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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 14, 2019 19:42:47 GMT
Yeovil & Burton survived perfectly OK when they were in the Championship. Did they? Yeovil now non league having never recovered from their one year. Burton lasted two (?) and are surviving. But I wouldn’t say either “survived perfectly,” they struggled and being losing teams never attracted the crowds. But I agree with the point I think you’re making, that it doesn’t matter what condition the club is in we should always try and get promotion and play as high as possible. Apologies if that wasn’t your point. UTG! edit: just seen the other replies about those two surviving ok. Of course they didn’t. Topper was talking financially, as was I, not about staying in the Championship.
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Post by singupgas on Dec 14, 2019 19:48:51 GMT
The point is it shouldn't be this way. We are treated like mugs. Or treated like the third tier club supporters that we are. 1 - Have Rovers supporters always been treated like mugs ? 2 - Our current grounds bigger and got better facilities than it has ever had, 3 -We’re league 1 punching above our weight and our manager has been an absolute legend in getting us safe last year and in a great position to push for promotion this season. 4 - Maybe this thing tonight is about wanting the budget increased maybe it’s about something else. 5 - If it is about the budget and the board won’t give it to him and he leaves then he’ll join the list of other managers that have done well and gone on to bigger and possibly better things. 6 - It’s easy to spend the clubs money in a forum when the money’s not yours. 7 - Maybe if all the gas that “ haven’t taken “ to Coughlan and “can’t face going at the moment “ had turned up and supported the club over the last few months as we’ve risen to 4th in the league then the money would be there to offer a better deal or sign a player that could help us push on. 1 - Maybe, but why buy a football club and not talk to the fans who are the customer and keep the club alive. 2 - Better facilities, the bars have improved slightly yes, but that is all. The shop is an improvement, but they just filled a space that used to be the old bar. 3 - GC is doing a brilliant job and deserves recognition, pay maybe, but yes also a budget if we are to actually have a go. 4 - Didnt give the impression this is just about budget to me, sounds like a man serious annoyed at a lot of thing at the club other than the players. 5 - He could have an offer, maybe Sunderland or Portsmouth fancy him - both struggling in this league considering their history 6 - I didnt buy the club, i wasnt on the radio first game of the season talking about Stadium sites. 7 - Blaming the fans for GC not having a decent budget. Sorry but that is a ridiculous thing to say. If the owners are ambitious, they would back GC, their club is 4th in the league.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2019 19:50:44 GMT
Ive just watched his post match interview.For me he is 100% gone, you can tell by his body language. And by his words its to do with the owners and them proberly not giving him any money and selling JCH. I've just watched it and am convinced he is off. He was very emotional and it would appear to me the man is very very ambitious, but I fear something has happened at the club that shows him they are not as ambitious as him. That can only mean one thing in my mind the January transfer window and the situation with JCH. If that proves to be the case I wish GC all the very best for the future and thank him for all he has done at the club. As far as our owners are concerned, my comments will follow if indeed GC is off. I will throw this into the ring, I wonder if all the vitriol towards Mr Hamer was well founded or is there a link here and perhaps SH was not the guilty party but just another victim like it would appear GC has become? Ask Gashead1981 as he's the one backing Wael v SH? Posters who say they've spoke to JCH suggest the club won't offer enough to stay, now GC seems to be saying the same about the playing budget, perhaps if the ALQ's won't back the manager it really is time for them to announce officially to the fans that the club's up for sale?
