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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Mar 20, 2021 22:07:22 GMT
Joey Barton hasn't had the chance to bring in one player he rates. BG and tis both had a chance to. Anybody can see the way jb wants us to play, he just doesn't have the squad depth to play the way he wants to. Despite JBs past, he isn't a has been, knows the league well and what it takes to win. I don't for one minute blame him for results, he's just doing the best with the hand he's been dealt. What I've found frustrating is on the whole lots of performances have been very encouraging, but not reflected in the number of points earned. Again if jb was manager from the start of the season I'd say we'd be top 10.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 22:08:25 GMT
How do we know he didn’t put a list to Tisdale and he said no to them all? It’s all Guesswork although the fact we signed Williams and went after stockley says to me the Manager is calling the shots about who comes in. To me it suggests Widdrington has no clue. And that's backed up by looking at the worst Rovers team in history. Worst team in history? Plenty have been worse the two that finished 91st in the league for a start. That’s not to say it’s a great squad but the worst in history is a bit of an knee jerk statement.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 20, 2021 22:11:55 GMT
To me it suggests Widdrington has no clue. And that's backed up by looking at the worst Rovers team in history. Worst team in history? Plenty have been worse the two that finished 91st in the league for a start. That’s not to say it’s a great squad but the worst in history is a bit of an knee jerk statement. RD is always melodramatic.
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Post by onedaygas83 on Mar 20, 2021 22:13:19 GMT
My annoyance is that we keep picking the obvious under performing players that keep giving us negative results. The defence is unworkable it has to go in the summer but why not play the 3 players that joey brought on with 9 minutes to go today from the start? We are clueless without the added attacking players we have on the bench! Daly instead of Hanlon, ozzy in for upson and tutunda in for leahy! Hare in at RB and as for the cds well there all Dam sh** but please lets give us some forwarding players instead of the constant sh** we keep picking each game
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 22:14:14 GMT
To me it suggests Widdrington has no clue. And that's backed up by looking at the worst Rovers team in history. Worst team in history? Plenty have been worse the two that finished 91st in the league for a start. That’s not to say it’s a great squad but the worst in history is a bit of an knee jerk statement. For John-Joe O'Toole, we have Sam Nicholson, both teams not much else.
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 22:14:55 GMT
Worst team in history? Plenty have been worse the two that finished 91st in the league for a start. That’s not to say it’s a great squad but the worst in history is a bit of an knee jerk statement. RD is always melodramatic. He doesn’t bump threads from two years ago and is speaking the truth.
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Post by RD on Mar 20, 2021 22:14:56 GMT
To me it suggests Widdrington has no clue. And that's backed up by looking at the worst Rovers team in history. Worst team in history? Plenty have been worse the two that finished 91st in the league for a start. That’s not to say it’s a great squad but the worst in history is a bit of an knee jerk statement. In your opinion. I'm entitled to mine, and I stand by it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 22:15:19 GMT
Worst team in history? Plenty have been worse the two that finished 91st in the league for a start. That’s not to say it’s a great squad but the worst in history is a bit of an knee jerk statement. For John-Joe O'Toole, we have Sam Nicholson, both teams not much else. The squad in the early 00’s that finished 91st is by far the worst we have ever had.
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Post by scottleroc on Mar 20, 2021 22:15:33 GMT
To be fair, what’s he supposed to do? At the minute, no one is really playing well but you can’t just replace the whole 1st team with youth players. With the injuries and lack of depth I don’t see what options he has! I think he’s trying to inject some passion into this lacklustre squad. I don't know - motivate? Coach? Come up with some tactical genius to make up for our sh1te team? Earn his wages? Any of the above really. We must be paying him by the cliche. So would you get rid of JB too? At some point we have to stick with a manager and back him. We can’t bring players in now realistically anyway, so we’re kind of stuck with what we have. We, me included, would have loved Paul Cook but he’s struggling with a better squad than we have. I really thought JB’s enthusiasm was going to rub off on this team but with no one able to inject any steel or enthusiasm into them I think we just have to hope to god the 4 teams below us remain as bad or worse than us for the next 10 games. With a summer I think JB will make improvements. I appreciate many don’t , and never will, like JB but I’m prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by RD on Mar 20, 2021 22:15:57 GMT
Worst team in history? Plenty have been worse the two that finished 91st in the league for a start. That’s not to say it’s a great squad but the worst in history is a bit of an knee jerk statement. RD is always melodramatic. And you're always and annoying pr1ck. C'est la vie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 22:16:31 GMT
Worst team in history? Plenty have been worse the two that finished 91st in the league for a start. That’s not to say it’s a great squad but the worst in history is a bit of an knee jerk statement. In your opinion. I'm entitled to mine, and I stand by it. And I stand by mine, the early 00’s squad and the relegated squad both worse than this for me
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Mar 20, 2021 22:16:49 GMT
Didn't agree with garner or tisdale, but got behind them both. Didn't want Barton either, but I've got to admit, even though results have not gone our way, we've created lots of chances, love the way we are on the front foot. We've not been outplayed by anyone, in fact we've had more play in most games. I really hope we stick with jb, definitely a modern manager, with up to date ideas. If it were not so tragic, that would be Comedy Gold...what don’t you understand about 7 (seven) points out of 24? WTF are “up to date ideas”, we need points, not “up to date ideas” Come on then gaschat? What's the answer then? Talk about stating the obvious! Of course we need points. I take it you are not a Barton fan then? To rephrase... Up to date ideas = not a dinosaur /has been/rookie manager but someone who knows absolutely what is needed to be successful. He just doesn't have the players, which was bloody obvious before the season even started! Again our performances have been encouraging considering.
