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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 17:29:13 GMT
The manager gives the brief on the kind of players he wants. Tommy then uses his scouting team, network and analysis database to give a list of players that fits that brief. The manager then chooses which of those players to go for and then Widdrington tries to negotiate to get them with the board finally sanctioning wages and fees? It’s not the manager (which is the historical way things were done, it’s the whole team - Manager, DoF/Head of recruitment and the board.... Do you really believe what you post? Plus, we are getting rid of managers faster that the scouts can find players to suit. And if I am wrong, maybe you could grace me with your reasons why? Give some evidence or explanation rather than just do your usual of say no you’re wrong, not back it up and then ignore all the questions put your way?
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Post by warwickgas on Feb 14, 2021 17:29:50 GMT
Oxfords game currently held up due to a fire in the dressing rooms
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 14, 2021 17:36:23 GMT
Steve Hamer, I was told DC thought Nichols was worth a maximum of £250K but Hamer agreed £350K in order to clinch the deal. and you believe what you are told? - your posts do not bear this out! Told by an ex-director, pretty sure Hugo has stated similar in the past, I assume your mate, Ken Masters, can confirm if he was told a similar story?
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Post by alanrg on Feb 14, 2021 17:39:17 GMT
Fire at Oxford in one of the floodlights not in the dressing room
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Post by socrates on Feb 14, 2021 17:49:23 GMT
Player power, similar to Tisdale failing at Rovers is my guess? No manager can just be "lucky" over 46 games, signing JCH was a bit of luck but we still had a decent defence behind him. I'm not suggesting he was lucky, not at all, but still the difference in his tenures at the two clubs are so massively different, it would need a bit of explanation. Some managers do really well at some clubs but not at others. Players are the same. Without knowing the ins and outs of each individual career it’s impossible to say for sure why any given player or manager has success at one club but fails at another. Probably only that person themselves could give an honest truthful explanation and even then I bet many probably can’t get their head around why certain things just didn’t work out.
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 14, 2021 19:28:22 GMT
These two clowns (starnes and Widdrington) need to go.. They're like the chuckle brothers and are the sole problem at the club.. Cut them out like the cancer they are You probably posted the same about Hamer in the past, and probably Wael before this summer. The only clown is the one expecting the owner to sack the whole board he's taken time to recruit. So you think that starnes and Widdrington are doing a good job??? I'm astounded if you do. If manager after manager are so unsuccessful, you need to look beyond the manager. I'm fed up with poor signing after poor signing, Nichols, Tom Davies, westbrooke, ehmer. It appears that TW does what some of the geeks do on here and just look at a players stats on football manager rather than scout them properly. We've seen this before when the club went through a succession of bad managers who brought in bad players (buckle, penny, North and mcghee). When that is the case, you need to look beyond the manager when apportioning blame. This team and club is every bit as bad as those dark days I've just mentioned believe me.
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 14, 2021 19:31:53 GMT
You probably posted the same about Hamer in the past, and probably Wael before this summer. The only clown is the one expecting the owner to sack the whole board he's taken time to recruit. So you think that starnes and Widdrington are doing a good job??? I'm astounded if you do. If manager after manager are so unsuccessful, you need to look beyond the manager. I'm fed up with poor signing after poor signing, Nichols, Tom Davies, westbrooke, ehmer. It appears that TW does what some of the geeks do on here and just look at a players stats on football manager rather than scout them properly. We've seen this before when the club went through a succession of bad managers who brought in bad players (buckle, penny, North and mcghee). When that is the case, you need to look beyond the manager when apportioning blame. This team and club is every bit as bad as those dark days I've just mentioned believe me. This is the worst rovers team I've ever seen. You've also got to remember that wael knows nothing about football and is being guided by the clowns he's been badly advised to appoint. Wael doesn't know any better!! It's the likes of starnes in his pointless role for a small club like ours as CEO who is robbing a living from our club
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Feb 14, 2021 20:02:26 GMT
So you think that starnes and Widdrington are doing a good job??? I'm astounded if you do. If manager after manager are so unsuccessful, you need to look beyond the manager. I'm fed up with poor signing after poor signing, Nichols, Tom Davies, westbrooke, ehmer. It appears that TW does what some of the geeks do on here and just look at a players stats on football manager rather than scout them properly. We've seen this before when the club went through a succession of bad managers who brought in bad players (buckle, penny, North and mcghee). When that is the case, you need to look beyond the manager when apportioning blame. This team and club is every bit as bad as those dark days I've just mentioned believe me. This is the worst rovers team I've ever seen. You've also got to remember that wael knows nothing about football and is being guided by the clowns he's been badly advised to appoint. Wael doesn't know any better!! It's the likes of starnes in his pointless role for a small club like ours as CEO who is robbing a living from our club You can't have been following Rovers for long then.
