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Post by dukegas on Dec 14, 2019 23:58:33 GMT
Let’s face it none of us have any inside information as to why our manager is thinking of leaving, I can understand the difficulty of living away from his family , however they lived there when he took the job I feel there is something else that has sparked his announcement, but let’s think about the club itself we were all over the moon when the new owners took over thinkingt at last we will have some funding available but look at the situation we are in a training ground with absolutely nothing happening, we talk about the lack of atmosphere at the Mem for all to see, it’s as though the togetherness is being sucked out of the club, how many times as fans are we going to be let down , we all know we are going nowhere unless we have owners that truly want to invest , I really despair at the disappointments we suffer as fans, you don’t need to be a professor to see why the crowds are falling, we will still support our team but wouldn’t we all be pleased if for once we could see some good news off the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 23:59:01 GMT
f**k of Wael, he couldn’t care less about the club and this saga proves it. GTFO Looked like he cared when I saw him on the East Terrace recently. It was the Leland DAF against Orient with less than a thousand in attendance on the coldest night in the history of the world. I don’t think the rest of the family give a fook about Rovers - or football generally for that matter.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 15, 2019 0:05:04 GMT
f**k of Wael, he couldn’t care less about the club and this saga proves it. GTFO Looked like he cared when I saw him on the East Terrace recently. It was the Leland DAF against Orient with less than a thousand in attendance on the coldest night in the history of the world. I don’t think the rest of the family give a fook about Rovers - or football generally for that matter. Agree re . Wael - but he doesn’t hold the purse strings unfortunately - best if they just left - but that doesn’t look likely . The silence is deafening - something has to change 🙃 utg
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 0:07:41 GMT
Looked like he cared when I saw him on the East Terrace recently. It was the Leland DAF against Orient with less than a thousand in attendance on the coldest night in the history of the world. I don’t think the rest of the family give a fook about Rovers - or football generally for that matter. Agree re . Wael - but he doesn’t hold the purse strings unfortunately - best if they just left - but that doesn’t look likely . The silence is deafening - something has to change 🙃 utg Totally agree. Just felt abusing WAQ and questioning whether he cares about Rovers was ridiculously unfair.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 15, 2019 0:15:36 GMT
Agree 👍 utg
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Post by gasman on Dec 15, 2019 0:19:08 GMT
perhaps the owners have said to management we cant afford to get promoted as there's no money to invest
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 15, 2019 0:23:16 GMT
perhaps the owners have said to management we cant afford to get promoted as there's no money to invest How can you not afford to get promoted? The money difference on sponsorship etc I imagine is pretty sizeable.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 15, 2019 6:29:38 GMT
That is such a deflection line and an absolute fish hook for some sympathy which some of you lot have baited at. Use the apathy of the owners to his advantage why not. You have to be able to read people a lot better than that and I’ve seen right through that. 2 games ago he was all about fight and passion and every other catchphrase a manager can throw around when he is 2-0 down at half time. 1 phone call from Mansfield and it’s “oh I’m not sure how far I can take us” well how far do you think Mansfield will go? Yes we are batting above our average and sure we aren’t great but he’s got a better platform at Rovers than he will have at Mansfield that’s for sure. Just look at where we are in our respective divisions will you? I mean sure, he misses his family and his marriage is probably hurting because of the distance but if you are going to say you want to leave at least man up and be honest about the reasons why. Just one question, if it was about his budget, where does Cogs make a direct reference to that in his interview? You also can’t confirm the budget spend for Jan until next Tuesday because we have a cup replay at Plymouth and if we get to round 3 there will be extra funds available. Come on, GC has spent decades away from Yorkshire why's he suddenly worrying about his family now, as BB suggests this towing the party line is wearing a bit thin. I guess you'll be saying next SH fed the BP all the stuff about transfer budgets and the training ground. If they lose GC the ALQ's should officially put the club up for sale before their reputation is totally destroyed. They must be close to being the biggest laughing stock in football tonight. He was at Plymouth for 4 seasons as a player from 2001, probably before he was married. But spent the rest of his playing career in Scotland, the north or midlands before and after that spell until he went to Southend in 2010. Being a player you get more time off being a gaffer too so it was probably ok to go back and forth. After the Shrewsbury game I think it was he was saying how he can do special things with “this group of players”. In 3 games after 3 wins and sitting 4th in the table, what’s changed? If you don’t think he’s been tapped up with an approach then why do you think he would say what he did in his interview before Mansfield even sacked Dempster? The only jobs on the market at the time were Everton and Arsenal. I’m sorry but GC has played an underhand card here and before you say anything else about party lines remember when most of you lot were being miserable and slagging his tactics and style of play I was the one championing him and saying I was enjoying it.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 15, 2019 6:44:50 GMT
I think its probably time for the AQs to cut their losses and leave.
