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Post by pirate on Jul 10, 2019 10:45:28 GMT
Why do signings have to be big name players? People seem obsessed by signing names and everyone always seem to look at other clubs in envy. Names don’t make a team. There were plenty of people last season purring over players that others teams had signed and those same teams had no better seasons than ours. I don’t care about marquee signings just aslong as the signings we are making are well thought out and improve the team based on what the manger wants to achieve. We haven’t kicked a ball yet in the new season and the transfer window isn’t shut, let’s just try to get behind the team and new signings and judge them on their ability during the season not the name on their back Tell that to the manager who said he wants "marquee signings, big players, big names."
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Post by Jomo on Jul 10, 2019 10:45:52 GMT
Agree with those that say we're at our best when signing young and hungry players on the way up. Granted when we signed Wally he was superb for us, but I also remember signing lots of supposedly star players on paper and then turning out to be average at best. Anyinsah, Riordan, Gill were all players we got excited about and then were mostly ineffective. Whereas Taylor, Bodin and JCH were fairly low-key signings that turned out very well for us.
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Post by pirate on Jul 10, 2019 10:48:17 GMT
Agree with those that say we're at our best when signing young and hungry players on the way up. Granted when we signed Wally he was superb for us, but I also remember signing lots of supposedly star players on paper and then turning out to be average at best. Anyinsah, Riordan, Gill were all players we got excited about and then were mostly ineffective. Whereas Taylor, Bodin and JCH were fairly low-key signings that turned out very well for us. I don't remember anyone getting excited about Anyinsah and Gill...and if they did, they obviously haven't got a clue what they are talking about.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 10, 2019 10:49:44 GMT
Agree with those that say we're at our best when signing young and hungry players on the way up. Granted when we signed Wally he was superb for us, but I also remember signing lots of supposedly star players on paper and then turning out to be average at best. Anyinsah, Riordan, Gill were all players we got excited about and then were mostly ineffective. Whereas Taylor, Bodin and JCH were fairly low-key signings that turned out very well for us. I don't remember anyone getting excited about Anyinsah and Gill...and if they did, they obviously haven't got a clue what they are talking about. But well got excited about Tom Nichols....
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Post by eastgas on Jul 10, 2019 10:51:38 GMT
Why do signings have to be big name players? People seem obsessed by signing names and everyone always seem to look at other clubs in envy. Names don’t make a team. There were plenty of people last season purring over players that others teams had signed and those same teams had no better seasons than ours. I don’t care about marquee signings just aslong as the signings we are making are well thought out and improve the team based on what the manger wants to achieve. We haven’t kicked a ball yet in the new season and the transfer window isn’t shut, let’s just try to get behind the team and new signings and judge them on their ability during the season not the name on their back Tell that to the manager who said he wants "marquee signings, big players, big names." Did he say wants or is talking to? We may still get one or two marquee signings, that’s not the point I was making, I was saying I don’t know why people are disappointed with a signing because he doesn’t come with a big name attached. You recommend many players on here and many of those aren’t well know names but you would be delighted if we signed them. A club can be successful without having star names is all I’m saying
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Post by Jomo on Jul 10, 2019 10:53:13 GMT
Agree with those that say we're at our best when signing young and hungry players on the way up. Granted when we signed Wally he was superb for us, but I also remember signing lots of supposedly star players on paper and then turning out to be average at best. Anyinsah, Riordan, Gill were all players we got excited about and then were mostly ineffective. Whereas Taylor, Bodin and JCH were fairly low-key signings that turned out very well for us. I don't remember anyone getting excited about Anyinsah and Gill...and if they did, they obviously haven't got a clue what they are talking about. Agree to disagree then because I distinctly remember lots of people being excited by those. Gill was signed not long before by Norwich after doing very well at Exeter and was hit with injuries while at Norwich. Anyinsah had been scoring plenty of goals from wide at Charlton and Carlisle before he joined us and was equally exciting as a signing. I for one was excited and I'm not ashamed to admit that and if that makes me "clueless" in your words then you've just gone down in my estimation. You may be a good judge on players and I respect your opinion, but your opinion isn't the be all and end all on players.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 11:01:12 GMT
Any progress with these lads that Cogs mentioned? "I'm in for one or two, what people would call marquee signings, big players, big names." Does Marky Little not count?
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 10, 2019 11:01:29 GMT
People who like a ''marquee'' signing don't know how to react positively if it's a name they don't know.
