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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 21, 2020 6:31:47 GMT
I went to Tesco last week and they had run out of cauliflower. I mentioned it to a supervisor nearby, and he said that unless I've run a supermarket before, and have enough funds to take over the company and run it better, I should just shut my mouth and stop complaining about things I don't understand. That told me. So I went to Asda. None of the above is true, but apparently it is the rule on this forum. Why didn't you just organise a protest?! That's a rule of this thread, isn't it?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 21, 2020 10:26:06 GMT
Have I? Where have I said that? On this thread you said the following: ...” protest against what exactly? An owner covering the huge losses now involved in running a football club? An owner fighting off a group of machiavellian amateurs trying to force a bad deal for the club?” So either you know what that deal is or you are mud slinging? Fair enough I did didn't I! Well, what I know I have mostly posted on the FM thread so I will refer you to that firstly. Its mostly common knowledge too that Hamer and Masters are the architects, or were introduced to Lavaniac and Conygre and between them all they have been trying to arrange the deal. There have been some things I have found out (Not from WAQ before anyone makes another fanboy spokesman allegation) that are quite unbelievable about what they are proposing, and what they will get in exchange for certain things but should I post them, I feel its likely that Hamer and Masters will print that and use it against me in some way as I have received 3rd party threats that they will do so and Gasincider, who is good mates with Masters, also threatened to do with another comment I made here last week. So I am having to be a touch careful about what I write. However if you want to meet me at a game I will happily tell you what I know.
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Post by orgasmic on Jan 21, 2020 11:08:55 GMT
On this thread you said the following: ...” protest against what exactly? An owner covering the huge losses now involved in running a football club? An owner fighting off a group of machiavellian amateurs trying to force a bad deal for the club?” So either you know what that deal is or you are mud slinging? Fair enough I did didn't I! Well, what I know I have mostly posted on the FM thread so I will refer you to that firstly. Its mostly common knowledge too that Hamer and Masters are the architects, or were introduced to Lavaniac and Conygre and between them all they have been trying to arrange the deal. There have been some things I have found out (Not from WAQ before anyone makes another fanboy spokesman allegation) that are quite unbelievable about what they are proposing, and what they will get in exchange for certain things but should I post them, I feel its likely that Hamer and Masters will print that and use it against me in some way as I have received 3rd party threats that they will do so and Gasincider, who is good mates with Masters, also threatened to do with another comment I made here last week. So I am having to be a touch careful about what I write. However if you want to meet me at a game I will happily tell you what I know. Thanks for the honest answer. Surely you can wildly speculate on anything you like on an Internet forum though? For example my mate Santa told me down the pub the other day that the FM was a bad deal because they want to make it out of Lego. Not sure how a 3rd party could do anything about it! Don’t want to put you in a difficult situation but if there was any kind of clarity around these issues then fans could get behind a deal or not as the case might be. If it’s not a good deal then it should be communicated out so we don’t end up worse off in the future (not necessarily by you)! Hope you understand what I’m getting at but again thanks for the straight answer!
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 21, 2020 11:46:41 GMT
Fair enough I did didn't I! Well, what I know I have mostly posted on the FM thread so I will refer you to that firstly. Its mostly common knowledge too that Hamer and Masters are the architects, or were introduced to Lavaniac and Conygre and between them all they have been trying to arrange the deal. There have been some things I have found out (Not from WAQ before anyone makes another fanboy spokesman allegation) that are quite unbelievable about what they are proposing, and what they will get in exchange for certain things but should I post them, I feel its likely that Hamer and Masters will print that and use it against me in some way as I have received 3rd party threats that they will do so and Gasincider, who is good mates with Masters, also threatened to do with another comment I made here last week. So I am having to be a touch careful about what I write. However if you want to meet me at a game I will happily tell you what I know. Thanks for the honest answer. Surely you can wildly speculate on anything you like on an Internet forum though? For example my mate Santa told me down the pub the other day that the FM was a bad deal because they want to make it out of Lego. Not sure how a 3rd party could do anything about it! Don’t want to put you in a difficult situation but if there was any kind of clarity around these issues then fans could get behind a deal or not as the case might be. If it’s not a good deal then it should be communicated out so we don’t end up worse off in the future (not necessarily by you)! Hope you understand what I’m getting at but again thanks for the straight answer! I get what you are saying, but there is so much political wrangling going on at the moment, I wouldn't want to pour fuel on the fire and I don't trust the people involved. Just because its an Internet forum, it still doesn't stop them from potentially trying to sue me for libel or defamation should I post something, that's "my opinion" or "allegedly" the case even if it was true, so I would rather keep schtum for the minute and when the time is right it will all come out. Also, I don't know everything, and don't claim to do so, so rather than maybe telling some of the story, its best we get the full one. Its also not really my position, despite many people thinking that I work for the ALQs and I am their mouthpiece on here!
