Barton no better than Tisdale?

Ignoring managers for a minute and focussing on the team, in a lot of our games since Barton has taken charge, our three best players have been Ayunga, Nicholson and Rodman. With the latter two out, we’re realistically going to struggle even more than we had been doing previously.

We pressed well today and had good patches but there was no quality in the final third, 20 shots very few of them troubling the opposition keeper, no quality to bring on from the bench to change the game either. That’s the challenge Barton now faces, there’s just not many goals in this side, Leahy won’t score in every game from the wingback position.

I do think he’s better than Tisdale but he shouldn’t be completely absolved of any criticism as that’s not healthy.

Thought he made the subs too late today (other than the half time one) and made a mistake playing 5 defenders against a team who have recently conceded on average 2 goals a game.


Hope we see Ozzie from the start on Tuesday as think he has ability to pull a rabbit out a hat.

In my opinion our performances haven't been that bad since Barton took charge. All Rovers stats are on the left.

WIGAN
Possession: 53% / 47%
Shots: 19 / 5
On Target: 3 / 2
Corners: 7 /4

SHREWSBURY
Possession: 46% / 54%
Shots: 15 / 3
On Target: 3 / 2
Corners: 3 / 1

BURTON (We Were well ahead on all stats until McCormick got sent off)
Possession: 54% / 46%
Shots: 11 / 14
On Target: 1 / 5
Corners: 2 / 3

HULL
Possession: 51% / 49%
Shots: 9 / 9
On Target: 3 / 2
Corners: 6 / 3

ACCRINGTON
Possession: 42% / 58%
Shots: 15 / 10
On Target: 8 / 2
Corners: 4 / 4

WIMBLEDON
Possession: 48% / 52%
Shots: 19 / 10
On Target: 4 / 3
Corners: 8 / 5

CHARLTON (We were ahead in most stats at half time but never recovered from conceding 2 goals in 9 minutes before the break)
Possession: 42% / 58%
Shots: 7 / 15
On Target: 4 / 4
Corners: 2 / 10

PLYMOUTH
Possession: 55% / 45%
Shots: 22 / 15
On Target: 3 / 5
Corners: 9 / 6

So out of 32 stats over 8 games we were behind in 10. 3 of those 10 were at Burton where we were dominating until the sending off.

The stats would suggest we should have won at least 5 of those games.

I'm not sure these players are capable of much more than what we're getting. They regularly have more possession, more shots and more corners than the opposition but unfortunately our defenders switch off at vital moments and our forwards are not taking their chances.

I think Barton is the right man to help us progress long term but I'm not sure he or anyone else could keep us up this season with the players we have available.

Nice post, I’ll update my stats tables on Monday also to reflect you point bud.

I know points determine success for a manager for many, but the way we play under Barton should deliver more than it has for sure.

I’m sure you know what you are full of and I’m sure morons can see how we’ve improved but I can’t. The fact you don’t seem to understand is “up to date ideas” won’t keep us up...but points will. 
Are you St Joeys press conference coach because you seem as witless as he is.
”Up to date ideas” just tell me one that he has come up with, go on, one...give me half of one, all he comes up with are cliches and manager talk and half wit, rose tinters like you lap it up.

I don’t think there’s been a bigger IF all season 

they had the guts at Charlton and look where that got em 

you just can’t call it , it’s truly mental 

You have a decent point about points though, no one can take that from you.

I feel JB has made us better at losing while creating enough chances to win vs our previous managers though. And his way of playing should have and should continue to yield more than it has, which sucks ass

He did say few will agree 

And I don’t either but it has to be at least a factor 

We've had 117 shots in those 8 games and scored 9 goals.

We've had 81 shots against us and conceded 12 goals.

In those 8 games only 25 opposition shots have been on target, 12 resulting in goals.

These stats would have been more heavily in our favour if McCormick hadn't been sent off at Burton because they had barely had a shot prior to that.

Performances have improved but results haven't because neither Garner or Tisdale signed a proven goalscorer and decided to release our best 2 centre backs, Craig and Davies.

Barton has also had bad luck with injuries. He's never been able to play Jaakkola or Ogogo and now has another 3 important first team players missing through injury, Grant, Rodman and Nicholson.

I'm confident Barton is the right man for the job but I'm not confident we'll stay up because of the mess he inherited.