Hopefully one of the 3 not-consortiums will buy us out soon.
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Post by northridinggas on Dec 15, 2019 7:45:05 GMT
perhaps the owners have said to management we cant afford to get promoted as there's no money to invest How can you not afford to get promoted? The money difference on sponsorship etc I imagine is pretty sizeable. And most importantly, if the AQs are trying to sell, it makes us massively more attractive to potential buyers.
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Post by Fetch on Dec 15, 2019 8:24:26 GMT
I’m sorry, but the Al Qadi’s gave DC the best budget this club’s ever had, and he wasted the best part of £1m on the likes of Bennett, Payne, Mensah, Burn, and Nichols. Unfortunately, it looks like there’s no money left, what are people expecting, Hani and co to magic up another couple of million when they’re trying to cut their losses and sell? I’m sure Wael would love to give GC some more money, but we are literally at our limit, and I hate to say it as I love the bloke but a lot of that is down to DC banging the “i need more money” drum every post-match interview then wasting the majority of it. Unfortunately it’s caught up with us. The same Nichols who played a part in both goals today? Best budget, considering inflation? Considering the money raised due to sells? Yes the same Nichols. He cost £350,000. Regardless of how he did today he still cost that much and most will agree hasn’t been worth that fee. There’s no money left, it’s all been spent on this budget - if we can let some players like Bennett go then that obviously frees up cash, but easier said than done. My point is we’re in a very difficult position primarily as a result of bad spending, rather than under-funding.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 15, 2019 8:30:45 GMT
The same Nichols who played a part in both goals today? Best budget, considering inflation? Considering the money raised due to sells? Yes the same Nichols. He cost £350,000. Regardless of how he did today he still cost that much and most will agree hasn’t been worth that fee. There’s no money left, it’s all been spent on this budget - if we can let some players like Bennett go then that obviously frees up cash, but easier said than done. My point is we’re in a very difficult position primarily as a result of bad spending, rather than under-funding. The bigger issue for me, is that we have failed to nail down our assets and get the maximum we could for them. We have had so many good players in the past few years but not received enough for them to reinvest back into the team.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 8:39:46 GMT
Yes the same Nichols. He cost £350,000. Regardless of how he did today he still cost that much and most will agree hasn’t been worth that fee. There’s no money left, it’s all been spent on this budget - if we can let some players like Bennett go then that obviously frees up cash, but easier said than done. My point is we’re in a very difficult position primarily as a result of bad spending, rather than under-funding. The bigger issue for me, is that we have failed to nail down our assets and get the maximum we could for them. We have had so many good players in the past few years but not received enough for them to reinvest back into the team. Given the increasingly widening financial gap between the Championship and League One and Two, I think this will continue to be a massive problem for every lower league club. Why would anyone making a big impact in the lower leagues commit themselves to a club when the prospect of a life changing contract with a Championship club exists? The vast majority of clubs couldn't come remotely close to offering what's on offer there.
