Who leaves?

Michael Kelly would be the obvious candidate, not featured at all so far this season. Cameron Hargreaves has barely got a look in either so it might be best for him if he gets some game time out on loan.

I really hope that Ogogo is recalled in January, an obvious upgrade over Upson and Grant and would bring the sort of energy and determination that is needed in a relegation scrap.

Tutonda Hargreaves Kelly Barrett liddle Rodman Davies walker little maybe a few others . I don't see us having a problem reducing our squad . The problem is how quick ? How much ? When ?

We need two strikers asap..

Nobody will want them, on the other hand Nicholson, Daley and Jaakkola would fetch money.

How long as Leahy got left on his contract?

He needs to go imo and especially if we play a 4-4-2. Can't defend to save his life.

Upson, Barrett, Bennett, Harries and Kelly id get rid of Grant and Westbrooke too if it was possible but that won't happen.

I would also bring Ogogo back even for just character in the dressing room.

This is the post i agree with. I'd also get rid of the Dutch goalkeeper. With regards to bringing others back forget it. They left for a reason and only Clarke - Harris has gone on to a higher club. 

I never understand this approach, people wanting a "coach" based on nothing other that he popped a few in during his career...

At the end of the day, if we can't send loans back, if no one wants to sign our players for a fee or even for free or even on loan then we are stuck with what we have. We will only be able to bring in U21 players which won't fit the 'experience' or 'leader' that will be needed to get us out of this mess.

If we want experience and leaders then we need to somehow let players go. If we want a striker or 2 (and I am sure we don't anymore youngsters now) then we need to somehow let players go.

There’s another point of view here I would like people to consider.

This team are very green and inexperienced but many say they can see the technical ability.

Like any job, once you’ve done a week it’s all new. Once you’ve done it a month, it’s less new. 3 months in, and you’re getting to know it better.

There is a good chance some of these players will go on a curve upwards once they have 20 games under their belt.

I think we definitely need experience but crucially, some physicality. We are too small and weak as a team. Hanlan is our “big guy” in the opponents part of the pitch, and he isn’t a “big guy”

The most notable thing I’ve noticed all year is that the opposition can play the ball to their strikers and advanced midfield players, and 2 of them can hold off 5 of ours while their midfield and wing backs catch up the play.

Conversely, as soon as we face somewhat of an organised defence, we cannot play through them, because all our players cannot hold off anyone. We can only ever look good in a breakaway or with space to run at them and play.

I am not sure it’s experience we lack, I think it’s physicality. That often comes with your late 20s as a footballer.

2 strong strikers, and 2 physically strong midfields for me. I think you’ll see a massive difference with just one or 2 people in forward positions who can hold players off and give what we DO have - players who can use the ball, a chance to get their head up and pick some passes.

Bottom line for me is we aren’t poor because we lack experience per se (although it’s a factor), we are weak because our young players can’t compete with guys 5-10 years older and a stone or more stronger.

Probably not, so sadly this whole thread seems a bit moot to me.

Let’s look at the evidence: the sheer number of players we have on our books must surely indicate we are somewhere near the limit of our budget. I’ll be flabbergasted if we don’t need to let players go to bring some in. Unless our league table improves who will want players who, at the very least, are out of form playing for a team in relegation trouble?

Tisdale probably has to try and turn this lot into winners somehow. The only possible wriggle room I can see is maybe de-registering some, bringing Ogogo back (if legally allowed) and recalling the youth players from loan because in their short cameos (particularly the Cheltenham game) they showed hunger and determination and a bit of skill. Daly, Nicholson And Ogogo would be a decent spine. God knows what to do about the defence though, that looked to be absolutely buggered however you slice it.