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Post by bridgwatergas on Mar 25, 2021 20:26:20 GMT
Tisdale did have AJ to start with and then played him in the pointless trophy where he picked up the injury. No other manager I can remember played there 1st choice keeper in the competition until it got to the final stages so only has himself to blame there. Really? You will be blaming Roger Milford for Paul Gascoigne's cup final injury next. With a hectic season upon us and also AJ travelling to internationals even though it was to sit on the bench it makes perfect sense to rest players for pointless games as every other manager did exactly that and didn't have a condensed season. I get hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think this was bought up when the team that night was announced and then a big debate after the injury. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 23:53:27 GMT
Still has a fantastic beard. X
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 26, 2021 0:00:40 GMT
See oddly I didn’t mind Evans, was never a goal scorer though, I’ll raise you a Scott Jones to that list, purely on that penalty he should have scored. I think scott jones was brave and took one for the team that night. Thick slippery mud, pouring rain and against city with relegation at stake. Everything going against you. He also knew he wasnt popular with many fans anyway. Not the best spotkick ,but had a younger player taken it and missed that could have damaged their career big time after the amount of bile spilled at jones afterwards. No sorry, it doesn’t take much to leather the ball, Jones basically passed it to Phillips. The guy was a waste of space like Many others. |
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Post by pirate on Mar 26, 2021 0:17:13 GMT
I think scott jones was brave and took one for the team that night. Thick slippery mud, pouring rain and against city with relegation at stake. Everything going against you. He also knew he wasnt popular with many fans anyway. Not the best spotkick ,but had a younger player taken it and missed that could have damaged their career big time after the amount of bile spilled at jones afterwards. No sorry, it doesn’t take much to leather the ball, Jones basically passed it to Phillips. The guy was a waste of space like Many others. I don't think Jones ever looked fit enough when he was with us, certainly when he joined he was carrying a few extra pounds. |
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Post by playtowin on Mar 26, 2021 5:30:18 GMT
I think scott jones was brave and took one for the team that night. Thick slippery mud, pouring rain and against city with relegation at stake. Everything going against you. He also knew he wasnt popular with many fans anyway. Not the best spotkick ,but had a younger player taken it and missed that could have damaged their career big time after the amount of bile spilled at jones afterwards. No sorry, it doesn’t take much to leather the ball, Jones basically passed it to Phillips. The guy was a waste of space like Many others. I rest my case. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 7:10:44 GMT
“Scott Jones had the heart of a pea”
That’s how one of the backroom staff of those times described him to me.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Mar 28, 2021 10:02:03 GMT
Was going to post this on the JB to Preston thread but that just continues to detract from who is to blame for our impending relegation.
JB hasn’t got off to a great start for sure and nowhere near as well as he probably thought and told us he would but it’s still a damn sight better than taking 8 games to get your first scabby win with a team that had been looking good for promotion until he got his hands on them! Yes and then after such a truly pathetic start Mr BFG was then entrusted with a complete rebuild!
There might be accomplices to the crime but chief gang master in our sorry situation and demise is the utterly inept BFG.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 28, 2021 10:08:15 GMT
Was going to post this on the JB to Preston thread but that just continues to detract from who is to blame for our impending relegation. JB hasn’t got off to a great start for sure and nowhere near as well as he probably thought and told us he would but it’s still a damn sight better than taking 8 games to get your first scabby win with a team that had been looking good for promotion until he got his hands on them! Yes and then after such a truly pathetic start Mr BFG was then entrusted with a complete rebuild! There might be accomplices to the crime but chief gang master in our sorry situation and demise is the utterly inept BFG. . Yes, but he's gone now. We can either sit here and blame him (the easy option) or we (JB, Wael, TW, Starnes, coaches etc) can take some responsibility and try and improve things. After all he's been gone nearly 5 months now with a transfer window in between and things haven't improved! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 28, 2021 10:36:33 GMT
Isn't it too late to do anything now but plan for life in L2, as Barton seemed to be doing yesterday?
As far as January is concerned I'm starting to come to the conclusion that we tried to sign players but they just weren't interested in signing for the club &/or Tisdale was just too fussy in who we signed.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 28, 2021 12:13:49 GMT
Was going to post this on the JB to Preston thread but that just continues to detract from who is to blame for our impending relegation. JB hasn’t got off to a great start for sure and nowhere near as well as he probably thought and told us he would but it’s still a damn sight better than taking 8 games to get your first scabby win with a team that had been looking good for promotion until he got his hands on them! Yes and then after such a truly pathetic start Mr BFG was then entrusted with a complete rebuild! There might be accomplices to the crime but chief gang master in our sorry situation and demise is the utterly inept BFG. . Yes, but he's gone now. We can either sit here and blame him (the easy option) or we (JB, Wael, TW, Starnes, coaches etc) can take some responsibility and try and improve things. After all he's been gone nearly 5 months now with a transfer window in between and things haven't improved! The person who had a vision of pretty football and developing new, young players, is escaping from any blame. The buck stops with him. We have not heard a word from him and we really should be hearing from him. I feel more concerned about our survival, as a club, than even when we first went to Twerton. I think many are just not even thinking of the architect of this crap team |
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Post by Westy on Mar 28, 2021 14:09:11 GMT
Personally I'd rather never read or hear a mention of BG ever again. The damage he has done to this club is unfortunately Unforgettable however.