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Post by Gas1977 on Dec 14, 2019 19:52:00 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2019 19:53:48 GMT
Or treated like the third tier club supporters that we are. 1 - Have Rovers supporters always been treated like mugs ? 2 - Our current grounds bigger and got better facilities than it has ever had, 3 -We’re league 1 punching above our weight and our manager has been an absolute legend in getting us safe last year and in a great position to push for promotion this season. 4 - Maybe this thing tonight is about wanting the budget increased maybe it’s about something else. 5 - If it is about the budget and the board won’t give it to him and he leaves then he’ll join the list of other managers that have done well and gone on to bigger and possibly better things. 6 - It’s easy to spend the clubs money in a forum when the money’s not yours. 7 - Maybe if all the gas that “ haven’t taken “ to Coughlan and “can’t face going at the moment “ had turned up and supported the club over the last few months as we’ve risen to 4th in the league then the money would be there to offer a better deal or sign a player that could help us push on. 1 - Maybe, but why buy a football club and not talk to the fans who are the customer and keep the club alive. 2 - Better facilities, the bars have improved slightly yes, but that is all. The shop is an improvement, but they just filled a space that used to be the old bar. 3 - GC is doing a brilliant job and deserves recognition, pay maybe, but yes also a budget if we are to actually have a go. 4 - Didnt give the impression this is just about budget to me, sounds like a man serious annoyed at a lot of thing at the club other than the players. 5 - He could have an offer, maybe Sunderland or Portsmouth fancy him - both struggling in this league considering their history 6 - I didnt buy the club, i wasnt on the radio first game of the season talking about Stadium sites. 7 - Blaming the fans for GC not having a decent budget. Sorry but that is a ridiculous thing to say. If the owners are ambitious, they would back GC, their club is 4th in the league. Better facilities were paid for by insurance co money etc, meanwhile the ALQ's were spending £250K a year on an office in London. We could well now lose 2 decent managers in a year, that must tell you something about the owners.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2019 19:56:10 GMT
I’m sorry, but the Al Qadi’s gave DC the best budget this club’s ever had, and he wasted the best part of £1m on the likes of Bennett, Payne, Mensah, Burn, and Nichols. Unfortunately, it looks like there’s no money left, what are people expecting, Hani and co to magic up another couple of million when they’re trying to cut their losses and sell? I’m sure Wael would love to give GC some more money, but we are literally at our limit, and I hate to say it as I love the bloke but a lot of that is down to DC banging the “i need more money” drum every post-match interview then wasting the majority of it. Unfortunately it’s caught up with us. Like me you haven't a clue that's really the case I doubt if GC is daft enough to want to bankrupt the club by asking for too much in January. It's not like he's use to managing at an high level/having a massive playing budget, it's obvious he's had little to work with since taking over.
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Post by socrates on Dec 14, 2019 20:07:06 GMT
Or treated like the third tier club supporters that we are. 1 - Have Rovers supporters always been treated like mugs ? 2 - Our current grounds bigger and got better facilities than it has ever had, 3 -We’re league 1 punching above our weight and our manager has been an absolute legend in getting us safe last year and in a great position to push for promotion this season. 4 - Maybe this thing tonight is about wanting the budget increased maybe it’s about something else. 5 - If it is about the budget and the board won’t give it to him and he leaves then he’ll join the list of other managers that have done well and gone on to bigger and possibly better things. 6 - It’s easy to spend the clubs money in a forum when the money’s not yours. 7 - Maybe if all the gas that “ haven’t taken “ to Coughlan and “can’t face going at the moment “ had turned up and supported the club over the last few months as we’ve risen to 4th in the league then the money would be there to offer a better deal or sign a player that could help us push on. 1 - Maybe, but why buy a football club and not talk to the fans who are the customer and keep the club alive. 2 - Better facilities, the bars have improved slightly yes, but that is all. The shop is an improvement, but they just filled a space that used to be the old bar. 3 - GC is doing a brilliant job and deserves recognition, pay maybe, but yes also a budget if we are to actually have a go. 4 - Didnt give the impression this is just about budget to me, sounds like a man serious annoyed at a lot of thing at the club other than the players. 5 - He could have an offer, maybe Sunderland or Portsmouth fancy him - both struggling in this league considering their history 6 - I didnt buy the club, i wasnt on the radio first game of the season talking about Stadium sites. 7 - Blaming the fans for GC not having a decent budget. Sorry but that is a ridiculous thing to say. If the owners are ambitious, they would back GC, their club is 4th in the league. We’re 4th in the league have only lost one game at home and many don’t fancy it. Gates are the main income for football clubs in the lower leagues and our gates are down. I’m not saying our owners have been great , they’ve been pretty average compared to previous not as good as the Dunfords , better the Higgs etc. If club income is down then the budget increasing is unlikely . The Mem is a better stadium now than its ever been and the pitch is better too. It’s still a crap looking ground yeah but it’s at its peak as we’ve known it. If Sunderland or Pompey come in for Coughlan then he should take it. He deserves it and doesn’t deserve the crap that he’s had to endure in his time here when he’s been nothing short of a revelation for the club. This country has gone mad and it would appear my football club is going the same way. You get what you deserve.