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Post by aghast on Feb 14, 2021 20:15:31 GMT
Is Mr Starnes officially as bad as Mr Hamer now then?
I could never tell the difference between them tbh. Are they related? Have they ever been seen in the same room together?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 20:26:29 GMT
These two clowns (starnes and Widdrington) need to go.. They're like the chuckle brothers and are the sole problem at the club.. Cut them out like the cancer they are You probably posted the same about Hamer in the past, and probably Wael before this summer. The only clown is the one expecting the owner to sack the whole board he's taken time to recruit. There was no time taken to recruit either of them and perhaps that’s part of the problem- Starnes phoned up and asked for a job and Widdrington was brought in because D.C. knew him. Gorringe seems to have been an astute hire with a good pedigree at another successful club, I’m not sure we can say the same about Widdrington and Starnes CVS. If I was Wael I’d be looking for consultants who can help me identify quality candidates to improve the football ing side of the club, especially seeing this “Rovers DNA” is only going to work with a quality scouting network. I’m not sure anyone can seriously argue, based on the last three windows, that we have a quality scouting network.
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 14, 2021 20:27:09 GMT
This is the worst rovers team I've ever seen. You've also got to remember that wael knows nothing about football and is being guided by the clowns he's been badly advised to appoint. Wael doesn't know any better!! It's the likes of starnes in his pointless role for a small club like ours as CEO who is robbing a living from our club You can't have been following Rovers for long then. Since 1983...more than most on here
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 14, 2021 20:29:28 GMT
This is the worst rovers team I've ever seen. You've also got to remember that wael knows nothing about football and is being guided by the clowns he's been badly advised to appoint. Wael doesn't know any better!! It's the likes of starnes in his pointless role for a small club like ours as CEO who is robbing a living from our club Graceyboy more like Ladyboy That was a constructive counter argument you put up there and mature to boot.. How long did it take you to think that one up... Imbecile
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 14, 2021 20:32:27 GMT
Is Mr Starnes officially as bad as Mr Hamer now then? I could never tell the difference between them tbh. Are they related? Have they ever been seen in the same room together? Both smarmy pointless leaches that the club does not need.. Full of bullsh1t and false promises while lining their own pockets.. Its easy to see why they are indecipherable from each other
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 14, 2021 20:39:51 GMT
Is Mr Starnes officially as bad as Mr Hamer now then? I could never tell the difference between them tbh. Are they related? Have they ever been seen in the same room together? Both smarmy pointless leaches that the club does not need.. Full of bullsh1t and false promises while lining their own pockets.. Its easy to see why they are indecipherable from each other Calm down, I can't see there's any need to use that type of language about club employees, no doubt you've no proof they are leaches etc.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 14, 2021 20:44:47 GMT
You probably posted the same about Hamer in the past, and probably Wael before this summer. The only clown is the one expecting the owner to sack the whole board he's taken time to recruit. There was no time taken to recruit either of them and perhaps that’s part of the problem- Starnes phoned up and asked for a job and Widdrington was brought in because D.C. knew him. Gorringe seems to have been an astute hire with a good pedigree at another successful club, I’m not sure we can say the same about Widdrington and Starnes CVS. If I was Wael I’d be looking for consultants who can help me identify quality candidates to improve the football ing side of the club, especially seeing this “Rovers DNA” is only going to work with a quality scouting network. I’m not sure anyone can seriously argue, based on the last three windows, that we have a quality scouting network. I can just imagine the meltdown if Wael announced that he's hired a team of consultants to choose the next manager, until we stop appointing clowns as managers I'll refrain from judging the recruitment as it seemed to be OK when GC was operating with the same set up. I'd love to know why no striker would sign for us last month was it lack of £'s, fear of playing for a relegation threatened team, or just not wanting to work with Tisdale
