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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 8, 2020 10:36:22 GMT
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 8, 2020 10:41:49 GMT
Excited for all the big dumb babies to tell us that watching Rovers lose to 3-1 to West Ham's under 23's was worth it.
Class lads.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 8, 2020 10:46:11 GMT
Excited for all the big dumb babies to tell us that watching Rovers lose to 3-1 to West Ham's under 23's was worth it. Class lads. I think that's fairly irrelavent. I think if it happens then Covid would have played a big part in that. Certainly don't think 1000 fans at a game would have made much impact. |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 8, 2020 10:51:09 GMT
Excited for all the big dumb babies to tell us that watching Rovers lose to 3-1 to West Ham's under 23's was worth it. Class lads. I think that's fairly irrelavent. I think if it happens then Covid would have played a big part in that. The EFL has three competitions, the dilution of one opened the backdoor for the dilution of others. The attendance of games in the diluted competition told the EFL people were still happy to buy the product. If B Teams weren't already in an EFL competition this would be harder to push. Of course people will hastily blame Covid when in all honesty the ball started rolling in 2016. |
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Post by Jomo on Oct 8, 2020 10:54:14 GMT
Elite clubs have been waiting for an opportunity like this to really stick the knife in.
Have they not got enough superiority over the lower league clubs already!? What they fail to mention is that the unsustainable nature of the EFL is in no small part down to the imbalance from top to bottom, that is driven by obscene revenues and obscene spending at the top level, which has now filtered down to tier 2, and filtering again down to tiers 3 and 4.
Talking of unsustainability, how the hell can the Premier League clubs sit on top of their high horses and crow about the EFL being unsustainable? Pot. Kettle. Black.
F**king greedy ignorant lady gardens.
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Post by singupgas on Oct 8, 2020 10:59:21 GMT
I would not be interested in watching if we were playing against b teams.
Death of the English football.
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Post by alanrg on Oct 8, 2020 11:11:41 GMT
Typical comment from the Premiership they forget where did Jamie Vardy come from they r clueless
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Post by Jomo on Oct 8, 2020 11:15:11 GMT
In all seriousness, I think we should discuss what we as a fanbase can feasibly do to try to nip this in the bud. Granted it would have to go to a vote between the EFL clubs, but I actually struggle to put into words how strongly opposed I am to this without just f-ing and blinding about it, and I would want us to do whatever we can to ensure that the vote from Bristol Rovers FC is a firm NO.
For me, if it were to happen, I don't think I could bring myself to continue following football. The immorality is absolutely disgusting, of PL clubs first stitching us up with the EPPP, then scrapping emergency loans, then hijacking the Football League Trophy. If that wasn't enough, we now have to listen to the likes of these pricks mooting the possibly of using the demise of lower league clubs in the face of a global pandemic to further their own selfish agendas, by replacing folded EFL clubs with their academies, rather than to actually spread the wealth and help clubs and their communities.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 8, 2020 11:17:14 GMT
In all seriousness, I think we should discuss what we as a fanbase can feasibly do to try to nip this in the bud. Granted it would have to go to a vote between the EFL clubs, but I actually struggle to put into words how strongly opposed I am to this without just f-ing and blinding about it, and I would want us to do whatever we can to ensure that the vote from Bristol Rovers FC is a firm NO. For me, if it were to happen, I don't think I could bring myself to continue following football. The immorality is absolutely disgusting, of PL clubs first stitching us up with the EPPP, then scrapping emergency loans, then hijacking the Football League Trophy. If that wasn't enough, we now have to listen to the likes of these pricks mooting the possibly of using the demise of lower league clubs in the face of a global pandemic to further their own selfish agendas by replacing folded EFL clubs with their academies rather than to actually spread the wealth and help clubs and their communities. We had that conversation in 2016, some people decided they just wanted to watch Rovers and weren't arsed. |
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Post by legas on Oct 8, 2020 11:20:05 GMT
I would not be interested in watching if we were playing against b teams. Death of the English football. Yep, I would probably walk away from it too. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 8, 2020 11:30:38 GMT
No.
UTG!
