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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Feb 3, 2021 16:29:46 GMT
Amazing that people would even consider playing Alfie saturday. He was awful last night and possible even worse than Ehmer. Personally I think he is League 2 standard at best MOST of the time at the moment. He looks in a daze half of the time and has just kept losing his man all season. I think both him and Ehmer should be dropped Saturday and make Baldwin captain with either Little or Grant alongside him to add a little bit of pace to the back four. Kilgour was awful last night but he wasnt alone, I didn't notice you claiming he was league 2 standard last season. He's a young lad in his 2nd full season being badly let down by the 'experienced' players around him. I wouldn't play Ehmer on Sat but bar Baldwin who else plays there ? Harries hasn't shown hes any better, Little is a right back who has barely played for weeks and Grant supposedly struggled as a centre back in the league below ours.
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Post by lpgas1 on Feb 3, 2021 16:31:07 GMT
Tommy Widdrington needs binning off. and Starmer
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Post by oldgas on Feb 3, 2021 16:31:45 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now. The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve. So whats the solution? Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO. Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties. TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation. Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem. Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach. All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess. The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now. ouvesaid. Tisdale was a backward step and I just knew the board would make the big mistake of signing him. If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role. If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either. Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution. I agree with all you’ve said. I just knew the board would make the huge mistake of employing him. I’m sure they had him all lined up before they sacked Garner. Stupendous incompetence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 16:32:29 GMT
Tommy Widdrington needs binning off. and Starmer Who?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 16:34:49 GMT
The current leader of the Labour Party but not quite sure what that has to do with the price of eggs.
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Post by fanatical on Feb 3, 2021 16:35:49 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now. The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve. So whats the solution? Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO. Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties. TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation. Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem. Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach. All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess. The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now. If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role. If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either. Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution. A very well thought out summary and one in which a true Gashead could hardly argue with. However, in all of the above, nowhere have you mentioned the part the owner(s) have to play in the future scenario. I do wonder who makes the ultimate decision in your business (garage/showroom)? I would hope that it is you because ultimately it is your money and your reputation at risk. As far as the Gas goes surely you would expect Wael Al-Qadi to have the last word and therefore he should take the accolades or opposite. Certainly. in the past Geoff, and before him Denis Dunford never shirked their responsibility. And latterly Nick Higgs always was prepared to stick his head in the firing line - good on him! As for changes, it has to come down to Wael Al-Qadi because, as you say, it is his money on the line - good luck to him.
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Post by lpgas1 on Feb 3, 2021 16:35:58 GMT
Starnes ( I was thinking of him and the Labour leader at the same time...both useless)
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Post by dukegas on Feb 3, 2021 16:47:42 GMT
It was bad enough playing in a league below Yeovil, the thought of us playing in a league below Forest Green and Cheltenham is unimaginable but highly likely, it’s great fun being a Gas head.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 18:06:49 GMT
Starnes ( I was thinking of him and the Labour leader at the same time...both useless) Or you just put Starnes and Hamer together. Again both useless however.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 3, 2021 18:27:13 GMT
The Groundsman gets great reviews. Put him in charge of the team and give the CEO job to the safety officer. I can 100% guarantee they will do better than the current incumbents
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Post by henry on Feb 3, 2021 22:39:23 GMT
I think the trio you have named as an alternative to take us forward may well be the cause for the loss of the dressing room, if that is the case. This resembles the Trollope sacking and certain players just going through the motions in the cause of Stewart Campbell who thought he had been promised the job. Whatever the reason, it should be made loud and clear to the players and anyone else with ideas above their station that Tisdale is here to stay and they should start earning their wages and get us out of the mess Wael, Starnes, Widderington and Garner have landed us in.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 4, 2021 1:08:18 GMT
I think the trio you have named as an alternative to take us forward may well be the cause for the loss of the dressing room, if that is the case. This resembles the Trollope sacking and certain players just going through the motions in the cause of Stewart Campbell who thought he had been promised the job. Whatever the reason, it should be made loud and clear to the players and anyone else with ideas above their station that Tisdale is here to stay and they should start earning their wages and get us out of the mess Wael, Starnes, Widderington and Garner have landed us in. My god if Tisdale is the answer then it’s been a pretty ugly question. The only benefit of having Paul in charge is that he does have conference experience so should ok the season after next
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Post by henry on Feb 4, 2021 4:14:45 GMT
I think the trio you have named as an alternative to take us forward may well be the cause for the loss of the dressing room, if that is the case. This resembles the Trollope sacking and certain players just going through the motions in the cause of Stewart Campbell who thought he had been promised the job. Whatever the reason, it should be made loud and clear to the players and anyone else with ideas above their station that Tisdale is here to stay and they should start earning their wages and get us out of the mess Wael, Starnes, Widderington and Garner have landed us in. My god if Tisdale is the answer then it’s been a pretty ugly question. The only benefit of having Paul in charge is that he does have conference experience so should ok the season after next Did you say that after the turnaround of results when he first came and after the Peterborough game? I can’t believe the support for the managerial suggestion by the OP! They have no experience of anything to note and with the suggestion of Byron as defensive coach! All you need to add to that dream team is Tom Nichols as striker coach and project failure is well and truly complete.
