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Post by bluebiro on Feb 26, 2020 15:43:49 GMT
Had our chance to go up this season in a poor quality division.The big wide world is too scary for some though.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 26, 2020 16:06:15 GMT
No shorter than any other time a manager comes in and goes. DC left and GC was put in charge immediately. If a club A approaches another club B's manager, how long do you think they're in talks for? 6 months while club B finds the right replacement? You obviously know the inner workings of the Club and it's Management recruitment, so I'll leave you to it. Adios. The fact that you had no answer for either of my posts, tells me everything I need to know. Ciao.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Feb 26, 2020 16:47:38 GMT
Had our chance to go up this season in a poor quality division.The big wide world is too scary for some though. Think it’s a bit harsh to say this is a poor quality division. Plenty of bigger and better teams than us who stand a chance of promotion. Rotherham, Cov, Pompey, Ipswich and Sunderland all ex prem teams who should really be championship clubs. Then we’re competing with the money clubs like Peterborough, Fleetwood and oxford. No doubt GC was working miracles, but whether we could have sustained that level I highly doubt. Ipswich was one of the best away games I’ve been too, but certainly a fluke in my mind.
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Post by DrFaustus on Feb 26, 2020 16:53:19 GMT
Stoke Lodge Gas, totally agree, except one thing...Rotherham haven't been in the Premier League.
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 26, 2020 16:57:10 GMT
Appreciate that but it's just the names living of their pasts. Players they have are league one players. Wycombe dont seem to be struggling staying up there and we weren't either. Against IPswich I thought we were looking unbeatable like all teams with a winning mentality. Some on here say it couldn't be sustained but I saw no signs of that on that winters day. Only one thing has changed since that day
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Post by Colyton Gas on Feb 26, 2020 17:17:19 GMT
Never knew Rotherham were in the Prem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refereed my final ever game at their old Millmoor ground.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 26, 2020 17:30:11 GMT
How much was half his foot in the door already? I've no idea what you're on about. He announced he was off within 30 minutes of the end of the Ipswich game didn't he? There is a conspiracy theory that Ben had been lined up before GC had even left and it’s why he was talking about job security a lot before and after he left. I don’t buy it personally. I don’t think many managers have much notice of taking charge anyway so not that it really matters.
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Post by aghast on Feb 26, 2020 18:01:40 GMT
Perhaps GC could have stayed around for a handover period with BG, as happens in many businesses.
It would have been interesting to see GC advising BG on how best to not ever concede a goal, and to score a few by lumping it up to JCH.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 26, 2020 18:48:30 GMT
It would have been interesting to see both GC and BG working together especially with their contrasting philosophies on how the game should be played. I suspect that the partnership would have lasted days.
On the basis of this season, one guy played dour football, acquired lots of points and his team nestled in the promotion play off spots. By contrast, the other advocated a more expansive game and his team slipped steadfastly into the bottom third of the table.
One guy had us at the top of the form table; the other had us near the bottom of the same table.
If BG continues in the same vein we can start dusting down our A-Zs for L2 grounds next Christmas (in preparation for season 2021/2).
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 26, 2020 21:25:22 GMT
What I really don’t understand is GC received ten tonnes of sh** from supporters in the terrace behind him yet BG fails to get results yet comparatively doesn’t get much stick. It genuinely baffles me.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 26, 2020 22:57:18 GMT
How much was half his foot in the door already? I've no idea what you're on about. He announced he was off within 30 minutes of the end of the Ipswich game didn't he? The Board wanted him out. they told him there was no money for transfers in January. Garner had been going to matches 2 weeks before GC left
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Post by lpgas on Feb 26, 2020 22:59:55 GMT
Interesting that under GC it was called lumping it forward or play long ball, and yet at Liverpool they often play with a "long measured pass". It works for them, and it used to work for us
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Post by Somersetgas on Feb 26, 2020 23:07:13 GMT
Interesting that under GC it was called lumping it forward or play long ball, and yet at Liverpool they often play with a "long measured pass". It works for them, and it used to work for us [br What we need is a manager who inspires and gets up and at them, unfortunately he went to Grimsby.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 23:19:06 GMT
What I really don’t understand is GC received ten tonnes of sh** from supporters in the terrace behind him yet BG fails to get results yet comparatively doesn’t get much stick. It genuinely baffles me. I know it goes against the modern trend but plenty of our supporters still fully understand that it does not help the team or the situation by giving garner stick. Same with nichols who would have suffered terrible stick at many other clubs. When i am at a game i do not want to hinder the team but try to help them whatever the situation. So i am amazed that anyone could be baffled?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 27, 2020 0:39:03 GMT
