ollie Clarke: Keep
Chris Lines: Sell
Kyle Bennett: Keep
Stuart Sinclair: Sell
Abumere Ogogo: Keep
Sam Matthews: Loan to a League 2 club
Ben Morgan: Loan
Cameron Hargreaves: Loan
Zain Walker: Keep
Theo Widdrington: Loan
Lewis Leigh-Gilchrist: Loan
Strikers:
Stefan Payne: Sell!!
Tom Nichols: Keep
Bernard Mensah: Sell
Alex Jakubiak: Don't resign
Jonson Clarke-Harris: Keep!!
Gavin Reilly: Sell
Alex Rodman: Keep
Deon Moore: Loan
Harry Warwick: Loan
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Post by Gas1977 on Apr 13, 2019 19:55:01 GMT
Goalkeepers:
Jack Bonham: try sign
Alexis Andre Jr: Loan
Adam Smith: sell
Sam Slocombe: sell
Defenders:
Daniel Leadbitter: sell
Tareiq Holmes-Dennis: keep
Tom Lockyer: keep
Tony Craig: keep
James Clarke: keep
Gabriel Osho (if he's even still here now!):
Joe Partington: keep
Rollin Menayese: loan
Michael Kelly: keep
Alfie Kilgour: loan to l2 side
Josh Bailey: loan
Mohammad Baghdadi: he’s no longer with us
Midfielders:
Ed Upson: sell
Liam Sercombe: keep
Ollie Clarke: keep
Chris Lines: sell
Kyle Bennett: keep
Stuart Sinclair: sell
Abumere Ogogo: keep
Sam Matthews: loan
Ben Morgan: loan
Cameron Hargreaves: loan
Zain Walker: loan
Theo Widdrington: loan
Lewis Leigh-Gilchrist: loan
Strikers:
Stefan Payne: sell (I will pay for the taxi if needs be)
Tom Nichols: sell
Bernard Mensah: sell
Alex Jakubiak:
Jonson Clarke-Harris: keep
Gavin Reilly: sell
Alex Rodman: keep
Deon Moore: loan
Harry Warwick: loan
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 19:56:01 GMT
Good luck selling anyone who is out of contract!
Agree with much of that but I can't see a conference or league two club taking on Andre and I would also keep Rollin. I would look to offload Bennett if it's correct that he's one of the highest earners at the club
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 13, 2019 19:59:34 GMT
Good luck selling anyone who is out of contract! Good luck selling anyone, except JCH, to be fair. |
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Post by stuartcampbell on Apr 13, 2019 20:00:11 GMT
Goalkeepers: Jack Bonham: try sign Alexis Andre Jr: Loan Adam Smith: sell Sam Slocombe: sell Defenders: Daniel Leadbitter: sell Tareiq Holmes-Dennis: keep Tom Lockyer: keep Tony Craig: keep James Clarke: keep Gabriel Osho (if he's even still here now!): Joe Partington: keep Rollin Menayese: loan Michael Kelly: keep Alfie Kilgour: loan to l2 side Josh Bailey: loan Mohammad Baghdadi: he’s no longer with us Midfielders: Ed Upson: sell Liam Sercombe: keep Ollie Clarke: keep Chris Lines: sell Kyle Bennett: keep Stuart Sinclair: sell Abumere Ogogo: keep Sam Matthews: loan Ben Morgan: loan Cameron Hargreaves: loan Zain Walker: loan Theo Widdrington: loan Lewis Leigh-Gilchrist: loan Strikers: Stefan Payne: sell (I will pay for the taxi if needs be) Tom Nichols: sell Bernard Mensah: sell Alex Jakubiak: Jonson Clarke-Harris: keep Gavin Reilly: sell Alex Rodman: keep Deon Moore: loan Harry Warwick: loan Disagree with Nichols (although he doesn't score much his great linkup with JCH is a massive bonus, and overall I think he's actually been okay this season, 7 assists the last time I checked, if he had 7 goals we'd all be raving to keep him), Upson (I think he's been good under Coughlan, and i'd keep him, think he's just been poor this season), Menayese (realistically will he ever be good enough to play for us? For me, no) and Kilgour (you've said to keep 3 CBs I think! Bit of a dangerous game imo EDIT: Didn't even realise you were probably implying buy a CB). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 20:00:25 GMT
The op seems to know which division we will be playing in next season???
