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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 23, 2021 18:58:27 GMT
By the time a new manager would come in, the window would be shut. It’s not been an easy run of games and we have key player’s out. Even then, we are better off now, than when he took over. One of Oz, Daly or Nicholson will make a bid difference. He’s having to try and cope with a squad that has four left backs and only 2 fit strikers. One of those strikers has never scored a league goal. He needs time, it’s way too early to judge. Problem is he doesn't have time, we've a few months to avoid relegation, possibly less if the season's ended early again. Although why sign Williams and not even start him when we had no recognised RB in the squad. I'm not even sure Ozt is really interested in being here as he seems to have been out for a long time recently, so everything relys on Nicholson getting fit and then remaining fit as things stand. He already said he would not start. It’s unusual for a defender to go straight in a few days after signing. Oz was suffering after rushing back from COVID too quickly. He will make a difference and Daly will. Daly runs the channels, and chases everything. That gets us up the pitch and takes the pressure of the defence and midfield. Is a team game. At the moment we are pushed back as a team.
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Post by twertonboy on Jan 23, 2021 18:58:31 GMT
So everyone is pinning their hopes on a loanie and a injury prone player to win us the games??
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 23, 2021 19:02:39 GMT
So everyone is pinning their hopes on a loanie and a injury prone player to win us the games?? We just lost to a team who had won 5 in a row and before that a team that were unbeaten in 7 or 8. Not exactly easy games. We are missing 3 attacking players, not one. One of the 3 back will make a difference. It was Garner that left us short of attacking players. We are ok for left backs though. Not really PT fault that the squad is so unbalanced.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 19:03:03 GMT
I think it’s easy to click the “someone else” option but the reality is, whoever comes in has to work with this squad. Only the last two games where Tisdale has lined up super defensively have I questioned his decision making, up until the FA Cup game I don’t think anyone had too many complaints with Tisdale at the helm. We just need Ozzy and Nicholson back plus a new striker and it will make a big difference, I’m confident about that. Give Tisdale a bit of time to shape the squad to his liking and I think we’ll see a much different Rovers side to the one currently. Sums it up perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 19:21:09 GMT
Bearing in mind that sacking PT would cost another big wedge. Which would at least be better spent on a player. Good shout, and the new manager would still have the same players... ....and the same head of recruitment
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 19:26:17 GMT
I think it’s easy to click the “someone else” option but the reality is, whoever comes in has to work with this squad. Only the last two games where Tisdale has lined up super defensively have I questioned his decision making, up until the FA Cup game I don’t think anyone had too many complaints with Tisdale at the helm. We just need Ozzy and Nicholson back plus a new striker and it will make a big difference, I’m confident about that. Give Tisdale a bit of time to shape the squad to his liking and I think we’ll see a much different Rovers side to the one currently. It all feels like when Alan Gow got injured though, one decent player in the squad and we were relying on him to keep us up until he got injured. Nicholson and Daly have been unreliable from day one, they’re allowed to be injured, of course, but it’s classic relegation stuff when your best players have spent a fair chunk of the season unavailable to us. It’s last chance saloon time for Wael now. I’m not sure how the salary cap stuff works I must admit and how much wriggle room he has to make changes. We need a Higgsy-esque squad transfusion right now. Garner and golden bollocks Widdrington have f**ked it right up, between them.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2021 19:26:22 GMT
So everyone is pinning their hopes on a loanie and a injury prone player to win us the games?? We just lost to a team who had won 5 in a row and before that a team that were unbeaten in 7 or 8. Not exactly easy games. We are missing 3 attacking players, not one. One of the 3 back will make a difference. It was Garner that left us short of attacking players. We are ok for left backs though. Not really PT fault that the squad is so unbalanced. What's the betting you were telling us all that BG would turn things around just before he was sacked? It'll take some turn around now if PT stops the rot on the back of two players returning from injury and a January signing or two. As far as Ozt I can't understand how he can play the full game v Blackpool then relapse and then be out for the best part of a month due to COVID, if he only lasted 60 minutes or so v Blackpool it would make more sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 19:30:45 GMT
Tisdale’s interviews he’s still saying we played well In previous two games and should have won them? And still saying he’s learning what his players are like! Come on seriously playing that team today and last game what did he expect??? I’m struggling to listen to his interviews now and to me the players looked lost and faith gone The big difference for me is that Tisdale will undoubtedly be trying to keep some confidence in the squad. He isn’t an idiot, Garner however was an idiot (in managerial terms at least). As much as we want Tisdale to tell it how it is right now we’re getting to the crunch time and he needs to bolster what little confidence the players have. I dunno, as much as I’d rather have Tisdale over Garner we knew Tisdale’s record at this level wasn’t the best. Can’t help but think we’ve been preparing for league 2 since Garner left. It’s just an amateur set up all across the board and we’re reaping the “rewards” of thinking we knew better than to hire a man with no managerial experience.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2021 19:32:44 GMT
