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Post by gaschat on Mar 20, 2021 20:54:28 GMT
Didn't agree with garner or tisdale, but got behind them both. Didn't want Barton either, but I've got to admit, even though results have not gone our way, we've created lots of chances, love the way we are on the front foot. We've not been outplayed by anyone, in fact we've had more play in most games. I really hope we stick with jb, definitely a modern manager, with up to date ideas. If it were not so tragic, that would be Comedy Gold...what don’t you understand about 7 (seven) points out of 24? WTF are “up to date ideas”, we need points, not “up to date ideas”
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 20:55:10 GMT
Who says Tisdale didn’t try to get a striker or three in? Barton is spouting the usual rubbish after games, but I bet it’s basically the same squad for Tuesday even after his post match threats. To be fair, what’s he supposed to do? At the minute, no one is really playing well but you can’t just replace the whole 1st team with youth players. With the injuries and lack of depth I don’t see what options he has! I think he’s trying to inject some passion into this lacklustre squad. He’s the current Manager, eradicate the defensive mistakes and get the strikers scoring, it’s his job.
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Post by RD on Mar 20, 2021 20:55:15 GMT
Who says Tisdale didn’t try to get a striker or three in? Barton is spouting the usual rubbish after games, but I bet it’s basically the same squad for Tuesday even after his post match threats. To be fair, what’s he supposed to do? At the minute, no one is really playing well but you can’t just replace the whole 1st team with youth players. With the injuries and lack of depth I don’t see what options he has! I think he’s trying to inject some passion into this lacklustre squad. I don't know - motivate? Coach? Come up with some tactical genius to make up for our sh1te team? Earn his wages? Any of the above really. We must be paying him by the cliche.
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 20:56:00 GMT
With our structure the Manager doesn’t make the signings. Widdrington has said they have a list of eighteen months down the road. Also Tisdale doesn’t offer the contract. That's a fair comment but surely if as a manager you have come to the conclusion your strikers aren't good enough you'd be banging the head of recruitments door down daily asking where the reinforcements are ? And as a Manager you don’t always get the answers you want.
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 21:05:43 GMT
To be fair, what’s he supposed to do? At the minute, no one is really playing well but you can’t just replace the whole 1st team with youth players. With the injuries and lack of depth I don’t see what options he has! I think he’s trying to inject some passion into this lacklustre squad. I don't know - motivate? Coach? Come up with some tactical genius to make up for our sh1te team? Earn his wages? Any of the above really. We must be paying him by the cliche. His Cliches are up there with Garners rubbish.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 20, 2021 21:20:00 GMT
No Tisdale was very uninspiring.
The results are not going our way, but I would say we are definitely giving ourselves more of a chance to win game, we are not so gutless as we were.
The players really need to step up now, take look at themselves, give 100% for the remaining games, have pride.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 21:21:31 GMT
Barton is the only positive to cling to in a woeful season... if he stays we will move forward either in L2 back to L1 or L1 towards the play offs.
No player has really stood out over an extended time whilst some have shown they lack quality / ability / appetite or all three.
I hope JB is totally ruthless and kicks out the sh**e... including the inherited coaching fools still sat in the dug out ...hopefully Wael sees through the Northern Conman Widdrington and cuts him loose as well. Sadly we are stuck with Starnes.
Stick with JB ... he is the real deal. With backing I think he will take us to the Championship - will take a few years but he is a winner.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 20, 2021 21:21:44 GMT
Barton is the only one of the three Managers who9 has had to do it without ANY control over incomings. He is the best man for the job and will prove to be a good Manager whichever League we are in next season. He has had the least luck with the loss of Grant, Rodman and Nicholson. The players are to blame totally. f**king ridiculous! How can you blame Grant, Rodman and Nicholson for getting injured? Jesus wept! I think he meant the players collectively are to blame for our league position, not blaming them for being injured
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 21:26:23 GMT
I have no idea if he tried 1, 2 or 10 different strikers but the fact remains other sides around us brought players in, why were we any different ? As for Tues that remains to be seen, let's be honest he doesnt have a huge amount of options With our structure the Manager doesn’t make the signings. Widdrington has said they have a list of eighteen months down the road. Also Tisdale doesn’t offer the contract. So why have the 3 managers under Tommy all signed/targeted a different type of player. As I understand it the manager has the final shout on who we do (or don’t) sign.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 20, 2021 21:28:02 GMT
Barton is the only positive to cling to in a woeful season... if he stays we will move forward either in L2 back to L1 or L1 towards the play offs. No player has really stood out over an extended time whilst some have shown they lack quality / ability / appetite or all three. I hope JB is totally ruthless and kicks out the sh**e... including the inherited coaching fools still sat in the dug out ...hopefully Wael sees through the Northern Conman Widdrington and cuts him loose as well. Sadly we are stuck with Starnes. Stick with JB ... he is the real deal. With backing I think he will take us to the Championship - will take a few years but he is a winner. Absolutely. There is deadwood in this side, players not putting everything in. Ehmer being pulled at half time speaks volumes. Wael needs to let JB to get rid and back him to bring I better players.
