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Post by RD on Feb 22, 2021 11:23:52 GMT
So it's official, Joey Barton is appointed next Bristol Rovers manager.
I'll be honest, those are words I never expected to utter. I've made my thoughts on his potential appointment very clear over the past week or so - and I stand by those remarks.
But he's here now. For those that want to stay away - unlike some - I totally understand. For me personally, he will be given the chance to carry out the job he's been brought in to do and I will fully support him in that role.
- Do I feel a bit sick inside? Yes - Do I worry it will only be matter a time before he slips up? 100% - Do I therefore feel it will ultimately prove to be a mistake in appointing him? Yeah I do
But despite that, I'm not the one making the decisions or paying his wages. If (and this is an utterly enormous if, not least because he has a court case looming over his head as we speak) he manages to keep out of trouble, then he could yet be a very good appointment.
Whilst I feel "successful" is a word that's maybe been thrown in Joey's direction by some a little generously, there are definitely real hints that there's a talented manager there who could yet achieve very good things at this football club. He's a relatively "big name" at this level, had a pretty successful playing career (more so than most manager's we've had over the years) and will no doubt help us to attract some decent players, not least because of his contacts throughout the game.
All I pray, is that he keeps out of trouble. Joey - you've been given an enormous opportunity here, so please, please, please don't drag the club's name through the mud by getting yourself in any more serious trouble - that is all I ask.
One final note: Please respect that to some fans, this appointment really doesn't sit well. For many, perhaps you can look past his previous (long list of) misdemeanours. But surely you can appreciate why others may struggle? So please respect that and please, please refrain from some of the goading we've seen over the past 24 hours or so.
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 22, 2021 11:25:29 GMT
Anyone got on thoughts on this appointment?
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Joey B
Feb 22, 2021 11:25:42 GMT
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Post by brads213 on Feb 22, 2021 11:25:42 GMT
Absolutely a Effie joke this club is last man out turn out the lights. Good night Irene. Thanks for the memories. R I. P. Brfc
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 11:26:35 GMT
Good balanced post
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Post by singupgas on Feb 22, 2021 11:26:59 GMT
There is already a 170 page thread on Joey B...
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 22, 2021 11:28:57 GMT
Given most managers fail to be promoted, and that anything less than promoted or at least save relegation this year, odds are in your favour to be proved right.
So despite I have no issue with Barton, I’m going to agree because I’ve been positive on managers before, but the law of averages says they are more likely to fail than succeed so you’re best off bemoaning every appointment, and then at least if it doesn’t work out, you can say “I told you so”
If we get promoted nobody cares, nobody will pull you up on it, but if we fail, then you can quite happily blame those who backed him and say “I tried to tell you”
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Post by RD on Feb 22, 2021 11:30:07 GMT
Given most managers fail to be promoted, and that anything less than promoted or at least save relegation this year, odds are in your favour to be proved right. So despite I have no issue with Barton, I’m going to agree because I’ve been positive on managers before, but the law of averages says they are more likely to fail than succeed so you’re best off bemoaning every appointment, and then at least if it doesn’t work out, you can say “I told you so” If we get promoted nobody cares, nobody will pull you up on it, but if we fail, then you can quite happily blame those who backed him and say “I tried to tell you” I thought it was reasonably clear from the post but apparently not; I'm not stating I think it will fail because of his managerial ability, I think it will eventually fail because he will slip up again.
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Post by 69rovers on Feb 22, 2021 11:30:30 GMT
People had doubts Garner and Tisdale -Time is now to forget all the negativity on this forum concerning Joey Barton and get behind him over the next eighteen games to show we are one. There will be defeats and no doubt the unblemished are just waiting to put the knife in but we I think this is a great appointment and cant wait to get back to the mem and get behind the manager and the team. UTG
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Post by Goose on Feb 22, 2021 11:31:01 GMT
Good post... I agree, it's fine to disagree with others opinions, but it has to be done respectfully and with considered argument rather than just plain slating.
I am on the fence with this appointment... Potentially the kick up the backside we need, but anxious on behaviours....
I will however continue to give my full support to the gas
UTG
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Post by RD on Feb 22, 2021 11:31:03 GMT
There is already a 170 page thread on Joey B... Quite aware of that thank-you. Hence thought it would get lost in the 170+ pages (created to discuss the next potential manager - now he's been appointed he's no longer a potential manager).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 11:32:13 GMT
Coughlan Garner Tisdale Barton...
Who is actually picking these Muppets?