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Post by oliverhelmet on Jan 21, 2020 12:17:10 GMT
Thanks for the honest answer. Surely you can wildly speculate on anything you like on an Internet forum though? For example my mate Santa told me down the pub the other day that the FM was a bad deal because they want to make it out of Lego. Not sure how a 3rd party could do anything about it! Don’t want to put you in a difficult situation but if there was any kind of clarity around these issues then fans could get behind a deal or not as the case might be. If it’s not a good deal then it should be communicated out so we don’t end up worse off in the future (not necessarily by you)! Hope you understand what I’m getting at but again thanks for the straight answer! I get what you are saying, but there is so much political wrangling going on at the moment, I wouldn't want to pour fuel on the fire and I don't trust the people involved. Just because its an Internet forum, it still doesn't stop them from potentially trying to sue me for libel or defamation should I post something, that's "my opinion" or "allegedly" the case even if it was true, so I would rather keep schtum for the minute and when the time is right it will all come out. Also, I don't know everything, and don't claim to do so, so rather than maybe telling some of the story, its best we get the full one. Its also not really my position, despite many people thinking that I work for the ALQs and I am their mouthpiece on here! Why don’t you open a new account and post it on there.Its all the rage apparently.
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Post by gasify on Jan 21, 2020 12:27:40 GMT
Does this story end with you organising a protest outside to demand that Tesco sign the store over free of charge for a group of concerned customers to manage in future? No, it ends with me no longer shopping at Tesco, because although I can't run a supermarket, I am capable of recognising poor management. Do keep up. Just out of interest: Are there any football fans that are happy with their management and owners?
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Post by Buccaneer on Jan 21, 2020 14:13:29 GMT
I'm amazed our fans at home haven't yet started to sing "sack the board" how much more do we have to put up with from the owners that never communicate with the fans or show any leadership? Whenever a member of the so called board members are interviewed or asked questions (twentyman today for example) we are fed absolute dross. For all the flack Higgs and Dunford took at least they had the decency to regularly communicate with the fans unlike this shower of sh**e. I'll wait for all the happy clippers to shoot me down but I've had enough now we need weal out! I’m not sticking up for the current board when I say this, but exactly the same thing was said about Higgs etc around communication. All Higgs did was release a regular ‘Chairman’s Update’ with no news, just dross. Nothing ever communicated about stadium etc etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 14:52:49 GMT
Thanks for the honest answer. Surely you can wildly speculate on anything you like on an Internet forum though? For example my mate Santa told me down the pub the other day that the FM was a bad deal because they want to make it out of Lego. Not sure how a 3rd party could do anything about it! Don’t want to put you in a difficult situation but if there was any kind of clarity around these issues then fans could get behind a deal or not as the case might be. If it’s not a good deal then it should be communicated out so we don’t end up worse off in the future (not necessarily by you)! Hope you understand what I’m getting at but again thanks for the straight answer! I get what you are saying, but there is so much political wrangling going on at the moment, I wouldn't want to pour fuel on the fire and I don't trust the people involved. Just because its an Internet forum, it still doesn't stop them from potentially trying to sue me for libel or defamation should I post something, that's "my opinion" or "allegedly" the case even if it was true, so I would rather keep schtum for the minute and when the time is right it will all come out. Also, I don't know everything, and don't claim to do so, so rather than maybe telling some of the story, its best we get the full one. Its also not really my position, despite many people thinking that I work for the ALQs and I am their mouthpiece on here! Reading that (and your first reply to Orgasmic) 81 i am not sure any of us want to hear anyway TBH. It sounds a story of greed and egos that has turned very messy. Does not fill me with any confidence that the outcome is in sight.
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Post by orgasmic on Jan 21, 2020 18:57:50 GMT
Thanks for the honest answer. Surely you can wildly speculate on anything you like on an Internet forum though? For example my mate Santa told me down the pub the other day that the FM was a bad deal because they want to make it out of Lego. Not sure how a 3rd party could do anything about it! Don’t want to put you in a difficult situation but if there was any kind of clarity around these issues then fans could get behind a deal or not as the case might be. If it’s not a good deal then it should be communicated out so we don’t end up worse off in the future (not necessarily by you)! Hope you understand what I’m getting at but again thanks for the straight answer! I get what you are saying, but there is so much political wrangling going on at the moment, I wouldn't want to pour fuel on the fire and I don't trust the people involved. Just because its an Internet forum, it still doesn't stop them from potentially trying to sue me for libel or defamation should I post something, that's "my opinion" or "allegedly" the case even if it was true, so I would rather keep schtum for the minute and when the time is right it will all come out. Also, I don't know everything, and don't claim to do so, so rather than maybe telling some of the story, its best we get the full one. Its also not really my position, despite many people thinking that I work for the ALQs and I am their mouthpiece on here! Makes perfect sense. Let’s hope at the end of all this something positive happens!