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Post by empirebaypete on Dec 15, 2019 8:40:02 GMT
perhaps the owners have said to management we cant afford to get promoted as there's no money to invest How can you not afford to get promoted? The money difference on sponsorship etc I imagine is pretty sizeable. Because we won't be able to afford the player required to compete and we'll come straight back down?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 15, 2019 8:41:30 GMT
The bigger issue for me, is that we have failed to nail down our assets and get the maximum we could for them. We have had so many good players in the past few years but not received enough for them to reinvest back into the team. Given the increasingly widening financial gap between the Championship and League One and Two, I think this will continue to be a massive problem for every lower league club. Why would anyone making a big impact in the lower leagues commit themselves to a club when the prospect of a life changing contract with a Championship club exists? The vast majority of clubs couldn't come remotely close to offering what's on offer there. Fair point. Just frustrating to see the likes of Accrington get £1.5m for Jackson. Doncaster £2m for Marquis etc. Peterborough always sell their players for a fair whack.
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Post by blueridge on Dec 15, 2019 8:42:18 GMT
This saga is a complete humiliation for the club. A struggling 2nd division team can attract a manager from a team who could next Saturday, on the basis of just two results be in an automatic promotion position. It's a sorry situation, IMO of the owners that it has come to this. I was firm supporter of GC despite many on here acting as though they were DC's love children but his 'crocodile' tears last evening do not wash with me. His position now is untenable - hopefully the club can agree a compensation package quickly and we move on again. The worry I have is the impact this will have on the playing staff as clearly he had a 'special' relationship with them.
Tony Craig would be my suggestion as a caretaker manager for the rest of the season - IF new owners are coming in it will at least give them the opportunity to bring their own man in.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 15, 2019 8:43:34 GMT
How can you not afford to get promoted? The money difference on sponsorship etc I imagine is pretty sizeable. Because we won't be able to afford the player required to compete and we'll come straight back down? We'd have to gamble on players on their way down, players doing well from lower leagues but for smaller clubs and loanees.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 15, 2019 8:46:02 GMT
This saga is a complete humiliation for the club. A struggling 2nd division team can attract a manager from a team who could next Saturday, on the basis of just two results be in an automatic promotion position. It's a sad incitement of, IMO the owners that it has come to this. I was firm supporter of GC despite many on here acting as though they were DC's love children but his 'crocodile' tears last evening do not wash with me. His position now is untenable - hopefully the club can agree a compensation package quickly and we move on again. The worry I have is the impact this will have on the playing staff as clearly he had a 'special' relationship with them. Tony Craig would be my suggestion as a caretaker manager for the rest of the season - IF new owners are coming in it will at least give them the opportunity to bring their own man in. Mentioned Tony Craig on another thread. We could do a lot worse. I think experience is overrated. I like to see passion, hunger and an understanding of my club. Tony Craig would fit into all of these. Also believe the players would run through brick walls for him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 8:51:09 GMT
Given the increasingly widening financial gap between the Championship and League One and Two, I think this will continue to be a massive problem for every lower league club. Why would anyone making a big impact in the lower leagues commit themselves to a club when the prospect of a life changing contract with a Championship club exists? The vast majority of clubs couldn't come remotely close to offering what's on offer there. Fair point. Just frustrating to see the likes of Accrington get £1.5m for Jackson. Doncaster £2m for Marquis etc. Peterborough always sell their players for a fair whack. Definitely. It's promising that AK has signed up to a new contract as you'd like to think his value could be in that price bracket given his age.
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Post by tbonegas on Dec 15, 2019 8:54:33 GMT
This saga is a complete humiliation for the club. A struggling 2nd division team can attract a manager from a team who could next Saturday, on the basis of just two results be in an automatic promotion position. It's a sad incitement of, IMO the owners that it has come to this. I was firm supporter of GC despite many on here acting as though they were DC's love children but his 'crocodile' tears last evening do not wash with me. His position now is untenable - hopefully the club can agree a compensation package quickly and we move on again. The worry I have is the impact this will have on the playing staff as clearly he had a 'special' relationship with them. Tony Craig would be my suggestion as a caretaker manager for the rest of the season - IF new owners are coming in it will at least give them the opportunity to bring their own man in. Cheers SreveK92. The Al Qadis have ripped the heart out if the club. As long as Craig stops playing, I will be in favour of him taking the managers job.
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