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Post by LJG on Mar 25, 2021 22:22:04 GMT
The club clearly isn't going backwards. The club is debt free for the first time in multiple decades and has it's own state of the art training facility. So, no I don't think the club is in need of a shake up. The team are not performing well on the pitch. That's completely different. The question of who I would appoint is completely irrelevant to whether or not we should allow Joey Barton to "shake up" the club. Any suggestion I make would give you the opportunity to deflect the weakness of your argument that he should on to that, totally separate, subject. The simply fact is there isn't a suitable internal candidate or he would have been made caretaker manager rather than TW. The only obvious candidate is Hargreaves but he's been overlooked twice and just seems content to plod along in the background at Rovers rather than seek a manager's, or assistant manager's job in senior football. Again. Irrelevant to the point I'm making.
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Post by LJG on Mar 25, 2021 22:31:37 GMT
There are plenty of posts on various threads stating Starnes and Widdrington should be relieved of their duties and Barton being allowed to make wholesale changes throughout the club "from top to bottom" that seems to me to be a suggestion that Barton have influence not just on the playing side. Good . They need shaking up ! Utg Don't be silly.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 25, 2021 22:55:32 GMT
I’m not being silly , I personally would’ve more faith in batrton , then that bunch of clowns . ! Utg
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 25, 2021 22:59:37 GMT
Don’t be patronising .
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 25, 2021 23:00:24 GMT
Don’t be patronising .
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Mar 25, 2021 23:10:06 GMT
Don’t be patronising .
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 25, 2021 23:17:36 GMT
Sorry . Contact lense fell out !
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Post by Somersetgas on Mar 26, 2021 0:11:17 GMT
Sorry . Contact lense fell out ! Better than putting it the wrong way around 🤣 that hurts!
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Post by bridgwatergas on Mar 26, 2021 6:53:30 GMT
So his time in football he hasn't gained a wealth of knowledge in how a football club is run. And to shake it up from top to bottom can be read however you want. Wael is at the top I'm sure he isnt trying to get rid of him but there maybe one or two that are cutting the mustard. How far to the bottom do you go is he referring to the tea lady,the workers in the club shop I very much doubt it. I would take it in all the years he has been involved in football he would spot a decent coach and someone who is just not putting it all in. The club is going backwards and a shake up is exactly what is required and if it dosent happen then I fear for the future of our club. Is Joey Barton the correct man to taken all this on I have no idea but yet again I would trust him more than I would trust other ex managers to change the way we operate. Wael will have his own ideas of what he wants to do and with some input from JB it could be the kick start we need as we cannot keep going on like we are. I see you just don't want to answer my question on who from within you would promote assuming i would criticise. In would just be interested as I believe there is nobody. I would also like to know your opinion on what direction we should head in taking JB out the picture. Do you think we don't need a shake up? There's lots of JB bashing but no alternative to how we should go. I don't agree that the club is going backwards. The club is debt free for the first time in multiple decades and has it's own state of the art training facility. So, Idon't think the club is in need of a shake up. The team are not performing well on the pitch. That's completely different. My opinion is that internal appointment has always seen us do best. The question of who I would appoint just distracts from the question of whether or not we should allow Joey Barton to "shake up" the club. I think plenty were disappointed when DC was appointed, probably Gerry even. GC was doing well, Ollie did well. I think it's something we should take as a model for the club. Fair enough comment but again you refuse to put a name forward. I said take JB out of the picture who would you appoint from within.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 26, 2021 7:07:54 GMT
I don't agree that the club is going backwards. The club is debt free for the first time in multiple decades and has it's own state of the art training facility. So, Idon't think the club is in need of a shake up. The team are not performing well on the pitch. That's completely different. My opinion is that internal appointment has always seen us do best. The question of who I would appoint just distracts from the question of whether or not we should allow Joey Barton to "shake up" the club. I think plenty were disappointed when DC was appointed, probably Gerry even. GC was doing well, Ollie did well. I think it's something we should take as a model for the club. Fair enough comment but again you refuse to put a name forward. I said take JB out of the picture who would you appoint from within. He wants to replace JB and argues he has never done anything if note in league 1 despite getting Fleetwood to the playoffs and appoint someone within who has never managed at all. Mind boggles at the logic.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 26, 2021 7:11:17 GMT
Fair enough comment but again you refuse to put a name forward. I said take JB out of the picture who would you appoint from within. He wants to replace JB and argues he has never done anything if note in league 1 despite getting Fleetwood to the playoffs and appoint someone within who has never managed at all. Mind boggles at the logic. The cowardly behaviour from LJG continues. Quick to criticise people's opinions and judgements whilst constantly sitting on the fence and not giving a solid opinion or prediction himself.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 10:40:00 GMT
There is no one . Full stop .Utg .