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Post by Gassy on Feb 14, 2021 20:46:53 GMT
There was no time taken to recruit either of them and perhaps that’s part of the problem- Starnes phoned up and asked for a job and Widdrington was brought in because D.C. knew him. Gorringe seems to have been an astute hire with a good pedigree at another successful club, I’m not sure we can say the same about Widdrington and Starnes CVS. If I was Wael I’d be looking for consultants who can help me identify quality candidates to improve the football ing side of the club, especially seeing this “Rovers DNA” is only going to work with a quality scouting network. I’m not sure anyone can seriously argue, based on the last three windows, that we have a quality scouting network. I can just imagine the meltdown if Wael announced that he's hired a team of consultants to choose the next manager, until we stop appointing clowns as managers I'll refrain from judging the recruitment as it seemed to be OK when GC was operating with the same set up. I'd love to know why no striker would sign for us last month was it lack of £'s, fear of playing for a relegation threatened team, or just not wanting to work with Tisdale I fear the latter may be true, Topper. We never had an issue bringing players in until Tisdale was in charge..
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Post by henry on Feb 14, 2021 20:57:48 GMT
There was no time taken to recruit either of them and perhaps that’s part of the problem- Starnes phoned up and asked for a job and Widdrington was brought in because D.C. knew him. Gorringe seems to have been an astute hire with a good pedigree at another successful club, I’m not sure we can say the same about Widdrington and Starnes CVS. If I was Wael I’d be looking for consultants who can help me identify quality candidates to improve the football ing side of the club, especially seeing this “Rovers DNA” is only going to work with a quality scouting network. I’m not sure anyone can seriously argue, based on the last three windows, that we have a quality scouting network. I can just imagine the meltdown if Wael announced that he's hired a team of consultants to choose the next manager, until we stop appointing clowns as managers I'll refrain from judging the recruitment as it seemed to be OK when GC was operating with the same set up. I'd love to know why no striker would sign for us last month was it lack of £'s, fear of playing for a relegation threatened team, or just not wanting to work with Tisdale The point you made about strikers may not want to come to the Rovers and work with Tisdale; he did say on record that they were in for someone but it didn’t come off but who knows the reason? Widderington does and just perhaps he never actually approached anyone! We shall never know. All speculation.
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 14, 2021 20:58:40 GMT
Both smarmy pointless leaches that the club does not need.. Full of bullsh1t and false promises while lining their own pockets.. Its easy to see why they are indecipherable from each other Calm down, I can't see there's any need to use that type of language about club employees, no doubt you've no proof they are leaches etc. The proof is in the pudding... Look at where we are in the table and look at the debacle over the non existent new ground, something starnes was brought in to rectify. What does he do for his wage? I can't see any evidence of anything. He's taking money from the club and not delivering results off the field which is his brief. That is the epitomy of a leach. There is your proof
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Post by graceyboy on Feb 14, 2021 21:02:37 GMT
Every time I see that grinning idiot's face, I see reg holdsworth from coronation street. Look at that fake outrage he tried to show over yesterday's postponement.. Cringe worthy
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Post by henry on Feb 14, 2021 21:11:07 GMT
I can just imagine the meltdown if Wael announced that he's hired a team of consultants to choose the next manager, until we stop appointing clowns as managers I'll refrain from judging the recruitment as it seemed to be OK when GC was operating with the same set up. I'd love to know why no striker would sign for us last month was it lack of £'s, fear of playing for a relegation threatened team, or just not wanting to work with Tisdale I fear the latter may be true, Topper. We never had an issue bringing players in until Tisdale was in charge.. So, now Tisdales gone we can look forward to these quality strikers signing for us.
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