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 10, 2019 11:02:19 GMT
Why do signings have to be big name players? People seem obsessed by signing names and everyone always seem to look at other clubs in envy. Names don’t make a team. There were plenty of people last season purring over players that others teams had signed and those same teams had no better seasons than ours. I don’t care about marquee signings just aslong as the signings we are making are well thought out and improve the team based on what the manger wants to achieve. We haven’t kicked a ball yet in the new season and the transfer window isn’t shut, let’s just try to get behind the team and new signings and judge them on their ability during the season not the name on their back Tell that to the manager who said he wants "marquee signings, big players, big names." He may want "Marquee signings" "Big players" "Big names" but we dont always get what we want do we? There's other factors involved too, the player he may "Want", may not "Want" to come here, or may "Want" more incentives or money than we have got or can afford. How many of the players that you post videos of on the wishlist thread are "Marquee", "Big players or names"? The window is still open for a while aswell. I'm actually hugely impressed with GC's transfer business since he's been in charge.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 11:04:45 GMT
What’s the obsession with big names, big signings? We’re BRFC and we’re at our best buying young hungry players eager to do well. No reason why they can’t do as well as others. Stay within our budget and improve the team. Don’t want to risk our future on being a Bolton, Bury or Notts Co, signing anything that moves on the strength of being a big name. Good to have a young striker coming in eager to improve. UTG! I guess most would like someone permanent and preferably established - perhaps 'big name' is the wrong terminology and implies big time Charlie? We've signed potential and young loanees in recent years. We got lucky (or very shrewd homework) with Matty Taylor but with our struggle for goals recently should we not expect someone more likely to hit the ground running rather than another gamble?
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Post by wilkimania on Jul 10, 2019 11:05:12 GMT
What do we consider a Marquee signing?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 11:05:58 GMT
What do we consider a Marquee signing? Messi?
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 10, 2019 11:06:37 GMT
What do we consider a Marquee signing? New tent
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Post by rosssgb on Jul 10, 2019 11:13:50 GMT
Eaves would be a great signing not marquee but would show great intent. Just announced he’s leaving Gills after failing to agree a new deal
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Post by darkbluegas on Jul 10, 2019 11:14:09 GMT
What do we consider a Marquee signing? Alan Ball, Mick Channon, Paul Randall the second time. So we're looking for a world cup winner, a great striker from tbe very top tier and an ex gas hero who scored hatfuls of goals.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 10, 2019 11:23:59 GMT
What’s the obsession with big names, big signings? We’re BRFC and we’re at our best buying young hungry players eager to do well. No reason why they can’t do as well as others. Stay within our budget and improve the team. Don’t want to risk our future on being a Bolton, Bury or Notts Co, signing anything that moves on the strength of being a big name. Good to have a young striker coming in eager to improve. UTG! I guess most would like someone permanent and preferably established - perhaps 'big name' is the wrong terminology and implies big time Charlie? We've signed potential and young loanees in recent years. We got lucky (or very shrewd homework) with Matty Taylor but with our struggle for goals recently should we not expect someone more likely to hit the ground running rather than another gamble? Perhaps but I was responding to the terminology being used. In the end our manager makes a signing who he thinks will improve our team and so far he hasn’t made many mistakes. This summer is a big test for him and I will support what he does presuming he knows what he can do within the budget he has. As you say with some signings you strike lucky with others you might not and the smaller your budget the more important each signing is, but we’re BRFC not Man U! Tyler S May be a gamble but so were Tom N and Stefan P and they cost a lot more. You may be proved right eric and I may end up looking stupid but no signing comes with guarantees. Got to wait until they start playing before we know whether it’s been a good window or not but in today’s instant judgement of everything I think it’s a lot more positive than the last few summers, certainly more so than last year. Well done so far GC and the team responsible, imo! UTG!
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Post by Gassy on Jul 10, 2019 11:30:40 GMT
Eaves would be a great signing not marquee but would show great intent. Just announced he’s leaving Gills after failing to agree a new deal IMO that would definitely be a marquee signing I'd love Eaves here, personally
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Post by z1zou on Jul 10, 2019 11:40:57 GMT
Eaves would be a great signing not marquee but would show great intent. Just announced he’s leaving Gills after failing to agree a new deal IMO that would definitely be a marquee signing I'd love Eaves here, personally Eaves and JCH would put fear into most league 1 defenses. Would never get an easy game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 11:49:38 GMT
Smith was an unused sub in the 1st leg of doncasters play-off semi-final and not in the squad for the 2nd leg.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 11:53:41 GMT
I guess most would like someone permanent and preferably established - perhaps 'big name' is the wrong terminology and implies big time Charlie? We've signed potential and young loanees in recent years. We got lucky (or very shrewd homework) with Matty Taylor but with our struggle for goals recently should we not expect someone more likely to hit the ground running rather than another gamble? Perhaps but I was responding to the terminology being used. In the end our manager makes a signing who he thinks will improve our team and so far he hasn’t made many mistakes. This summer is a big test for him and I will support what he does presuming he knows what he can do within the budget he has. As you say with some signings you strike lucky with others you might not and the smaller your budget the more important each signing is, but we’re BRFC not Man U! Tyler S May be a gamble but so were Tom N and Stefan P and they cost a lot more. You may be proved right eric and I may end up looking stupid but no signing comes with guarantees. Got to wait until they start playing before we know whether it’s been a good window or not but in today’s instant judgement of everything I think it’s a lot more positive than the last few summers, certainly more so than last year. Well done so far GC and the team responsible, imo! UTG! I think you're right no guarantees and hopefully neither of us will look stupid. We're never going to be able to sign real top end league one and two players when fees rise and championship clubs start sniffing, I don't think it unreasonable to sign a striker or creative attacking midfielder with some proven ability at this level though. Perhaps lessening the degree of gamble and improving the chances of success?
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