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Post by LJG on Oct 8, 2020 11:35:28 GMT
In all seriousness, I think we should discuss what we as a fanbase can feasibly do to try to nip this in the bud. Granted it would have to go to a vote between the EFL clubs, but I actually struggle to put into words how strongly opposed I am to this without just f-ing and blinding about it, and I would want us to do whatever we can to ensure that the vote from Bristol Rovers FC is a firm NO. For me, if it were to happen, I don't think I could bring myself to continue following football. The immorality is absolutely disgusting, of PL clubs first stitching us up with the EPPP, then scrapping emergency loans, then hijacking the Football League Trophy. If that wasn't enough, we now have to listen to the likes of these pricks mooting the possibly of using the demise of lower league clubs in the face of a global pandemic to further their own selfish agendas by replacing folded EFL clubs with their academies rather than to actually spread the wealth and help clubs and their communities. We had that conversation in 2016, some people decided they just wanted to watch Rovers and weren't arsed. Exactly - and there are pages and pages of threads to prove it. |
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Post by axegas on Oct 8, 2020 11:35:35 GMT
The thing is these foreign premier league executives and coaches lack a fundamental understanding of the nuances and cultural sensitivities around English football and the affect that introducing these B teams would have on supporters.
Bit of controversial opinion perhaps but I genuinely don't think it comes down to greed, I think it comes down to them thinking "this system works perfectly fine in my country, why on earth hasn't England adopted it yet". When in fact if B teams were introduced into the lower leagues it would make a lot of fixtures non events, push teams like Rovers down the pyramid and take the spotlight away from historic, well supported clubs, which is something supporters in this country really don't want.
I'm just hoping the premier league themselves, show a bit more common sense and stop these calls by the chief executives in their tracks before things start to get ugly.
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Post by Congas on Oct 8, 2020 11:44:34 GMT
All the more reason to build that 20k + stadium and get our asses out of this level. I wonder how many will complain if we do just that and send our youngsters back?
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Post by Westy on Oct 8, 2020 11:47:37 GMT
So basically, Premiership teams get their "B" teams into the EFL, at the same time as League teams are all but out of business, and the next time a "pandemic" comes along, the few remaining local teams that go out of business will be replaced by u18s, and then we will have 4 league tables populated by 20-odd premiership teams and their youth setups.
If I'm reading that correctly, that is.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 8, 2020 11:51:35 GMT
The thing is these foreign premier league executives and coaches lack a fundamental understanding of the nuances and cultural sensitivities around English football and the affect that introducing these B teams would have on supporters. Bit of controversial opinion perhaps but I genuinely don't think it comes down to greed, I think it comes down to them thinking "this system works perfectly fine in my country, why on earth hasn't England adopted it yet". When in fact if B teams were introduced into the lower leagues it would make a lot of fixtures non events, push teams like Rovers down the pyramid and take the spotlight away from historic, well supported clubs, which is something supporters in this country really don't want. I'm just hoping the premier league themselves, show a bit more common sense and stop these calls by the chief executives in their tracks before things start to get ugly. And presumably if it came to pass it would cut down the loans that go from the PL clubs to league 1 and 2 considerably. Not that that would be a worry imo but it would change the dynamics for many lower league clubs. It would also change the integrity of the league’s and the clubs. For example, the B teams wouldn’t be allowed to get promotion as on the continent so that means the matches at the end of the season influencing promotion might raise several questions. Would B teams put out stronger, strongest teams at certain times? Will getting promotion or relegation depend upon when you play those teams? How many PL clubs would have teams. Just the top 6 or more? The more there are the bigger problem imo. Last year with Bolton and Bury made league 1 a disaster of a league. With Southend being so poor it meant that there was only one place up for avoiding. With B teams it would become the norm, never sure about going up or going down. Awful from our perspective. UTG! |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 8, 2020 11:58:36 GMT
I think that's fairly irrelavent. I think if it happens then Covid would have played a big part in that. The EFL has three competitions, the dilution of one opened the backdoor for the dilution of others. The attendance of games in the diluted competition told the EFL people were still happy to buy the product. If B Teams weren't already in an EFL competition this would be harder to push. Of course people will hastily blame Covid when in all honesty the ball started rolling in 2016. I think they would have forced it through regardless. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 8, 2020 11:59:18 GMT
I would not be interested in watching if we were playing against b teams. Death of the English football. Maybe but what if the alternative is completely losing clubs? |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 8, 2020 12:01:08 GMT
The EFL has three competitions, the dilution of one opened the backdoor for the dilution of others. The attendance of games in the diluted competition told the EFL people were still happy to buy the product. If B Teams weren't already in an EFL competition this would be harder to push. Of course people will hastily blame Covid when in all honesty the ball started rolling in 2016. I think they would have forced it through regardless. If you don't leave your door wide open it makes it harder for the burglar to get in. |
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Post by legas on Oct 8, 2020 12:01:43 GMT
All the more reason to build that 20k + stadium and get our asses out of this level. I wonder how many will complain if we do just that and send our youngsters back? I suppose I might feel a bit better about it if we got to the Prem and sent our kids to beat City! |
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