What I really don’t understand is GC received ten tonnes of sh** from supporters in the terrace behind him yet BG fails to get results yet comparatively doesn’t get much stick. It genuinely baffles me. I know it goes against the modern trend but plenty of our supporters still fully understand that it does not help the team or the situation by giving garner stick. Same with nichols who would have suffered terrible stick at many other clubs. When i am at a game i do not want to hinder the team but try to help them whatever the situation. So i am amazed that anyone could be baffled? I'm not saying I give him stick or that I like to see anyone give our players or management stick. I am completely with you, 100%, that I would not want to see people doing so. However, the atmosphere during GCs reign was terrible behind the dugouts and GC was constantly on the end of abuse by some sections of our support and I left games feeling rather down about the situation, because we were doing so well. I could not understand why anyone would want to do it as it is counterproductive as you say. With Ben Garner, I would not want to see him given abuse either, but I am surprised that the people who felt the need to behave that way with a manager who was dragging us up fighting to 4th in the table don't have the same urge with BG who has let us slip all the way back down again and truly given a reason to give the manager abuse. The only explanation I can fathom is that they're happy to see us lose or they're not turning up and they were only there before because we were on the ascendancy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 1:23:07 GMT
I know it goes against the modern trend but plenty of our supporters still fully understand that it does not help the team or the situation by giving garner stick. Same with nichols who would have suffered terrible stick at many other clubs. When i am at a game i do not want to hinder the team but try to help them whatever the situation. So i am amazed that anyone could be baffled? I'm not saying I give him stick or that I like to see anyone give our players or management stick. I am completely with you, 100%, that I would not want to see people doing so. However, the atmosphere during GCs reign was terrible behind the dugouts and GC was constantly on the end of abuse by some sections of our support and I left games feeling rather down about the situation, because we were doing so well. I could not understand why anyone would want to do it as it is counterproductive as you say. With Ben Garner, I would not want to see him given abuse either, but I am surprised that the people who felt the need to behave that way with a manager who was dragging us up fighting to 4th in the table don't have the same urge with BG who has let us slip all the way back down again and truly given a reason to give the manager abuse. The only explanation I can fathom is that they're happy to see us lose or they're not turning up and they were only there before because we were on the ascendancy. Maybe they havnt noticed garner is even there yet? For whatever reason most supporters did not take to coughlan but i just dont get anyone hurling abuse at the dugout.
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Post by althepirate on Feb 27, 2020 6:16:18 GMT
I never thought there would be snobbery at Rovers (never in a million years) but how else can you describe an Irishman who talks straight says 'tick' and not only saves us from relegation but gets us up to fourth the following year. This with a huge burden of bad buys from the previous manager on his back. Compare this to an 'up and coming' young manager with a degree who has coached in the Prem and plays pretty football with 'up and coming' young players yet gets almost 100% continual losses and blames the referee. Why fans support BG and not GC I've no idea, snobbery at the Gas??? Imagine if GC was black perhaps those snobs would be taking a different approach. I wish Ben well but let's give praise where it's due.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 27, 2020 7:42:25 GMT
Interesting that under GC it was called lumping it forward or play long ball, and yet at Liverpool they often play with a "long measured pass". It works for them, and it used to work for us [br What we need is a manager who inspires and gets up and at them, unfortunately he went to Grimsby. I'm beginning to think you are right
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 27, 2020 9:09:47 GMT
I've no idea what you're on about. He announced he was off within 30 minutes of the end of the Ipswich game didn't he? The Board wanted him out. they told him there was no money for transfers in January. Garner had been going to matches 2 weeks before GC left Why did we offer the job to Nathan Jones if we had Garner lined up?
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Post by landrover on Feb 27, 2020 9:26:46 GMT
[br What we need is a manager who inspires and gets up and at them, unfortunately he went to Grimsby. I'm beginning to think you are right I bought this ‘snobbery’ subject up a few weeks back. It’s a modern trend amongst fans that they know more than you about football. Young managers, Garner being a classic example, talk of the project, the system, the high and the low block, the overload! It’s as if they’ve invented the wheel. Football is about players being good enough and if you’ve a team of them then you’ve got a chance. We are a team of automatons with no presence. Give me a centre half that’s up for the battle or a gobby midfield captain.Even a forward that enjoys heading the ball. Like I say, football snobbery is rife on and off the pitch.
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