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Feb 22, 2021 11:33:43 GMT
There is already a 170 page thread on Joey B... Quite aware of that thank-you. Hence thought it would get lost in the 170+ pages (created to discuss the next potential manager - now he's been appointed he's no longer a potential manager). same rhetoric tho ~ mods please merge as when we get a,new signing and it is confirmed the original says exactly that ~ CONFIRMED
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 22, 2021 11:35:15 GMT
Given most managers fail to be promoted, and that anything less than promoted or at least save relegation this year, odds are in your favour to be proved right. So despite I have no issue with Barton, I’m going to agree because I’ve been positive on managers before, but the law of averages says they are more likely to fail than succeed so you’re best off bemoaning every appointment, and then at least if it doesn’t work out, you can say “I told you so” If we get promoted nobody cares, nobody will pull you up on it, but if we fail, then you can quite happily blame those who backed him and say “I tried to tell you” I thought it was reasonably clear from the post but apparently not; I'm not stating I think it will fail because of his managerial ability, I think it will eventually fail because he will slip up again. You said it’s ultimately a mistake in appointing him. To be honest mate, I’m more making a general point that being positive on appointments tends to make anyone wrong. For the one in ten which do well, 9/10 fail. When watching the game with friends/family, I have to deal with people who always say “we’re set up wrong” If we win, nobody cares. If we lose, I have to deal with both losing and someone claiming their inherent football nous. As if a defeat isn’t bad enough, I have to hear people making capital from it. Same with managers. I liked the idea of garner, young hungry manager, young players. Yet I have to endure all these post coughlan coughlan lovers who apparently always knew hoofball was the way to go.
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Post by RD on Feb 22, 2021 11:35:28 GMT
Quite aware of that thank-you. Hence thought it would get lost in the 170+ pages (created to discuss the next potential manager - now he's been appointed he's no longer a potential manager). same rhetoric tho ~ mods please merge as when we get a,new signing and it is confirmed the original says exactly that ~ CONFIRMED No, quite happy to have it as a new thread thanks.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 22, 2021 11:35:56 GMT
Quite aware of that thank-you. Hence thought it would get lost in the 170+ pages (created to discuss the next potential manager - now he's been appointed he's no longer a potential manager). same rhetoric tho ~ mods please merge as when we get a,new signing and it is confirmed the original says exactly that ~ CONFIRMED He is a mod!
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Post by RD on Feb 22, 2021 11:36:12 GMT
I thought it was reasonably clear from the post but apparently not; I'm not stating I think it will fail because of his managerial ability, I think it will eventually fail because he will slip up again. You said it’s ultimately a mistake in appointing him. To be honest mate, I’m more making a general point that being positive on appointments tends to make anyone wrong. For the one in ten which do well, 9/10 fail. When watching the game with friends/family, I have to deal with people who always say “we’re set up wrong” If we win, nobody cares. If we lose, I have to deal with both losing and someone claiming their inherent football nous. As if a defeat isn’t bad enough, I have to hear people making capital from it. Same with managers. I liked the idea of garner, young hungry manager, young players. Yet I have to endure all these post coughlan coughlan lovers who apparently always knew hoofball was the way to go. No - quite happy I've re-read the post and it's incredibly clear.
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Post by matealotblue on Feb 22, 2021 11:38:33 GMT
Anyone got on thoughts on this appointment? Certainly turned this place into something more akin to the bile spouted in General Chat......
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Feb 22, 2021 11:38:41 GMT
same rhetoric tho ~ mods please merge as when we get a,new signing and it is confirmed the original says exactly that ~ CONFIRMED He is a mod! one rule etc., GGMI
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Feb 22, 2021 11:39:24 GMT
same rhetoric tho ~ mods please merge as when we get a,new signing and it is confirmed the original says exactly that ~ CONFIRMED No, quite happy to have it as a new thread thanks. Mod not God ffs
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 22, 2021 11:39:33 GMT
You said it’s ultimately a mistake in appointing him. To be honest mate, I’m more making a general point that being positive on appointments tends to make anyone wrong. For the one in ten which do well, 9/10 fail. When watching the game with friends/family, I have to deal with people who always say “we’re set up wrong” If we win, nobody cares. If we lose, I have to deal with both losing and someone claiming their inherent football nous. As if a defeat isn’t bad enough, I have to hear people making capital from it. Same with managers. I liked the idea of garner, young hungry manager, young players. Yet I have to endure all these post coughlan coughlan lovers who apparently always knew hoofball was the way to go. No - quite happy I've re-read the post and it's incredibly clear. Alright! Calm down, don’t go into roverdrive over it!
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