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Post by singupgas on Dec 14, 2019 20:15:23 GMT
1 - Maybe, but why buy a football club and not talk to the fans who are the customer and keep the club alive. 2 - Better facilities, the bars have improved slightly yes, but that is all. The shop is an improvement, but they just filled a space that used to be the old bar. 3 - GC is doing a brilliant job and deserves recognition, pay maybe, but yes also a budget if we are to actually have a go. 4 - Didnt give the impression this is just about budget to me, sounds like a man serious annoyed at a lot of thing at the club other than the players. 5 - He could have an offer, maybe Sunderland or Portsmouth fancy him - both struggling in this league considering their history 6 - I didnt buy the club, i wasnt on the radio first game of the season talking about Stadium sites. 7 - Blaming the fans for GC not having a decent budget. Sorry but that is a ridiculous thing to say. If the owners are ambitious, they would back GC, their club is 4th in the league. We’re 4th in the league have only lost one game at home and many don’t fancy it. Gates are the main income for football clubs in the lower leagues and our gates are down. I’m not saying our owners have been great , they’ve been pretty average compared to previous not as good as the Dunfords , better the Higgs etc. If club income is down then the budget increasing is unlikely . The Mem is a better stadium now than its ever been and the pitch is better too. It’s still a crap looking ground yeah but it’s at its peak as we’ve known it. If Sunderland or Pompey come in for Coughlan then he should take it. He deserves it and doesn’t deserve the crap that he’s had to endure in his time here when he’s been nothing short of a revelation for the club. This country has gone mad and it would appear my football club is going the same way. You get what you deserve. I dont know what the country has to do with it, i wont go into politics, tired of that too. .. but the value of the pound has just gone up, county is not in that bad of a way...it could have been worse waking up on Friday.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 14, 2019 20:30:36 GMT
We’re 4th in the league have only lost one game at home and many don’t fancy it. Gates are the main income for football clubs in the lower leagues and our gates are down. I’m not saying our owners have been great , they’ve been pretty average compared to previous not as good as the Dunfords , better the Higgs etc. If club income is down then the budget increasing is unlikely . The Mem is a better stadium now than its ever been and the pitch is better too. It’s still a crap looking ground yeah but it’s at its peak as we’ve known it. If Sunderland or Pompey come in for Coughlan then he should take it. He deserves it and doesn’t deserve the crap that he’s had to endure in his time here when he’s been nothing short of a revelation for the club. This country has gone mad and it would appear my football club is going the same way. You get what you deserve. I dont know what the country has to do with it, i wont go into politics, tired of that too. .. but the value of the pound has just gone up, county is not in that bad of a way...it could have been worse waking up on Friday. The pound is up because big business is up .... because? If I have to tell you you probably wouldn’t get it anyway. Enough politics as you say.
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Post by singupgas on Dec 14, 2019 20:33:55 GMT
I dont know what the country has to do with it, i wont go into politics, tired of that too. .. but the value of the pound has just gone up, county is not in that bad of a way...it could have been worse waking up on Friday. The pound is up because big business is up .... because? If I have to tell you you probably wouldn’t get it anyway. Enough politics as you say. Go on Yatton, please explain. Please unload your superior knowledge on me. Ill try and keep up.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 14, 2019 22:25:40 GMT
I've just watched it and am convinced he is off. He was very emotional and it would appear to me the man is very very ambitious, but I fear something has happened at the club that shows him they are not as ambitious as him. That can only mean one thing in my mind the January transfer window and the situation with JCH. If that proves to be the case I wish GC all the very best for the future and thank him for all he has done at the club. As far as our owners are concerned, my comments will follow if indeed GC is off. I will throw this into the ring, I wonder if all the vitriol towards Mr Hamer was well founded or is there a link here and perhaps SH was not the guilty party but just another victim like it would appear GC has become? Ask Gashead1981 as he's the one backing Wael v SH? Posters who say they've spoke to JCH suggest the club won't offer enough to stay, now GC seems to be saying the same about the playing budget, perhaps if the ALQ's won't back the manager it really is time for them to announce officially to the fans that the club's up for sale? This has nothing to do with it. GC has been tapped up by Mansfield. It’s very clear from GCs interview he has a family vs career moment going on and it’s that what’s led him to reveal it. It’s got nothing to do with club politics (which GC doesn’t do as he’s stated many times) budget, contracts, pay, or a stadium and training ground. This is purely about the mans happiness. Personally I well understand it. I work away from time to time, and out of the country too from Europe to the Middle East. I hate being away from my wife and child. I’m working in London Thursday and Fri next week and I’m not even looking forward to that so I can understand how GC feels. Sheffield isn’t exactly around the corner from Bristol is it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 22:31:29 GMT
