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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 19, 2019 14:34:19 GMT
The post are now reporting that Chris Hargreaves is now front runner for the job. Like I put earlier on in this thread, I think he’d make a good manager, just wasn’t expecting the opportunity for him to do so to arise so quickly. Thought they were reporting "Football Insider" were saying he's the favourite not they've got any inside knowledge?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 14:37:27 GMT
I don't think Coughlan's decision had anything to do with qualities. I think that when they appointed them as caretakers he had no choice but to keep him in place when it became permanent, but wanted Dunne the whole time. Hargreaves did a really good job with the Development squad and managed them well. He comes across well and players seem to respect him. If the club didn't rate him he would have been gone in the summer. He would get my vote and I think he would get the fans on side when they heard him. I personally don't think he does come acorss very well in interviews.
Coughlan wouldn't have replaced Hargreaves as assistant if he felt he was doing an invaluable job and as I said, his only managerial role was 3 or 4 years ago relegating Torquay to non league.
If he wasn't already on the payroll there is no way he'd be in the running.
As was the case with DC and GC.
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Post by giles on Dec 19, 2019 14:39:21 GMT
I don't think Coughlan's decision had anything to do with qualities. I think that when they appointed them as caretakers he had no choice but to keep him in place when it became permanent, but wanted Dunne the whole time. Hargreaves did a really good job with the Development squad and managed them well. He comes across well and players seem to respect him. If the club didn't rate him he would have been gone in the summer. He would get my vote and I think he would get the fans on side when they heard him. I personally don't think he does come acorss very well in interviews.
Coughlan wouldn't have replaced Hargreaves as assistant if he felt he was doing an invaluable job and as I said, his only managerial role was 3 or 4 years ago relegating Torquay to non league.
If he wasn't already on the payroll there is no way he'd be in the running.
But you're failing to see what a c*nt Coughlan is/was!
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Post by matealotblue on Dec 19, 2019 14:41:52 GMT
Let’s face it.....no matter who we put in charge (or indeed any club) it is always a gamble. Hopefully based on all the best evidence available ....but still a gamble.
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Post by GasAttacK on Dec 19, 2019 14:51:18 GMT
I personally don't think he does come acorss very well in interviews.
Coughlan wouldn't have replaced Hargreaves as assistant if he felt he was doing an invaluable job and as I said, his only managerial role was 3 or 4 years ago relegating Torquay to non league.
If he wasn't already on the payroll there is no way he'd be in the running.
As was the case with DC and GC. Coughlan maybe but DC had an excellent managerial record in non league and I believe was brought here to be Wards successor. That just turned out to be sooner than they thought.
Other than the fact he's on the payroll why on earth would you offer the job to Hargreaves?
Coughlan wasn't considered a contender until he won his first 3 games in charge (Excluding Sunderland which he only jhad a day to prepare for).
If Hargreaves takes temporary charge and we win our next 3 or 4 games then he should be considered for the job. However, as it stands, it's a big no from me.
If he wasn't already at the club and we were being linked with a guy who ran the academy at Burton whose only managerial experience was relegating Torquay to the Conference I don't think many would be too impressed.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 19, 2019 14:58:52 GMT
Really don't want Hargreaves. Zero credentials. His only managerial experience was relegating Torquay to the Conference 3 or 4 years ago losing more games than he won. There's a reason Coughlan replaced him as assistant as soon as he was able to do so. Don’t think anyone could have saved Torquay when we went down. And he had them in the play offs in the Conference before the budget was drastically cut. He resigned at that point and Torquay have only just started to recover. I’d be happy with him and Lee M but I guess we’ll know a bit more when Joe D has made up his mind. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 15:03:00 GMT
Not for me, an outside appointment would be my preference at this time. Been twice lucky with the last two internal appointments but asking a lot to be third time lucky again. Definately would smack of our owners pocketing the compensation money and.yet again doing something on the cheap. If that is the case why bother with all the bluster to the media by our CEO about wanting an experienced proven league manager. One things for sure at least one of the outside applicants is sure to offer more than an internal appointment. If an insider is promoted in my book it's yet more proof of the ambition or lack of it from our owners.