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Post by stuartcampbell on Apr 13, 2019 20:01:22 GMT
Good luck selling anyone who is out of contract! Agree with much of that but I can't see a conference or league two club taking on Andre and I would also keep Rollin. I would look to offload Bennett if it's correct that he's one of the highest earners at the club Sell and release are interchangeable in this case. Plus I don't think Rollin will ever be good enough |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 20:01:56 GMT
The op wants to sell players who are out of contract.
Great business by the club if they can pull that off?
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Post by stuartcampbell on Apr 13, 2019 20:04:37 GMT
The op wants to sell players who are out of contract. Great business by the club if they can pull that off? As I don't know the contract situation, I thought it would be a lot easier to not go through and see which players are out of contract and which aren't. And also let's assume we stay in League 1, I think the majority of people can say with 80% certainty we're staying up. We won't finish in the lowest 4 teams with the likes of Scunthorpe, Southend, Walsall, Bradford, Rochdale, Wimbledon, Accrington, Wycombe around us. We're better than all of them imo |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Apr 13, 2019 20:05:37 GMT
Other than JCH and possibly Locks,I wouldn’t be too disappointed to see the back of any of the current squad. There are some good servants to the club in Sinclair, Clarkex2 and leadbitter but I think this season has shown that we need to freshen things up with some quality. JCH’s goals have papered over some pretty big cracks in the team. Let’s face it, without his goals, many of which were created and scored out of nothing, we would already be preparing for League 2.
Unfortunately, until we move forward off the pitch, I think we’ll be in for a struggle or mid-table mediocrity at best for the foreseeable future.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 20:06:46 GMT
Good luck selling anyone who is out of contract! Agree with much of that but I can't see a conference or league two club taking on Andre and I would also keep Rollin. I would look to offload Bennett if it's correct that he's one of the highest earners at the club Sell and release are interchangeable in this case. Plus I don't think Rollin will ever be good enough I've not seen enough of him to say he's not good enough but he seemed to do ok at Swindon on loan last year, seems a big strong athletic type and will be on low wages so probably (IMO) worth persevering with a little longer. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 13, 2019 20:08:27 GMT
The op wants to sell players who are out of contract. Great business by the club if they can pull that off? As I don't know the contract situation, I thought it would be a lot easier to not go through and see which players are out of contract and which aren't. And also let's assume we stay in League 1, I think the majority of people can say with 80% certainty we're staying up. We won't finish in the lowest 4 teams with the likes of Scunthorpe, Southend, Walsall, Bradford, Rochdale, Wimbledon, Accrington, Wycombe around us. We're better than all of them imo We're at less than 1% to go down on this site, which seems a bit generous, but we'd really have to f**k up from here: projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/league-one/ |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 20:10:17 GMT
Other than JCH and possibly Locks,I wouldn’t be too disappointed to see the back of any of the current squad. There are some good servants to the club in Sinclair, Clarkex2 and leadbitter but I think this season has shown that we need to freshen things up with some quality. JCH’s goals have papered over some pretty big cracks in the team. Let’s face it, without his goals, many of which were created and scored out of nothing, we would already be preparing for League 2. Unfortunately, until we move forward off the pitch, I think we’ll be in for a struggle or mid-table mediocrity at best for the foreseeable future. Blimey, getting rid of over 20 players is more of a massacre than a freshening up! |
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Post by stuartcampbell on Apr 13, 2019 20:11:40 GMT
Sell and release are interchangeable in this case. Plus I don't think Rollin will ever be good enough I've not seen enough of him to say he's not good enough but he seemed to do ok at Swindon on loan last year, seems a big strong athletic type and will be on low wages so probably (IMO) worth persevering with a little longer. Yeah that's true but isn't he doing quite poorly at Aldershot? I'm uneducated on his form there but they seem to be doing awful in the Conference, albeit they were doing so before he and Mensah arrived. Plus I didn't realise he's only 21. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 20:15:01 GMT