Ask Gashead1981 as he's the one backing Wael v SH? Posters who say they've spoke to JCH suggest the club won't offer enough to stay, now GC seems to be saying the same about the playing budget, perhaps if the ALQ's won't back the manager it really is time for them to announce officially to the fans that the club's up for sale? This has nothing to do with it. GC has been tapped up by Mansfield. It’s very clear from GCs interview he has a family vs career moment going on and it’s that what’s led him to reveal it. It’s got nothing to do with club politics (which GC doesn’t do as he’s stated many times) budget, contracts, pay, or a stadium and training ground. This is purely about the mans happiness. Personally I well understand it. I work away from time to time, and out of the country too from Europe to the Middle East. I hate being away from my wife and child. I’m working in London Thursday and Fri next week and I’m not even looking forward to that so I can understand how GC feels. Sheffield isn’t exactly around the corner from Bristol is it. Are you deluded? What part of "i dont know where i can take this club" or words to that effect did you not understand? You taking the party line stance is wearing a bit thin as its very obvious coughlan had talks about january and beyond with wael or his lackey starnes.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 14, 2019 23:00:18 GMT
This has nothing to do with it. GC has been tapped up by Mansfield. It’s very clear from GCs interview he has a family vs career moment going on and it’s that what’s led him to reveal it. It’s got nothing to do with club politics (which GC doesn’t do as he’s stated many times) budget, contracts, pay, or a stadium and training ground. This is purely about the mans happiness. Personally I well understand it. I work away from time to time, and out of the country too from Europe to the Middle East. I hate being away from my wife and child. I’m working in London Thursday and Fri next week and I’m not even looking forward to that so I can understand how GC feels. Sheffield isn’t exactly around the corner from Bristol is it. Are you deluded? What part of "i dont know where i can take this club" or words to that effect did you not understand? You taking the party line stance is wearing a bit thin as its very obvious coughlan had talks about january and beyond with wael or his lackey starnes. That is such a deflection line and an absolute fish hook for some sympathy which some of you lot have baited at. Use the apathy of the owners to his advantage why not. You have to be able to read people a lot better than that and I’ve seen right through that. 2 games ago he was all about fight and passion and every other catchphrase a manager can throw around when he is 2-0 down at half time. 1 phone call from Mansfield and it’s “oh I’m not sure how far I can take us” well how far do you think Mansfield will go? Yes we are batting above our average and sure we aren’t great but he’s got a better platform at Rovers than he will have at Mansfield that’s for sure. Just look at where we are in our respective divisions will you? I mean sure, he misses his family and his marriage is probably hurting because of the distance but if you are going to say you want to leave at least man up and be honest about the reasons why. Just one question, if it was about his budget, where does Cogs make a direct reference to that in his interview? You also can’t confirm the budget spend for Jan until next Tuesday because we have a cup replay at Plymouth and if we get to round 3 there will be extra funds available.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 23:05:36 GMT
Are you deluded? What part of "i dont know where i can take this club" or words to that effect did you not understand? You taking the party line stance is wearing a bit thin as its very obvious coughlan had talks about january and beyond with wael or his lackey starnes. That is such a deflection line and an absolute fish hook for some sympathy which some of you lot have baited at. Use the apathy of the owners to his advantage why not. You have to be able to read people a lot better than that and I’ve seen right through that. 2 games ago he was all about fight and passion and every other catchphrase a manager can throw around when he is 2-0 down at half time. 1 phone call from Mansfield and it’s “oh I’m not sure how far I can take us” well how far do you think Mansfield will go? Yes we are batting above our average and sure we aren’t great but he’s got a better platform at Rovers than he will have at Mansfield that’s for sure. Just look at where we are in our respective divisions will you? I mean sure, he misses his family and his marriage is probably hurting because of the distance but if you are going to say you want to leave at least man up and be honest about the reasons why. Coughlan is and always has been an ambitious man and he has gone to mansfield to better himself because just like the previous manager he knows BRFC are going nowhere. But hey stick to your yes man stuff by all means as it will please starnes/wael .
