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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 3, 2021 10:26:08 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now.
The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve.
So whats the solution?
Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO.
Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties.
TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation.
Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem.
Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach.
All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess.
The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now.
If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role.
If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either.
Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution.
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Post by hardingegas on Feb 3, 2021 11:08:44 GMT
Sounds a good idea in principle. We might see more animation from the bench as well - at the moment it seems deathly silent with no one barking out orders as if they're all resigned to things going wrong.
The only reservation I have is that Mansell hasn't managed above youth level and I'm not sure what Byron's role is at Rovers at the moment.
Hargreaves has the most experience though and has been here a number of years.
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Post by LJG on Feb 3, 2021 11:11:02 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now. The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve. So whats the solution? Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO. Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties. TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation. Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem. Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach. All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess. The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now. If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role. If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either. Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution. I think part of DC's success was the three man team of him Stewie and Yatesy so not a completely bonkers idea. |
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Post by bigal40 on Feb 3, 2021 11:13:00 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now. The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve. So whats the solution? Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO. Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties. TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation. Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem. Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach. All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess. The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now. If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role. If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either. Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution. Fantastic Post. Couldn't agree more on the comments about Tisdale. Has to go now !! |
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Post by Gassy on Feb 3, 2021 11:15:58 GMT
Something doesn’t sit nicely with me about TW being involved in performances, but I do understand the logic.
I’d be willing to give this a go, on the basis that TW is gone in the summer and we rebuild our backroom staff again.
Clearly it isn’t working. (Keep Mansell, Hargreaves & Byron)
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Post by Jomo on Feb 3, 2021 11:16:03 GMT
I tend to agree, as much as it pains me to say it, as I was in favour of the appointment and felt it was a good fit. He still might turn it around, but the evidence for that is hard to find after last night's shambles, and the bizarre fluctuations in selections and tactics lately.
After last night I'll be honest and say I don't plan to waste any more time and money purchasing match passes any time soon. If the team aren't able to prepare for matches adequately, then I'm not prepared to be subjected to paying to watch their shoddy displays.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 3, 2021 11:18:15 GMT
I tend to agree, as much as it pains me to say it, as I was in favour of the appointment and felt it was a good fit. He still might turn it around, but the evidence for that is hard to find after last night's shambles, and the bizarre fluctuations in selections and tactics lately. After last night I'll be honest and say I don't plan to waste any more time and money purchasing match passes any time soon. If the team aren't able to prepare for matches adequately, then I'm not prepared to be subjected to paying to watch their shoddy displays. Don’t blame you Jomo. I’m lucky/unlucky enough to have a season pass so I’ll continue to watch, but with the fixture congestion atm there is no chance I’d be paying £20 a week to watch this |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 11:18:29 GMT
Tony Adams lives in the Cotswolds, and has said that he would like to be involved in football again at some point. Ask him if he's interested in coaching our defence for a couple of days a week.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 3, 2021 11:18:54 GMT
I would get rid of TW before getting rid of PT. I feel like we're blaming the waiter for the sh**e food.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Feb 3, 2021 11:19:07 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now. The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve. So whats the solution? Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO. Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties. TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation. Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem. Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach. All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess. The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now. If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role. If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either. Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution. You've got to like his hats though |
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 3, 2021 11:20:06 GMT
Perhaps we need to look at the coaches. They seem to be getting away with the flak.if they are the ones who spend time with the players on the training ground is it them who need looking at and removing from the picture. The bench on matchday seems to overflow with invisible men in tracksuits. A whittling of them may help
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 3, 2021 11:21:20 GMT
Tommy Widdrington needs binning off.