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Post by glengas on Dec 19, 2019 15:05:08 GMT
I thought Rovers were after someone who had a league 1 promotion on their CV. Has this changed?
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Post by GasAttacK on Dec 19, 2019 15:11:12 GMT
I thought Rovers were after someone who had a league 1 promotion on their CV. Has this changed? Hopefully not. Hopefully Hargreaves is just paper talk and nothing more.
If he takes temporary charge over the next 5 games and wins 3 or 4 then he'll have proven he's worth consideration.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 15:16:47 GMT
Not for me, an outside appointment would be my preference at this time. Been twice lucky with the last two internal appointments but asking a lot to be third time lucky again. Definately would smack of our owners pocketing the compensation money and.yet again doing something on the cheap. If that is the case why bother with all the bluster to the media by our CEO about wanting an experienced proven league manager. One things for sure at least one of the outside applicants is sure to offer more than an internal appointment. If an insider is promoted in my book it's yet more proof of the ambition or lack of it from our owners. To be fair Jones has turned us down so it shows we have gone for the best appointment we could make straight off the bat. Problem is it was such an ambitious move we might as well have been trying to hi-Jack Everton’s move for Ancelotti at the last minute.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 15:17:06 GMT
With it looking like Dunne is going if Chris isn’t in charge on Saturday surely we can rule him out of the running?
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Post by james246 on Dec 19, 2019 15:19:12 GMT
For me a Chris Hargreaves / Lee Mansell (Number 1 and 2) combination is an obvious choice in that they know the club setup and players. The only external choice for me would be Ian Holloway (passionate with blue and white blood) but that looks unlikely.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 15:19:42 GMT
The post are now reporting that Chris Hargreaves is now front runner for the job. Like I put earlier on in this thread, I think he’d make a good manager, just wasn’t expecting the opportunity for him to do so to arise so quickly. That’s because the LMA have put out a statement on behalf of all of their members to tell Rovers that they aren’t interested.
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Post by GasAttacK on Dec 19, 2019 15:21:06 GMT
For me a Chris Hargreaves / Lee Mansell (Number 1 and 2) combination is an obvious choice in that they know the club setup and players. The only external choice for me would be Ian Holloway (passionate with blue and white blood) but that looks unlikely. Neither have had much involvement with the first team squad, particularly this season.
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Post by station on Dec 19, 2019 15:24:40 GMT
It would fit into the Rovers way of doing things - cheap option, already on the pay-roll
See what happens on Saturday
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Post by chewbacca on Dec 19, 2019 15:31:13 GMT
For me a Chris Hargreaves / Lee Mansell (Number 1 and 2) combination is an obvious choice in that they know the club setup and players. The only external choice for me would be Ian Holloway (passionate with blue and white blood) but that looks unlikely. Passion is a bloody awful reason to appoint a manager.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Dec 19, 2019 16:18:24 GMT
He’s 6/1 on Sky bet so there’s some money to be made if true.
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Post by curlywurly on Dec 19, 2019 16:26:04 GMT
It would fit into the Rovers way of doing things - cheap option, already on the pay-roll See what happens on Saturday Maybe, but they know the players and what they can and can't do.
Hargreaves and Mansell were alongside Coughlan for the second half of last season and with Kevin Maher my preference would be to keep the continuity - at least until the end of the season.
Any outside option is hit and miss - some of them with a much greater chance of chaos than others.
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Post by station on Dec 19, 2019 16:30:04 GMT
It would fit into the Rovers way of doing things - cheap option, already on the pay-roll See what happens on Saturday Maybe, but they know the players and what they can and can't do.
Hargreaves and Mansell were alongside Coughlan for the second half of last season and with Kevin Maher my preference would be to keep the continuity - at least until the end of the season.
Any outside option is hit and miss - some of them with a much greater chance of chaos than others.
Yes, totally agree, this was not a grumble but just a general observation.
The more you think about it, the more it sounds like the sensible way to go.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 16:49:02 GMT
The owners will be over the moon with the cuts to the wage bill this week.
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