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 22:18:42 GMT
In your opinion. I'm entitled to mine, and I stand by it. And I stand by mine, the early 00’s squad and the relegated squad both worse than this for me As in the Gary Thomson one? Although I always felt he took the blame for others failures and seemed a genuinely good guy.
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Post by scottleroc on Mar 20, 2021 22:19:49 GMT
To be fair, what’s he supposed to do? At the minute, no one is really playing well but you can’t just replace the whole 1st team with youth players. With the injuries and lack of depth I don’t see what options he has! I think he’s trying to inject some passion into this lacklustre squad. He’s the current Manager, eradicate the defensive mistakes and get the strikers scoring, it’s his job. What if the players aren’t good enough?
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 22:21:28 GMT
He’s the current Manager, eradicate the defensive mistakes and get the strikers scoring, it’s his job. What if the players aren’t good enough? He talks the talk so walk the walk.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 22:21:57 GMT
And I stand by mine, the early 00’s squad and the relegated squad both worse than this for me As in the Gary Thomson one? Although I always felt he took the blame for others failures and seemed a genuinely good guy. The season that Gerry started as manager. A few decent experienced pros who were sadly injury prone and well past it. The only two shining lights were a young duke and the Latvian. A truly diabolical side.
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 20, 2021 22:23:29 GMT
As in the Gary Thomson one? Although I always felt he took the blame for others failures and seemed a genuinely good guy. The season that Gerry started as manager. A few decent experienced pros who were sadly injury prone and well past it. The only two shining lights were a young duke and the Latvian. A truly diabolical side. Ah yes but The Duke and The Latvian would walk over these players.
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Post by gaschat on Mar 20, 2021 22:25:07 GMT
If it were not so tragic, that would be Comedy Gold...what don’t you understand about 7 (seven) points out of 24? WTF are “up to date ideas”, we need points, not “up to date ideas” Come on then gaschat? What's the answer then? Talk about stating the obvious! Of course we need points. I take it you are not a Barton fan then? To rephrase... Up to date ideas = not a dinosaur /has been/rookie manager but someone who knows absolutely what is needed to be successful. He just doesn't have the players, which was bloody obvious before the season even started! Again our performances have been encouraging considering. I’m not the one talking nonsense, you are and thank you for the riddle. The fact is, “up to date ideas” are worthless, points are all that counts...and perhaps you could point me to a single “up to date idea” Barton has espoused or implemented. You are a rose tinter and as full of it as he is.
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Post by axegas on Mar 20, 2021 22:25:21 GMT
The season that Gerry started as manager. A few decent experienced pros who were sadly injury prone and well past it. The only two shining lights were a young duke and the Latvian. A truly diabolical side. Ah yes but The Duke and The Latvian would walk over these players. Arguably in the same manner Nicholson and Jaakkola would walk over some of that teams players. It’s a team sport and both teams are/were dreadful so it’s a bit of a moot point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 22:25:43 GMT
The season that Gerry started as manager. A few decent experienced pros who were sadly injury prone and well past it. The only two shining lights were a young duke and the Latvian. A truly diabolical side. Ah yes but The Duke and The Latvian would walk over these players. They didn’t walk over 22 other teams that year though. 2 players don’t make a good team. We were lucky only one side went down. They actually returned 5 points less than the team who were actually relegated. Who can forget Alvin Bubb,Kevin Gall and Neil Arndale.
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