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Post by brfcdan90 on Feb 4, 2021 5:18:06 GMT
Might as well ask Mansell to put his boots on whilst he is at it we are desperately lacking on field leadership
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 4, 2021 8:40:42 GMT
My god if Tisdale is the answer then it’s been a pretty ugly question. The only benefit of having Paul in charge is that he does have conference experience so should ok the season after next Did you say that after the turnaround of results when he first came and after the Peterborough game? I can’t believe the support for the managerial suggestion by the OP! They have no experience of anything to note and with the suggestion of Byron as defensive coach! All you need to add to that dream team is Tom Nichols as striker coach and project failure is well and truly complete. Yes if you read my posts from day one I’ve consistently stated that Tisdales appointment was a poor one. Nothing against him but his record in the third Division speaks for itself over many years. Like I’ve said before I don’t blame him for jumping at the chance to sign a contact here for two and half years, I bet he couldn’t believe his luck.The fault lies at the top with Starnes. It was a lazy appointment and Starnes needs to explain himself to the fans
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 8:57:47 GMT
The original poster makes no mention of Mesure our assistant Manager and Maher first team coach. I would suggest the cheapest option is to sack those two who our both common denominators of the Garner era and elevate Mansell and Hargreaves in their places. Tisdale I would suggest would cost far more to pay off and in my opinion must be given a fair chance of clearing the deadwood from this squad and Hargreaves and Mansell can then use there undoubted experience in helping to change the mindset of the players on and off the pitch.
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 4, 2021 9:27:08 GMT
The original poster makes no mention of Mesure our assistant Manager and Maher first team coach. I would suggest the cheapest option is to sack those two who our both common denominators of the Garner era and elevate Mansell and Hargreaves in their places. Tisdale I would suggest would cost far more to pay off and in my opinion must be given a fair chance of clearing the deadwood from this squad and Hargreaves and Mansell can then use there undoubted experience in helping to change the mindset of the players on and off the pitch. Maher was here under GC and Mesure came in the summer
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Post by GasAttacK on Feb 4, 2021 9:27:14 GMT
We can't change the players now so we've somehow got to get them playing better. We need a defensive coach. Someone like Tillson or Coughlan.
I would think Tillson is a more viable option.
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Post by Jomo on Feb 4, 2021 10:19:33 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now. The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve. So whats the solution? Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO. Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties. TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation. Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem. Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach. All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess. The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now. If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role. If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either. Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution. A very well thought out summary and one in which a true Gashead could hardly argue with. However, in all of the above, nowhere have you mentioned the part the owner(s) have to play in the future scenario. I do wonder who makes the ultimate decision in your business (garage/showroom)? I would hope that it is you because ultimately it is your money and your reputation at risk. As far as the Gas goes surely you would expect Wael Al-Qadi to have the last word and therefore he should take the accolades or opposite. Certainly. in the past Geoff, and before him Denis Dunford never shirked their responsibility. And latterly Nick Higgs always was prepared to stick his head in the firing line - good on him! As for changes, it has to come down to Wael Al-Qadi because, as you say, it is his money on the line - good luck to him. Ah, in these times of uncertainty and difficulty, like the sun rising in the morning, we can always rely on fanatical to post anti-Wael sentiments on Gaschat.
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Post by gregsy on Feb 4, 2021 10:20:35 GMT
The whole calling out for a defensive coach confuses me a bit, by that I'm saying I'm not sure if we need one or not....
We've got some really experienced players at the back, who are after all fully paid up professional footballers. Do we really have to employ someone to tell them how to not let the ball bounce, how to mark a player, how you shouldn't allow the opposition to cross the ball, how to boot a football up the pitch etc....
All of the errors they should all be well aware of....
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