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 26, 2021 11:20:34 GMT
Ahem... maybe coaches...
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Post by LJG on Mar 26, 2021 11:45:40 GMT
I don't agree that the club is going backwards. The club is debt free for the first time in multiple decades and has it's own state of the art training facility. So, Idon't think the club is in need of a shake up. The team are not performing well on the pitch. That's completely different. My opinion is that internal appointment has always seen us do best. The question of who I would appoint just distracts from the question of whether or not we should allow Joey Barton to "shake up" the club. I think plenty were disappointed when DC was appointed, probably Gerry even. GC was doing well, Ollie did well. I think it's something we should take as a model for the club. Fair enough comment but again you refuse to put a name forward. I said take JB out of the picture who would you appoint from within. Because if I did give a name the barrage of posts would start "What? X is rubbish! Never even played prem football like are Joey!" That conversation is totally irrelevant to the discussion of whether Joey Barton should be given free reign to "shake up the club from top to bottom". Alright lads - I've devoted enough time to jabbering back and forth about whether a completely mediocre league one manager should be handed the reigns of the club regardless of his ability to do so just because he's a household name and frankly I've spent too much time thinking about Rovers for too long without any payoff so I'm tapping out for a while maybe a day or so, maybe a week or two, maybe for the rest of the season. Cheers, guys.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 26, 2021 11:54:10 GMT
Fair enough comment but again you refuse to put a name forward. I said take JB out of the picture who would you appoint from within. Because if I did give a name the barrage of posts would start "What? X is rubbish! Never even played prem football like are Joey!" That conversation is totally irrelevant to the discussion of whether Joey Barton should be given free reign to "shake up the club from top to bottom". Alright lads - I've devoted enough time to jabbering back and forth about whether a completely mediocre league one manager should be handed the reigns of the club regardless of his ability to do so just because he's a household name and frankly I've spent too much time thinking about Rovers for too long without any payoff so I'm tapping out for a while maybe a day or so, maybe a week or two, maybe for the rest of the season. Cheers, guys. Sorry pal, Ya probably not going to like the sound of his latest BBC interview - might be worth a listen though. Speak soon
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Post by gulfofaden on Mar 26, 2021 12:01:11 GMT
When did “Presser” become popular football slang? I note it changes.
The other one which is very popular is saying “the wing back and the forward are in a footrace”. What on Earth is a foot race? When did this become a thing? Are they not using their legs as well? Or could it be a car chase?
Bah.
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Post by aghast on Mar 26, 2021 12:03:48 GMT
That was not a very pretty dig at Tisdale, but what JB actually seemed to be suggesting was that the squad were in no fit state to perform at an acceptable level when PT arrived with his funny hats. So perhaps implying that BG left the place in disarray, and PT had no chance?
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Post by theduke on Mar 26, 2021 12:12:02 GMT
That was not a very pretty dig at Tisdale, but what JB actually seemed to be suggesting was that the squad were in no fit state to perform at an acceptable level when PT arrived with his funny hats. So perhaps implying that BG left the place in disarray, and PT had no chance? The squad are nowhere near fit enough. Look at us in the last 20 minutes of games, we have nothing left in the tank whatsoever. That’s on Ben Garner and kudos to a Joey for calling him out publicly.
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Post by RD on Mar 26, 2021 12:20:51 GMT
That was not a very pretty dig at Tisdale, but what JB actually seemed to be suggesting was that the squad were in no fit state to perform at an acceptable level when PT arrived with his funny hats. So perhaps implying that BG left the place in disarray, and PT had no chance? Christ - it continues. That said I don't think it was a dig at Tisdale at all - I thought he was referring to himself? I.e. you can't just up your game now some bloke in funny glasses has come in. Don't get me wrong, he might be included in the "previous coaches" dig, but in all honesty he wasn't here that long. I assumed he was more on about the actual defensive coaches, goalkeeping coaches etc etc - but could be wrong.
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Post by henry on Mar 26, 2021 12:26:31 GMT
That was not a very pretty dig at Tisdale, but what JB actually seemed to be suggesting was that the squad were in no fit state to perform at an acceptable level when PT arrived with his funny hats. So perhaps implying that BG left the place in disarray, and PT had no chance? Christ - it continues. That said I don't think it was a dig at Tisdale at all - I thought he was referring to himself? I.e. you can't just up your game now some bloke in funny glasses has come in. Don't get me wrong, he might be included in the "previous coaches" dig, but in all honesty he wasn't here that long. I assumed he was more on about the actual defensive coaches, goalkeeping coaches etc etc - but could be wrong.t The longer the Joey Barton show goes on the less I feel towards the Rovers as all he is doing is making a bad situation worse instead of rolling his sleeves up and fighting the cause. Mr Barton, please shut up and get on with it. Plus, is he really saying anything we don’t already know?
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