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Post by Rod1883 on Feb 3, 2021 11:21:38 GMT
Tony Adams lives in the Cotswolds, and has said that he would like to be involved in football again at some point. Ask him if he's interested in coaching our defence for a couple of days a week. ..Maybe he could play - he can't be worse than Ehmer |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 11:24:45 GMT
I would get rid of TW before getting rid of PT. I feel like we're blaming the waiter for the sh**e food. I agree with you AF. You can't stop a house falling down by continually replacing the roof, at some stage you need to rebuild the foundations. We constantly get this wrong at Rovers by looking for the quick fix and just maybe Tisdale has rocked the foundations and some within don't like it. |
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Post by axegas on Feb 3, 2021 11:25:03 GMT
I would get rid of TW before getting rid of PT. I feel like we're blaming the waiter for the sh**e food. To be fair the previous waiter did ask for it to be sh**e, then spat on it as it was about to be served. |
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Post by hardingegas on Feb 3, 2021 11:29:30 GMT
Tony Adams as defence coach with Sol Campbell player-manager! 😂
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 11:31:11 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now. The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve. So whats the solution? Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO. Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties. TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation. Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem. Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach. All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess. The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now. If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role. If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either. Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution. If Tisdale does go then I think your way forward is the only sensible option. I also wonder if this current mishmash of a coaching set-up with one coach being a BG man, another appointed by former manager and yet another a Tisdale man is actually gelling and giving consistent messages to players. The coaches don't seem to be a united team and I don't think that helps. But change will cost Wael a lot of money. |
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Post by TAGas on Feb 3, 2021 11:32:30 GMT
Perhaps we need to look at the coaches. They seem to be getting away with the flak.if they are the ones who spend time with the players on the training ground is it them who need looking at and removing from the picture. The bench on matchday seems to overflow with invisible men in tracksuits. A whittling of them may help This exactly. What hasn't changed since BG has left? The back room staff, mesure, maher and Mansell maybe they are the problem. They are with the players in training. If Tisdal does go which I believe he won't then the lot of them should go. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 11:33:19 GMT
I havent commented on anything last night because I only have negative things to say. I havent made it any secret of my dislike for Tisdale, his ways, management or selection. I wasn't in favour of his appointment for all the reasons being discussed now. The simple facts are, regardless of the transfer policy and who is responsible at board level for it, is that we are fundamentally worse under Tisdale than under Garner, something that was pretty hard to achieve. So whats the solution? Firstly we do need to dispense with Tisdales services, absolutely no brainer decision IMO. Secondly I would create a 3 man management team until the end of the season comprising of Widdrington, Mansell and Hargreaves with Byron Anthoney stepping up to first team coaching duties. TW has scouted these players and played a huge role in their signing, so he should know what their absolute strengths are and know the best tactics in which to employ. He would be resonsible for team selection and formation. Mansell is an experienced pro as well as a captain and now an experienced coach, he knows how to unite a dressing room and lead a team on a field and give a voice to the squad. Hes also dragged this club up from the doldrums of non league and knows what we are about. None of the existing players or management can relate to the fans like he can so he can impart exactly what that means to us in our absence from the mem. Hargreaves is a discipliarian, an experienced manager, respected amongst our U23s who has done a marvelous job in breeding some home grown players so clearly has an ability to motivate and coach. All 3 of them are responsible for the in game decisions, a collective resposibility where egos are put to one side for the benefit of the team where each one can bring something to the table to get us out of this mess. The U23s can be looked after by Paranello for now. If we go down at least we have the opportunity to go down fighting and not in the weak way we are currently going under a man who would rather write articles for the daily mail on how to be a great manager but is totally inept in his own role. If we dont change something, we are going down with a wimper and I'm not sure I can watch another minute of us either. Rather than be negative, what do you see as a viable solution. But change will cost Wael a lot of money. That's one of the joys of running your own business, you have to pay for making mistakes. |
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Post by Jomo on Feb 3, 2021 11:35:54 GMT
Come to think of it, when was our last successful external appointment? I wanted an internal appointment when GC left in order to maintain continuity, but the board went with BG, which I obviously wanted to work but sadly it was a car crash. I think the damage was too heavy and I think Tisdale is proving to be incapable of turning it around.
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