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Post by Jomo on Mar 23, 2021 21:37:19 GMT
Garner should have gone before the start of the season, after taking us from 2nd in the league to the bottom of the table last season. He showed he was not good enough. Our position at the start of Garner's tenure gets higher by the week! Still, I agree Garner was a disaster. It's our board's decision making since Coughlan left, that has put us in this situation of facing inevitable relegation. We tried to have our cake and eat it, by changing our club philosophy too quickly. Now we're a club running around like headless chickens without a scooby what has happened. It's ridiculous.
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Post by surreygas4 on Mar 23, 2021 21:39:24 GMT
Please can we not go back down the BG PPG rabbit hole again...! Its hard work.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 23, 2021 21:42:33 GMT
I demand to know who decided Hanlan, Ayunga and Daly was enough to score the goals needed to stay in league one. Don't forget he not only thought it was enough to stay in L1, but good enough to challenge
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 23, 2021 21:44:02 GMT
And amazingly Garner has a better PPG ratio this season than Tisdale or Barton Shhhhhhhh don’t you dare mention a bad word against Barton Tisdale was a sh** appointment from day one. Barton has a proven record at this level at a smaller club, presumably with smaller budget. His teams were hard to beat and played nice football. I dont think you can blame Barton for this awful team.
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Post by landrover on Mar 23, 2021 21:44:03 GMT
And amazingly Garner has a better PPG ratio this season than Tisdale or Barton He might well do but it was still relegation form.
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Post by RD on Mar 23, 2021 21:45:24 GMT
Shhhhhhhh don’t you dare mention a bad word against Barton Tisdale was a sh** appointment from day one. Barton has a proven record at this level at a smaller club, presumably with smaller budget. His teams were hard to beat and played nice football. I dont think you can blame Barton for this awful team. Good managers find a way to get results. Tisdale barely had a chance. looks like Barton will get 500+ games whatever happens.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 23, 2021 21:47:16 GMT
Shhhhhhhh don’t you dare mention a bad word against Barton Tisdale was a sh** appointment from day one. Barton has a proven record at this level at a smaller club, presumably with smaller budget. His teams were hard to beat and played nice football. I dont think you can blame Barton for this awful team. Wael need to sit down with Joey ASAP and work out what they need to do next season. This current group of players are not keeping us up.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 23, 2021 21:47:57 GMT
Say what you like about Barton's form so far though but his situation is in principle no different to that which DC inherited. If we go down, which looks likely and has done for a long while, lets give him a chance to assemble a squad and see what he can do.
(before anyone says it, completely different to Garner who ripped apart a promotion fighting team and assembled the crap we watch every week right now)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 21:48:14 GMT
Ben Garner, I hope no other football club is stupid enough to ever employ you again, your daft beliefs, three strikers going into the season, releasing Tony Craig, banishing Abs. You are a disgrace, an embarrassment to our history. The person that employed you should also walk tonight, being beat by a pathetic Swindon team is dire and the final straw. Grow up ffs,why wish that on someone who tried his best but wasn’t up to it.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 23, 2021 21:49:19 GMT
Tisdale was a sh** appointment from day one. Barton has a proven record at this level at a smaller club, presumably with smaller budget. His teams were hard to beat and played nice football. I dont think you can blame Barton for this awful team. Good managers find a way to get results. Tisdale barely had a chance. looks like Barton will get 500+ games whatever happens. Tisdale had more of a chance than Barton has had IMO. You can't ignore the window. However I will admit that Barton's ability to get anything out of this squad probably highlights that Tisdale could/should have been given longer. Then again, he still would have taken us down - so it really doesn't make any difference
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Post by 69rovers on Mar 23, 2021 21:49:53 GMT
With the squad he had Garner would have kept us up but I get why he is still getting a kicking on here. The playes were his not Tisdales or Bartons. The board should have stuck with him,if relegated sacked him then. Now Div 2 and down to Barton to buid a team that can put pride back onto our name.