I think it’s easy to click the “someone else” option but the reality is, whoever comes in has to work with this squad. Only the last two games where Tisdale has lined up super defensively have I questioned his decision making, up until the FA Cup game I don’t think anyone had too many complaints with Tisdale at the helm. We just need Ozzy and Nicholson back plus a new striker and it will make a big difference, I’m confident about that. Give Tisdale a bit of time to shape the squad to his liking and I think we’ll see a much different Rovers side to the one currently. It all feels like when Alan Gow got injured though, one decent player in the squad and we were relying on him to keep us up until he got injured. Nicholson and Daly have been unreliable from day one, they’re allowed to be injured, of course, but it’s classic relegation stuff when your best players have spent a fair chunk of the season unavailable to us. It’s last chance saloon time for Wael now. I’m not sure how the salary cap stuff works I must admit and how much wriggle room he has to make changes. We need a Higgsy-esque squad transfusion right now. Garner and golden bollocks Widdrington have f**ked it right up, between them. The salary cap really seems irrelevant as it appears we can just stick players in the stands to free up places/salary should we need to, it's really all down to how deep Wael's is prepared to dip into his wallet this month. Although perhaps one day we need to stop firefighting and accept that we're really an L2 set up and just live within our means. If we do it looks like Weal's spent £m's building a white elephant at the Quarters. I'm not sure what goes on there as it's not showing on match days!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 19:32:52 GMT
We just lost to a team who had won 5 in a row and before that a team that were unbeaten in 7 or 8. Not exactly easy games. We are missing 3 attacking players, not one. One of the 3 back will make a difference. It was Garner that left us short of attacking players. We are ok for left backs though. Not really PT fault that the squad is so unbalanced. What's the betting you were telling us all that BG would turn things around just before he was sacked? It'll take some turn around now if PT stops the rot on the back of two players returning from injury and a January signing or two. As far as Ozt I can't understand how he can play the full game v Blackpool then relapse and then be out for the best part of a month due to COVID, if he only lasted 60 minutes or so v Blackpool it would make more sense. Do some research and read about long covid, people having had it feeling as fit as a fiddle one week and then the next, absolutely whacked. Who are you to say it does not make sense?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2021 19:39:00 GMT
Tisdale’s interviews he’s still saying we played well In previous two games and should have won them? And still saying he’s learning what his players are like! Come on seriously playing that team today and last game what did he expect??? I’m struggling to listen to his interviews now and to me the players looked lost and faith gone The big difference for me is that Tisdale will undoubtedly be trying to keep some confidence in the squad. He isn’t an idiot, Garner however was an idiot (in managerial terms at least). As much as we want Tisdale to tell it how it is right now we’re getting to the crunch time and he needs to bolster what little confidence the players have. I dunno, as much as I’d rather have Tisdale over Garner we knew Tisdale’s record at this level wasn’t the best. Can’t help but think we’ve been preparing for league 2 since Garner left. It’s just an amateur set up all across the board and we’re reaping the “rewards” of thinking we knew better than to hire a man with no managerial experience. Why's it "amateur" ignoring the Mem the whole set up is light years ahead of the Higgs era, decent training facilities, coaches, medical staff, etc Given that we've no crowds this season I doubt the day to day set up for players must be similar at most L1 clubs, apart from the likes of Sunderland and Ipswich, do Peterborough and Lincoln have better training facilities etc?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 23, 2021 19:40:50 GMT
We just lost to a team who had won 5 in a row and before that a team that were unbeaten in 7 or 8. Not exactly easy games. We are missing 3 attacking players, not one. One of the 3 back will make a difference. It was Garner that left us short of attacking players. We are ok for left backs though. Not really PT fault that the squad is so unbalanced. What's the betting you were telling us all that BG would turn things around just before he was sacked? It'll take some turn around now if PT stops the rot on the back of two players returning from injury and a January signing or two. As far as Ozt I can't understand how he can play the full game v Blackpool then relapse and then be out for the best part of a month due to COVID, if he only lasted 60 minutes or so v Blackpool it would make more sense. You obviously never watch the news then😂. One key player can make a big difference to a side, let alone 2 or 3. It can change the whole shape and how a team play. Were you not talking about a play of push a few weeks ago. You’re very up and down. Football can change quickly. We have been on a bad run without key players. But we played an Oxford team that had won 5 in a row, a Crewe team that are unbeaten in about 8 games, a premier league team and Charlton. As bad as we have been, we are not in the bottom four, where we were when he took over. The Rochdale game is a massive one. Can’t see us getting anything against Peterborough, who have the best home record in the league . Although football can be a funny game.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2021 19:52:45 GMT
What's the betting you were telling us all that BG would turn things around just before he was sacked? It'll take some turn around now if PT stops the rot on the back of two players returning from injury and a January signing or two. As far as Ozt I can't understand how he can play the full game v Blackpool then relapse and then be out for the best part of a month due to COVID, if he only lasted 60 minutes or so v Blackpool it would make more sense. Do some research and read about long covid, people having had it feeling as fit as a fiddle one week and then the next, absolutely whacked. Who are you to say it does not make sense? It doesn't make sense to play a full 90 minutes then be out for a month, I'm not aware of any pro footballer who's done anything similar, I'm happy to be educated if there has been another one.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 23, 2021 19:56:17 GMT
I'm not getting the knives out but here are a bunch of long pointy metal things with wooden handles and sharpened edges. Pick axe A racing car from the thirties.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 20:05:18 GMT
Do some research and read about long covid, people having had it feeling as fit as a fiddle one week and then the next, absolutely whacked. Who are you to say it does not make sense? It doesn't make sense to play a full 90 minutes then be out for a month, I'm not aware of any pro footballer who's done anything similar, I'm happy to be educated if there has been another one. I will leave you to do the research on all footballers who have had covid and how they have recovered etc etc etc. In fact you will probably struggle to find the names of most who have had the virus, confidentiality laws etc. Good luck with that! Good luck with that!