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Post by Strange Gas on Mar 20, 2021 21:28:30 GMT
Barton is the only positive to cling to in a woeful season... if he stays we will move forward either in L2 back to L1 or L1 towards the play offs. No player has really stood out over an extended time whilst some have shown they lack quality / ability / appetite or all three. I hope JB is totally ruthless and kicks out the sh**e... including the inherited coaching fools still sat in the dug out ...hopefully Wael sees through the Northern Conman Widdrington and cuts him loose as well. Sadly we are stuck with Starnes. Stick with JB ... he is the real deal. With backing I think he will take us to the Championship - will take a few years but he is a winner. Yes, this is how I feel too, although I guess the facts probably indicate he’s no better than Tisdale currently, he does give me more hope and optimism regardless of where we end up come 46 games
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 20, 2021 21:32:52 GMT
U r having a laugh regarding Tisdale did not make any attacking signings in January but decided to bring in a full back don’t put this on Joey Barton this squad is crap What about our head of recruitments little black book? Tisdale done us a favour by not signing players for the sake of it just to try to make a difference as Rovers have been there many times. Micky Evens, Steffen Payne to name a few. The stitching up of Graham Coughlan was the Beginning and will be the unfortunate ending for the Rovers in this sorry saga. So it's all Mrs G's fault for wanting her hubby home for tea time, that's an interesting take on our problems this season! What I can't understand is why we let Garner anywhere near our summer recruitment when he had such a poor end to last season, surely Wriddington must have known he was totally out of his depth and could have warned Wael?, Perhaps he did and his promotion after Garner departed was done in order to keep him quiet.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 20, 2021 21:35:05 GMT
With our structure the Manager doesn’t make the signings. Widdrington has said they have a list of eighteen months down the road. Also Tisdale doesn’t offer the contract. That's a fair comment but surely if as a manager you have come to the conclusion your strikers aren't good enough you'd be banging the head of recruitments door down daily asking where the reinforcements are ? Perhaps he did and Wriddington replied with "him working on it" or even "the strikers are good enough, just get on and manager them" We don't even know if Wael woul sanction signing another striker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 21:48:50 GMT
Tisdale was a bit of a whipping boy to be honest. Most of the damage was done before he got here. That's now 3 managers that can't get a tune out of these players though, what does that tell you? This is an incredibly poor squad which would struggle in league two, let alone league one. Heads should roll, these managers can’t take all of the blame for the mess this football club is in.
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 21:53:34 GMT
With our structure the Manager doesn’t make the signings. Widdrington has said they have a list of eighteen months down the road. Also Tisdale doesn’t offer the contract. So why have the 3 managers under Tommy all signed/targeted a different type of player. As I understand it the manager has the final shout on who we do (or don’t) sign. I’ve wanted staff but the budget hasn’t allowed no matter how much appealing I have tried.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 21:56:56 GMT
So why have the 3 managers under Tommy all signed/targeted a different type of player. As I understand it the manager has the final shout on who we do (or don’t) sign. I’ve wanted staff but the budget hasn’t allowed no matter how much appealing I have tried. Money was available. Hence why he was allowed to chase Stockley all window missing out on various decent enough options who went elsewhere where.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Mar 20, 2021 21:57:48 GMT
Barton is the only positive to cling to in a woeful season... if he stays we will move forward either in L2 back to L1 or L1 towards the play offs. No player has really stood out over an extended time whilst some have shown they lack quality / ability / appetite or all three. I hope JB is totally ruthless and kicks out the sh**e... including the inherited coaching fools still sat in the dug out ...hopefully Wael sees through the Northern Conman Widdrington and cuts him loose as well. Sadly we are stuck with Starnes. Stick with JB ... he is the real deal. With backing I think he will take us to the Championship - will take a few years but he is a winner. Absolutely. There is deadwood in this side, players not putting everything in. Ehmer being pulled at half time speaks volumes. Wael needs to let JB to get rid and back him to bring I better players. just not easy to do though. e.g. Bennet
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Post by RD on Mar 20, 2021 21:58:57 GMT
I’ve wanted staff but the budget hasn’t allowed no matter how much appealing I have tried. Money was available. Hence why he was allowed to chase Stockley all window missing out on various decent enough options who went elsewhere where. Stockley would presumably have been Tisdale's idea - at least possibly. So where the fk was Tommy's input? Blokes a complete fraud and the most culpable of all of them imo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 22:02:16 GMT
Money was available. Hence why he was allowed to chase Stockley all window missing out on various decent enough options who went elsewhere where. Stockley would presumably have been Tisdale's idea - at least possibly. So where the fk was Tommy's input? Blokes a complete fraud and the most culpable of all of them imo. How do we know he didn’t put a list to Tisdale and he said no to them all? It’s all Guesswork although the fact we signed Williams and went after stockley says to me the Manager is calling the shots about who comes in.
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Post by RD on Mar 20, 2021 22:05:53 GMT
Stockley would presumably have been Tisdale's idea - at least possibly. So where the fk was Tommy's input? Blokes a complete fraud and the most culpable of all of them imo. How do we know he didn’t put a list to Tisdale and he said no to them all? It’s all Guesswork although the fact we signed Williams and went after stockley says to me the Manager is calling the shots about who comes in. To me it suggests Widdrington has no clue. And that's backed up by looking at the worst Rovers team in history.
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