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 28, 2021 14:15:35 GMT
Personally I'd rather never read or hear a mention of BG ever again. The damage he has done to this club is unfortunately Unforgettable however. yes. Pushed us back years which means there definitely is no rush to improve facilities if we are in div 2 next season |
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Post by Westy on Mar 28, 2021 15:43:08 GMT
Personally I'd rather never read or hear a mention of BG ever again. The damage he has done to this club is unfortunately Unforgettable however. yes. Pushed us back years which means there definitely is no rush to improve facilities if we are in div 2 next season #besttraininggroundintheconference |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 28, 2021 16:11:52 GMT
. Yes, but he's gone now. We can either sit here and blame him (the easy option) or we (JB, Wael, TW, Starnes, coaches etc) can take some responsibility and try and improve things. After all he's been gone nearly 5 months now with a transfer window in between and things haven't improved! The person who had a vision of pretty football and developing new, young players, is escaping from any blame. The buck stops with him. We have not heard a word from him and we really should be hearing from him. I feel more concerned about our survival, as a club, than even when we first went to Twerton. I think many are just not even thinking of the architect of this crap team Given we're debt free apart from this year's losses then there's no logic in that concern, I can't see Wael clearing our debts of nearly £20m and spending £m's on the quarters, then deciding because we've been relegated to put us into admin and then losing all that money he's spent. |
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Post by BS6 Gas on Mar 28, 2021 17:48:01 GMT
Tisdale was a sh** appointment from day one. Barton has a proven record at this level at a smaller club, presumably with smaller budget. His teams were hard to beat and played nice football. I dont think you can blame Barton for this awful team. Good managers find a way to get results. Tisdale barely had a chance. looks like Barton will get 500+ games whatever happens. Bang on, Tis was sacked far far too early. In fact even if we had gone down under Tis he had the credentials to build us into a team and a squad capable of challenging for promotion straight back up. Whilst I like JB I don’t know whether he has the desire to see out the project. |
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Post by wilmslowgas on Mar 28, 2021 18:07:40 GMT
I'm not convinced that Tisdale had the desire to "see out the project".
What a mess!
An object lesson in how not to run a football club.
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Post by theduke on Mar 29, 2021 15:06:53 GMT
Genuinely lost for words on the number of Garner apologists out there!
I think his performance as Rovers manager, both on and off the field, was an absolute disgrace. I couldn't care less if he was a nice fella or not - the fact is that he dismantled a team that, in the previous 46 games, was second in the form table (was placed handily in 4th in the actual table) and put together this horrible, disjointed, gutless mess of a squad we've been forced to endure ever since.
Tisdale and Barton don't escape criticism either but this fella had the crucial period, the pre-season, to at least get these lads fit and he didn't manage it because he wanted to focus on other things. Training was such a joke that he had to bring in his bezzie mate, Steve Coppell, to try and run it. How did that go by the way?
A manager with balls would have told TW straight that we were light up front. That we didn't need a 4th left back. That we didn't need a central midfielder who is no better than the lads in the development squad. That our backup goalkeeper is not good enough to play professional football. And so on and so on.
I couldn't care less that he's inexperienced - do you think a similarly inexperienced Barton would have stood for this crap?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 29, 2021 15:12:15 GMT
Good managers find a way to get results. Tisdale barely had a chance. looks like Barton will get 500+ games whatever happens. Bang on, Tis was sacked far far too early. In fact even if we had gone down under Tis he had the credentials to build us into a team and a squad capable of challenging for promotion straight back up. Whilst I like JB I don’t know whether he has the desire to see out the project.I was thinking the same. That commute must be a bitch to see his family once a week. How long can he do that for? |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Mar 29, 2021 15:41:49 GMT
Bang on, Tis was sacked far far too early. In fact even if we had gone down under Tis he had the credentials to build us into a team and a squad capable of challenging for promotion straight back up. Whilst I like JB I don’t know whether he has the desire to see out the project.I was thinking the same. That commute must be a bitch to see his family once a week. How long can he do that for? As many football managers work miles away from where they live as don’t! Neil Warnock lives in Cornwall doesn’t stop him managing Middlesbrough, Tony Pulis in Bournemouth didn’t worry about managing Stoke City for 10 years. Rafa Benitez on the Wirral managing Newcastle. Does Darell Clarke live in Burslem? Does Ryan Lowe live in Plymouth? Gerry Francis lived in Surrey when he managed us. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 29, 2021 17:35:58 GMT
I was thinking the same. That commute must be a bitch to see his family once a week. How long can he do that for? As many football managers work miles away from where they live as don’t! Neil Warnock lives in Cornwall doesn’t stop him managing Middlesbrough, Tony Pulis in Bournemouth didn’t worry about managing Stoke City for 10 years. Rafa Benitez on the Wirral managing Newcastle. Does Darell Clarke live in Burslem? Does Ryan Lowe live in Plymouth? Gerry Francis lived in Surrey when he managed us. Warnock's in his 70's and Pulis in his late 50's, I doubt either have young kids who need bed time stories read and help with their home work etc? If Barton can get a job nearer his home I sense he'll be off like a shot, it's not like he has to build his reputation up like Lose at Plymouth. |
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