The op wants to sell players who are out of contract. Great business by the club if they can pull that off? As I don't know the contract situation, I thought it would be a lot easier to not go through and see which players are out of contract and which aren't. And also let's assume we stay in League 1, I think the majority of people can say with 80% certainty we're staying up. We won't finish in the lowest 4 teams with the likes of Scunthorpe, Southend, Walsall, Bradford, Rochdale, Wimbledon, Accrington, Wycombe around us. We're better than all of them imo Some people never learn. When and more to the point if it is impossible to get relegated i will get curious about lincoln city and co. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 20:17:49 GMT
I've not seen enough of him to say he's not good enough but he seemed to do ok at Swindon on loan last year, seems a big strong athletic type and will be on low wages so probably (IMO) worth persevering with a little longer. Yeah that's true but isn't he doing quite poorly at Aldershot? I'm uneducated on his form there but they seem to be doing awful in the Conference, albeit they were doing so before he and Mensah arrived. Plus I didn't realise he's only 21. I'm as much in the dark as you about his form at Aldershot. The club updates on our loanees probably doesn't give much insight to how they are doing. Pirate will no doubt be better informed and provide a good view on his potential? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 13, 2019 20:18:04 GMT
Just picking out of two of the OP's decisions but why would anybody suggest to keep Bennett, on a rumoured £4K p.w. but make no attempts to re-sign Jakubiak who would probably take £2K p.w.?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 13, 2019 20:22:51 GMT
Jack Bonham
Alexis Andre Jr
Tareiq Holmes-Dennis
Tom Lockyer
James Clarke
Rollin Menayese
Michael Kelly
Alfie Kilgour
Liam Sercombe
Ollie Clarke
Abumere Ogogo
Jonson Clarke-Harris
Gavin Reilly
Deon Moore
The players I'd like to see here again next season.
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Post by pirate on Apr 13, 2019 20:23:45 GMT
Yeah that's true but isn't he doing quite poorly at Aldershot? I'm uneducated on his form there but they seem to be doing awful in the Conference, albeit they were doing so before he and Mensah arrived. Plus I didn't realise he's only 21. I'm as much in the dark as you about his form at Aldershot. The club updates on our loanees probably doesn't give much insight to how they are doing. Pirate will no doubt be better informed and provide a good view on his potential? I haven't really seen Rollin play in ages, but he certainly looked a good prospect at W-s-M and was definitely worth a deal at the time. How much he has improved since then is hard to tell as I haven't seen much of him, but at the age of 21 he's probably worth another year. |
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Post by wilkimania on Apr 13, 2019 20:30:54 GMT
For the sakes of this I'll presume that we're still in league one next season and that anybody I want to keep/go will do so.
Goalkeepers:
Jack Bonham: Keep
Alexis Andre Jr: Let Go
Adam Smith: Let Go
Sam Slocombe: Let Go
Defenders:
Daniel Leadbitter: Let Go
Tareiq Holmes-Dennis: Keep
Tom Lockyer: Keep
Tony Craig: Keep
James Clarke: Keep
Gabriel Osho (if he's even still here now!): Let Go
Joe Partington: Let Go
Rollin Menayese: Loan
Michael Kelly: Keep
Alfie Kilgour: Keep
Josh Bailey: Never seen
Mohammad Baghdadi: Already Gone
Midfielders:
Ed Upson: Keep
Liam Sercombe: If the rumours on the terrace today are accurate then he's already agreed to go elsewhere. Undecided.
Ollie Clarke: Let Go
Chris Lines: Let Go
Kyle Bennett: Let Go
Stuart Sinclair: If he's interested in moving into the community department stuff once he's done with his playing career then I'd probably offer him another year as a squad player. Otherwise Let Go.
Abumere Ogogo: Keep
Sam Matthews: Loan out
Ben Morgan: Never Seen
Cameron Hargreaves: Never Seen
Zain Walker: Never Seen
Theo Widdrington: Never Seen
Lewis Leigh-Gilchrist: Never Seen
Strikers:
Stefan Payne: Let Go
Tom Nichols: Keep. If we're going to have a midfielder at the top of the diamond not bother tracking back then I'd rather play Nichols there. One of the best technical players we have
Bernard Mensah: Let Go
Alex Jakubiak: Let Go
Jonson Clarke-Harris: Keep
Gavin Reilly: Based on what we've seen so far I'll go let go, but I wonder if he's one of those where it takes him a year to adapt to the league and then kicks on so just about Keep.
Alex Rodman: Keep. Add some wingers. For the love of God give this man some one on the other side.
Deon Moore: Not Seen
Harry Warwick: Not seen
A few of the Let Go, I'd be fine with if they ended up as a squad player but ideally I'd move them on.
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