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 14, 2019 23:06:26 GMT
Posts on the Ispwich match thread suggest he wants backing in January, problem is can we survive in the Championship at the Mem when we're already losing £m's in League 1. Typical Rovers we can't even enjoy a famous win for 1 night! Yeovil & Burton survived perfectly OK when they were in the Championship. Is this the same Yeovil who were instantly relegated? Then relegated again to Lge 2, and are now in non-league. And the same Burton who just survived the first season in the champ, but then were relegated and are currently 16th in Lge 1? Not sure how that is "survived perfectly OK"? Edit - OK, seen the other posts, so understand that. I'd still suggest though that the lack of onfield success has potentially hurt them, especially Yeovil of course who have imploded since going up. Some of that is clearly finance based as going up and down lges does play havoc with contracts, salaries etc.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 14, 2019 23:31:40 GMT
I've just watched it and am convinced he is off. He was very emotional and it would appear to me the man is very very ambitious, but I fear something has happened at the club that shows him they are not as ambitious as him. That can only mean one thing in my mind the January transfer window and the situation with JCH. If that proves to be the case I wish GC all the very best for the future and thank him for all he has done at the club. As far as our owners are concerned, my comments will follow if indeed GC is off. I will throw this into the ring, I wonder if all the vitriol towards Mr Hamer was well founded or is there a link here and perhaps SH was not the guilty party but just another victim like it would appear GC has become? Ask Gashead1981 as he's the one backing Wael v SH? Posters who say they've spoke to JCH suggest the club won't offer enough to stay, now GC seems to be saying the same about the playing budget, perhaps if the ALQ's won't back the manager it really is time for them to announce officially to the fans that the club's up for sale?
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 14, 2019 23:33:25 GMT
IF ONLY 🙏🙏🙏
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Post by socrates on Dec 14, 2019 23:36:23 GMT
Are you deluded? What part of "i dont know where i can take this club" or words to that effect did you not understand? You taking the party line stance is wearing a bit thin as its very obvious coughlan had talks about january and beyond with wael or his lackey starnes. That is such a deflection line and an absolute fish hook for some sympathy which some of you lot have baited at. Use the apathy of the owners to his advantage why not. You have to be able to read people a lot better than that and I’ve seen right through that. 2 games ago he was all about fight and passion and every other catchphrase a manager can throw around when he is 2-0 down at half time. 1 phone call from Mansfield and it’s “oh I’m not sure how far I can take us” well how far do you think Mansfield will go? Yes we are batting above our average and sure we aren’t great but he’s got a better platform at Rovers than he will have at Mansfield that’s for sure. Just look at where we are in our respective divisions will you? I mean sure, he misses his family and his marriage is probably hurting because of the distance but if you are going to say you want to leave at least man up and be honest about the reasons why. Just one question, if it was about his budget, where does Cogs make a direct reference to that in his interview? You also can’t confirm the budget spend for Jan until next Tuesday because we have a cup replay at Plymouth and if we get to round 3 there will be extra funds available. Guess work
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2019 23:38:12 GMT
Are you deluded? What part of "i dont know where i can take this club" or words to that effect did you not understand? You taking the party line stance is wearing a bit thin as its very obvious coughlan had talks about january and beyond with wael or his lackey starnes. That is such a deflection line and an absolute fish hook for some sympathy which some of you lot have baited at. Use the apathy of the owners to his advantage why not. You have to be able to read people a lot better than that and I’ve seen right through that. 2 games ago he was all about fight and passion and every other catchphrase a manager can throw around when he is 2-0 down at half time. 1 phone call from Mansfield and it’s “oh I’m not sure how far I can take us” well how far do you think Mansfield will go? Yes we are batting above our average and sure we aren’t great but he’s got a better platform at Rovers than he will have at Mansfield that’s for sure. Just look at where we are in our respective divisions will you? I mean sure, he misses his family and his marriage is probably hurting because of the distance but if you are going to say you want to leave at least man up and be honest about the reasons why. Just one question, if it was about his budget, where does Cogs make a direct reference to that in his interview? You also can’t confirm the budget spend for Jan until next Tuesday because we have a cup replay at Plymouth and if we get to round 3 there will be extra funds available. Come on, GC has spent decades away from Yorkshire why's he suddenly worrying about his family now, as BB suggests this towing the party line is wearing a bit thin. I guess you'll be saying next SH fed the BP all the stuff about transfer budgets and the training ground. If they lose GC the ALQ's should officially put the club up for sale before their reputation is totally destroyed. They must be close to being the biggest laughing stock in football tonight.
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Post by rosssgb on Dec 14, 2019 23:44:35 GMT
f**k of Wael, he couldn’t care less about the club and this saga proves it.
GTFO
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