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Post by socrates on Jan 23, 2021 20:31:19 GMT
A racing car from the thirties. If you do it at night in a quiet area nobody will know. It’ll look like a hit and run.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 23, 2021 20:39:24 GMT
Bearing in mind that sacking PT would cost another big wedge. Which would at least be better spent on a player. But if it kept us in the division it would be small change by comparison.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2021 20:43:35 GMT
It doesn't make sense to play a full 90 minutes then be out for a month, I'm not aware of any pro footballer who's done anything similar, I'm happy to be educated if there has been another one. I will leave you to do the research on all footballers who have had covid and how they have recovered etc etc etc. In fact you will probably struggle to find the names of most who have had the virus, confidentiality laws etc. Good luck with that! Good luck with that! Plenty have been named, I'm certain the Newcastle players suffering long term haven't returned and played 90 minutes before disappearing again.
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Post by theduke on Jan 23, 2021 20:43:55 GMT
Some of the moaning on this forum is bordering on the hysterical. Tisdale has only been here for 5 minutes. Give the bloke a chance. Christ, even Garner got a year despite hardly winning a game during that time.
Aside from Nicholson, the squad is low on quality and completely unbalanced. It's going to take time to sort the mess he inherited out. The squad is crying out for a target man up top and so far the only new arrival has been an MK Dons reserve defender yesterday. Clearly there are issues in the recruitment department that need to be addressed.
All this being said, I'm not happy with our lineups over the past couple of games and would like to see changes. I don't expect anything from Peterborough, but let's see where we go after that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 20:48:43 GMT
It all feels like when Alan Gow got injured though, one decent player in the squad and we were relying on him to keep us up until he got injured. Nicholson and Daly have been unreliable from day one, they’re allowed to be injured, of course, but it’s classic relegation stuff when your best players have spent a fair chunk of the season unavailable to us. It’s last chance saloon time for Wael now. I’m not sure how the salary cap stuff works I must admit and how much wriggle room he has to make changes. We need a Higgsy-esque squad transfusion right now. Garner and golden bollocks Widdrington have f**ked it right up, between them. The salary cap really seems irrelevant as it appears we can just stick players in the stands to free up places/salary should we need to, it's really all down to how deep Wael's is prepared to dip into his wallet this month. Although perhaps one day we need to stop firefighting and accept that we're really an L2 set up and just live within our means. If we do it looks like Weal's spent £m's building a white elephant at the Quarters. I'm not sure what goes on there as it's not showing on match days! As per my comments in the match day thread we have a real lack of nous at the club. From the upper management down to the manager and players. We constantly have to throw more and more money at it because we don’t have people at the club that can consistently maximise the return on our investment. I’m saying that specifically with the likes of Accrington in mind. With our current set up it beggars belief we thought we could operate a mostly youth policy. Ffs it was totally daft to think all we had to do was get a poxy youth coach in and give him the manager’s job and then get Widdrington to search out a mixture of youth and Isthmian premier players and just like that we’d be able to at least compete if not be up there for promotion. Where we are in the table is not an accident, it’s design. So to nip topic of this thread in the bud, it’s absolutely Garner and Widdrington’s fault. Tisdale was a poor replacement with seemingly no interview process conducted. He’s out of touch and basically everything the MK Dons fans and Exeter fans warned us about. BUT, he didn’t assemble this God awful team. Garner’s record suggests we would be doing even worse if he was still here and insulting the fan’s intelligence while he was at it. God, what a mess we are in. At this point I’d back another change in manager but I have no confidence in Wael, Starnes or Widdrington to appoint the sort of character we need right now. Fair to play to Wael for bankrolling us, especially during the pandemic, but I’m so fed up of the football “brains” at the club.
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