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Post by onedaygas83 on Nov 14, 2020 21:29:14 GMT
What players do you all think are at risk of being ousted when the new manager gets appointed? We've brought in a whole new team but are there any stand out players people feel are looking over their shoulders?
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Post by socrates on Nov 14, 2020 21:30:01 GMT
What players do you all think are at risk of being ousted when the new manager gets appointed? We've brought in a whole new team but are there any stand out players people feel are looking over their shoulders? Totally depends on who the manager is and what he’s looking for. I definitely think any new manager would be looking to sell or loan out a couple of our left backs, bring in some experience to this very young squad and hopefully at least one striker in too.
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Post by wilkimania on Nov 14, 2020 21:31:56 GMT
All eleven who started today? I think the only person who can feel comfortable with their position at the moment is Jaakola. Maybe Hanlaan too because I'm not sure we have another fit central striker.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 14, 2020 21:32:48 GMT
I think its less of a case of risk for any players but more of an opportunity for those who've been frozen out. Most players are new to the squads its not as if we've got an assortment of settled players stealing a living.
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Post by playtowin on Nov 14, 2020 21:46:46 GMT
Most of the players are contracted and are at the club based on them improving over the next year or so. None are at risk currently. Come january some may go out on loan and some of our loan players may go back to their clubs.
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Post by lpgas1 on Nov 15, 2020 0:15:38 GMT
Tutonda. Good going forward, not so good defending. Plus 2 other left / left wing backs. Of course if we play a 4-4-2, I would put him out wide on the left
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Post by markczgas on Nov 15, 2020 0:19:11 GMT
All eleven who started today? I think the only person who can feel comfortable with their position at the moment is Jaakola. Maybe Hanlaan too because I'm not sure we have another fit central striker. give it a break ! the players are good better than we've had for a while. BG unfortunately was a one-trick pony with his tactics.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 15, 2020 0:21:19 GMT
I think its less of a case of risk for any players but more of an opportunity for those who've been frozen out. Most players are new to the squads its not as if we've got an assortment of settled players stealing a living. whose been frozen out ? I can only think of Kilgour to some extent - it's down to BG not being flexible with his approach and leaving substitutions till the tide had turned
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 15, 2020 5:15:02 GMT
If the new manager wants to play four at the back then we will have far too many defenders in the squad. Of course, with so many new singings, you cant just get rid of them.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 15, 2020 8:26:40 GMT
I think its less of a case of risk for any players but more of an opportunity for those who've been frozen out. Most players are new to the squads its not as if we've got an assortment of settled players stealing a living. whose been frozen out ? I can only think of Kilgour to some extent - it's down to BG not being flexible with his approach and leaving substitutions till the tide had turned It’s no secret BG had a penchant for younger players and picked them over experienced pros like Ed Upson and more recently Luke Leahy. Abu Ogogo is one of course - couldn’t find if he went for the season or for the winter. I think a new manager will want a bit more experience in the side as this is something that lets us down right now. The youth idea is great but has been implemented in a rather extreme manner.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 15, 2020 8:44:10 GMT
whose been frozen out ? I can only think of Kilgour to some extent - it's down to BG not being flexible with his approach and leaving substitutions till the tide had turned It’s no secret BG had a penchant for younger players and picked them over experienced pros like Ed Upson and more recently Luke Leahy. Abu Ogogo is one of course - couldn’t find if he went for the season or for the winter. I think a new manager will want a bit more experience in the side as this is something that lets us down right now. The youth idea is great but has been implemented in a rather extreme manner. The problem the new manager will inherit a big squad and wont be able to bring in new players until some others move on. This is more to do with the registration rules rather than finances. If you can bring Ogogo back in January when you can register players, someone will have to leave first and moving on players under contract mid season will be very difficult. I think the players we have are good enough to keep us as a mid table team but we all agree the team needs two or three more experienced players.
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Post by peterparker on Nov 15, 2020 8:48:48 GMT
I dont think there is much wrong with the players we have, other than we probably have too many.
I think they just need a firm hand in charge to inspire them/kick their asses as needed
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 15, 2020 9:01:20 GMT
whose been frozen out ? I can only think of Kilgour to some extent - it's down to BG not being flexible with his approach and leaving substitutions till the tide had turned It’s no secret BG had a penchant for younger players and picked them over experienced pros like Ed Upson and more recently Luke Leahy. Abu Ogogo is one of course - couldn’t find if he went for the season or for the winter. I think a new manager will want a bit more experience in the side as this is something that lets us down right now. The youth idea is great but has been implemented in a rather extreme manner. None of us really know what's gone on with Ogogo, it's odd he was frozen out and that no other league club came in for him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 9:11:10 GMT
whose been frozen out ? I can only think of Kilgour to some extent - it's down to BG not being flexible with his approach and leaving substitutions till the tide had turned It’s no secret BG had a penchant for younger players and picked them over experienced pros like Ed Upson and more recently Luke Leahy. Abu Ogogo is one of course - couldn’t find if he went for the season or for the winter. I think a new manager will want a bit more experience in the side as this is something that lets us down right now. The youth idea is great but has been implemented in a rather extreme manner. EP stated at the time that the loan was until January.
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Post by socrates on Nov 15, 2020 9:14:37 GMT
I dont think there is much wrong with the players we have, other than we probably have too many. I think they just need a firm hand in charge to inspire them/kick their asses as needed 2 left backs out 1 experienced striker in 1 experienced leader ball winning midfielder in. If the new manager does that then we can stay up.
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Post by bluebiro on Nov 15, 2020 9:19:55 GMT
On the plus.may see more of kilgour and Hargreaves
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 15, 2020 9:55:54 GMT
I dont think there is much wrong with the players we have, other than we probably have too many. I think they just need a firm hand in charge to inspire them/kick their asses as needed 2 left backs out 1 experienced striker in 1 experienced leader ball winning midfielder in. If the new manager does that then we can stay up. Never know but we should stay up anyway. We have not lost to a team in the bottom half yet have we?? Obviously we still need to improve the squad in certain areas. We have more lest backs, than striker's! But I wouldn't say we would definitely go down with the current squad. We could easily pick up 4 points from the next two games, as we have been taken points from those sort of games this season.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 15, 2020 11:31:53 GMT
Kilgour has been awful this season and I hope not but have a feeling he is a bang average League 2 centre half and has been over rated-hope I am proved wrong. I think all the players have the ability but would personally like to see Leahy and Kelly out on loan.
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Post by blueridge on Nov 15, 2020 11:33:31 GMT
Most (all) of us were excited at the summer recruitment, but none of these players have delivered consistently their so called potential since being signed. Garner and Widdrington take ultimate responsibility for the signings but are they actually good enough? Most seem to agree that we have the basis of a side capable of competing at this level - the evidence at the moment suggests otherwise. There was no moral fibre, or commitment in that display yesterday- arguably one of the worst first half displays ever seen at the Mem and that's saying something. How Widdrington is seen as odds on favourite by the bookies to be the next manager is beyond comprehension to me. Hanlon, Westbrooke & Nicholson (maybe Daly) - clearly have much to offer in the right set up - but the rest of the signings to me, (with the exception of players to early to judge at the moment) look average or below at best. Permanent signings, Ehmer, Baldwin, Harries, Grant and Barrett - not good enough imo - but we're stuck with them for a long while yet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 11:36:01 GMT
Kilgour has been awful this season and I hope not but have a feeling he is a bang average League 2 centre half and has been over rated-hope I am proved wrong. I think all the players have the ability but would personally like to see Leahy and Kelly out on loan. Average league 2 may be a bit harsh but I didn’t ever think he’s the potential star that some thought.
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