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Post by completewingback on Jan 22, 2020 4:24:14 GMT
I'm amazed our fans at home haven't yet started to sing "sack the board" how much more do we have to put up with from the owners that never communicate with the fans or show any leadership? Whenever a member of the so called board members are interviewed or asked questions (twentyman today for example) we are fed absolute dross. For all the flack Higgs and Dunford took at least they had the decency to regularly communicate with the fans unlike this shower of sh**e. I'll wait for all the happy clippers to shoot me down but I've had enough now we need weal out! I’m not sticking up for the current board when I say this, but exactly the same thing was said about Higgs etc around communication. All Higgs did was release a regular ‘Chairman’s Update’ with no news, just dross. Nothing ever communicated about stadium etc etc. And boy oh boy did I hate those updates. I honestly can't tell you if we're better off the way we are now
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 4:55:25 GMT
Thanks for the honest answer. Surely you can wildly speculate on anything you like on an Internet forum though? For example my mate Santa told me down the pub the other day that the FM was a bad deal because they want to make it out of Lego. Not sure how a 3rd party could do anything about it! Don’t want to put you in a difficult situation but if there was any kind of clarity around these issues then fans could get behind a deal or not as the case might be. If it’s not a good deal then it should be communicated out so we don’t end up worse off in the future (not necessarily by you)! Hope you understand what I’m getting at but again thanks for the straight answer! I get what you are saying, but there is so much political wrangling going on at the moment, I wouldn't want to pour fuel on the fire and I don't trust the people involved. Just because its an Internet forum, it still doesn't stop them from potentially trying to sue me for libel or defamation should I post something, that's "my opinion" or "allegedly" the case even if it was true, so I would rather keep schtum for the minute and when the time is right it will all come out. Also, I don't know everything, and don't claim to do so, so rather than maybe telling some of the story, its best we get the full one. Its also not really my position, despite many people thinking that I work for the ALQs and I am their mouthpiece on here! I don't understand all this 'political wrangling' going on. Surely there is nobody left to cause any arguments is there? Don't we have a Board that consists of just two people, Wael and Starnes?
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Post by aghast on Jan 22, 2020 7:52:09 GMT
Any more interviews like the last one, and the board will consist of just one member.
It's getting lonely at the top.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 8:20:45 GMT
Could this be Wael in a few months time?
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 22, 2020 8:25:35 GMT
How’s the protest plans coming along, not heard where I need to be yet, on Saturday.
C’mon, if the “EFL Trophy Bestwetters “ can organise a boycott overnight that involves sitting on their arses watching the football on Sky then surely we can oust this board.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2020 8:26:13 GMT
On this thread you said the following: ...” protest against what exactly? An owner covering the huge losses now involved in running a football club? An owner fighting off a group of machiavellian amateurs trying to force a bad deal for the club?” So either you know what that deal is or you are mud slinging? Fair enough I did didn't I! Well, what I know I have mostly posted on the FM thread so I will refer you to that firstly. Its mostly common knowledge too that Hamer and Masters are the architects, or were introduced to Lavaniac and Conygre and between them all they have been trying to arrange the deal. There have been some things I have found out (Not from WAQ before anyone makes another fanboy spokesman allegation) that are quite unbelievable about what they are proposing, and what they will get in exchange for certain things but should I post them, I feel its likely that Hamer and Masters will print that and use it against me in some way as I have received 3rd party threats that they will do so and Gasincider, who is good mates with Masters, also threatened to do with another comment I made here last week. So I am having to be a touch careful about what I write. However if you want to meet me at a game I will happily tell you what I know. Assume there's some truth in that comment seems now we're damned if we do proceed with the FM site and damned if we don't and stick with the ALQ's/Wael, finances wise?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 22, 2020 8:30:50 GMT
I get what you are saying, but there is so much political wrangling going on at the moment, I wouldn't want to pour fuel on the fire and I don't trust the people involved. Just because its an Internet forum, it still doesn't stop them from potentially trying to sue me for libel or defamation should I post something, that's "my opinion" or "allegedly" the case even if it was true, so I would rather keep schtum for the minute and when the time is right it will all come out. Also, I don't know everything, and don't claim to do so, so rather than maybe telling some of the story, its best we get the full one. Its also not really my position, despite many people thinking that I work for the ALQs and I am their mouthpiece on here! Why don’t you open a new account and post it on there.Its all the rage apparently. And join GI incider club. Would rather be dead in a ditch.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 22, 2020 8:32:57 GMT
Could this be Wael in a few months time? I'm going to have to watch the whole movie tonight now. Forggoten how funny it is.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 23, 2020 8:52:48 GMT
Big protests at Old Trafford.Not sure what their fans would make of the Mem? Up here Port Vale's Tom Pope fined and banned for something he said on 'Twitter' and Crewe expect severe punishment after fans threw flares onto the pitch at Macclesfield earlier this week.
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 23, 2020 9:10:49 GMT
Big protests at Old Trafford.Not sure what their fans would make of the Mem? Up here Port Vale's Tom Pope fined and banned for something he said on 'Twitter' and Crewe expect severe punishment after fans threw flares onto the pitch at Macclesfield earlier this week. I`ve kept my flares. They`ll come back into fashion one day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 9:12:28 GMT
Big protests at Old Trafford.Not sure what their fans would make of the Mem? Up here Port Vale's Tom Pope fined and banned for something he said on 'Twitter' and Crewe expect severe punishment after fans threw flares onto the pitch at Macclesfield earlier this week. I`ve kept my flares. They`ll come back into fashion one day. I'm not sure about your Tank Tops though.
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