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Post by peterparker on Mar 23, 2021 21:51:07 GMT
And amazingly Garner has a better PPG ratio this season than Tisdale or Barton He might well do but it was still relegation form. Possibly, but the people that have followed have not made them any better. Perhaps BG could have got more out of his players over a longer period. Maybe he would have done something about the striker situation had he got to January All ifs, buts and maybes and that cant be changed
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 23, 2021 21:51:19 GMT
With the squad he had Garner would have kept us up but I get why he is still getting a kicking on here. The playes were his not Tisdales or Bartons. The board should have stuck with him,if relegated sacked him then. Now Div 2 and down to Barton to buid a team that can put pride back onto our name. No chance, we weren't winning convincingly. It was a matter of time before other teams got their form together and we slid down the table. I honestly think we'd already be down if he was still in charge.
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 23, 2021 21:51:30 GMT
Garner should have gone before the start of the season, after taking us from 2nd in the league to the bottom of the table last season. He showed he was not good enough. should.have been shown the door the day he kept hanging around the club before he even got the gig
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Post by RD on Mar 23, 2021 21:51:52 GMT
Say what you like about Barton's form so far though but his situation is in principle no different to that which DC inherited. If we go down, which looks likely and has done for a long while, lets give him a chance to assemble a squad and see what he can do. (before anyone says it, completely different to Garner who ripped apart a promotion fighting team and assembled the crap we watch every week right now) FWIW I am behind Barton. That said I do feel we should have more points on the board than he’s managed to acquire thus far. We’ve had some extremely easy games yet failed to pick up points. My biggest gripe is that the Barton lovers refuse to put any criticism his way whatsoever - and that’s utterly laughable. Is he entirely to blame - 100% no. Should we have picked up more points than we have since his appointment - 100% yes.
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Post by RD on Mar 23, 2021 21:53:26 GMT
Good managers find a way to get results. Tisdale barely had a chance. looks like Barton will get 500+ games whatever happens. Tisdale had more of a chance than Barton has had IMO. You can't ignore the window. However I will admit that Barton's ability to get anything out of this squad probably highlights that Tisdale could/should have been given longer. Then again, he still would have taken us down - so it really doesn't make any difference Why is the window definitely Tisdale fault? Could be he did all he could. TW arguably far more culpable given his actual job is recruitment.
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 23, 2021 21:54:00 GMT
Ben Garner, I hope no other football club is stupid enough to ever employ you again, your daft beliefs, three strikers going into the season, releasing Tony Craig, banishing Abs. You are a disgrace, an embarrassment to our history. The person that employed you should also walk tonight, being beat by a pathetic Swindon team is dire and the final straw. Grow up ffs,why wish that on someone who tried his best but wasn’t up to it. Sorry are you throwing stones in your greenhouse again? Dobson never managed again after his failure with us, Garner doesn’t deserve a chance after his abject failure, Dave Penney definitely deserved another chance. Garner sank the team he took control of, stripped morale and set up for the season with three strikers. Two who had barely ever played league football.
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Post by gaschat on Mar 23, 2021 21:56:21 GMT
7 (Seven) points out of 27 (Twenty seven), Garner and Tisdale are looking good now aren’t they? This was so predictable, what ever faults they had at least they aren’t a pair of violent oiks...the only blessing in all this is, when Barton gets jailed we’ll be able to walk away from his contract and employ someone with a little class
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 21:57:38 GMT
Tisdale was a sh** appointment from day one. Barton has a proven record at this level at a smaller club, presumably with smaller budget. His teams were hard to beat and played nice football. I dont think you can blame Barton for this awful team. Wael need to sit down with Joey ASAP and work out what they need to do next season. This current group of players are not keeping us up. Already done it. If you listen to his interview tonight he had a meeting immediately after tonight's game with Wael and Starmes and they have already agreed the way to go forward over the last few weeks.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Mar 23, 2021 21:57:51 GMT
Tommy and his little tiny teeny Chuffing weeny black book of profiles, can leve through that little red door 🚪. Ben enjoy your last and only good wage you’ll get out of football. Wael grow a pair and speak up, scilence on the terraces making things easy? ?? Apologies to both Mr Tisdale, and Mr Barton for these blemishes on your managerial career, neither your pairs fault, (not a dig but you won’t care or hurt like us gasheads). Where are we going from here? I won’t sleep well tonight.... again. Need these clocks to change to get a lie in. Sorry to break it to you but the clocks are going forward so that will be an hour less in bed .....
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