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Post by warehamgas on May 14, 2021 19:41:16 GMT
Look he’s a smart guy he called the players out and called relegation early he knows what he’s doing. He said we weren’t good enough and culture bad and he was proved right good management. Some on here like pirate get it have faith and let him get on with it without questioning everything Thanks Joey! UTG! |
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Post by dinsdale on May 14, 2021 19:41:25 GMT
Genuine question to those who back him. Ignoring the negatives about results, relegation, reputation, negative press conferences, criticism of predecessors etc etc. We've been over all that. I'm genuinely mystified why people think he's the new Messiah. So, listing positives only, if possible, what has he done for the club? Not what he might do. Anyone in theory could be a good manager. It's a science, an art and a bit of luck. What has he done to date which is positive and helps the club going forwards? Acquaducts ? Sanitation |
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:41:58 GMT
Genuine question to those who back him. Ignoring the negatives about results, relegation, reputation, negative press conferences, criticism of predecessors etc etc. We've been over all that. I'm genuinely mystified why people think he's the new Messiah. So, listing positives only, if possible, what has he done for the club? Not what he might do. Anyone in theory could be a good manager. It's a science, an art and a bit of luck. What has he done to date which is positive and helps the club going forwards? Acquaducts ? Sanitation Roads? |
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 19:44:15 GMT
Shut this thread down more Barton haters around I despair at times who ever is manager 4 Christ sake support the club Preconceptions alan he’s beaten up a few people and that doesn’t make him a bad manager people need to give him a chance. He’s been ok here and apart from results has done a good job I mean they’ve played better and he’s given them a kick up the Jack see which will benefit the long run |
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Post by pucklegas on May 14, 2021 19:49:19 GMT
Shut this thread down more Barton haters around I despair at times who ever is manager 4 Christ sake support the club They wanted mother Theresa to take over 😂 |
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Post by gruad on May 14, 2021 19:49:38 GMT
He's a nasty, unempathetic humourless fellow but sometimes thats what required.
I wish him the best.
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:50:36 GMT
Shut this thread down more Barton haters around I despair at times who ever is manager 4 Christ sake support the club Preconceptions alan he’s beaten up a few people and that doesn’t make him a bad manager people need to give him a chance. He’s been ok here and apart from results has done a good job I mean they’ve played better and he’s given them a kick up the Jack see which will benefit the long run Complete nonsense. I didn't care one bit about his past, in fact I was really excited for the future after his first few interviews. His infectious enthusiasm and energy was great, and he seems to have a wicked sense of humour. I like all that. My criticisms of him are purely based on his performance as our manager so far, and his rants while he has been manager. Nothing at all (zilch) to do with his past. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 19:50:51 GMT
Your wasting your time, it's just a Barton bashing thread. Read my response to worrellsterlingalbion and you'll see that it's more balanced than that. Seems typical of your posting style, only thinking in extremes. I'm hurting like all gasheads. My posting style is certainly not in extremes, I would consider myself to be a very balanced poster and always have been and I know for sure that the majority on here would agree with me. There are obviously two schools of thought on here, Pro or anti Barton, unfortunately in my opinion the anti Barton group appear to want to keep ramming it down everyone else's throat on a continuous basis. Like any gashead with any sense I realised in his first season Garner was not a manager and going into this season with such an unbalanced squad further enhanced that feeling. Long before Barton arrived I said we would go down and the reasons why we went down are clearly obvious and imho no manager could have saved us. It's happened now, I have accepted it and am happy to let Joey give it his best shot next season. It's as simple as that! |
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Post by warehamgas on May 14, 2021 19:51:17 GMT
Shut this thread down more Barton haters around I despair at times who ever is manager 4 Christ sake support the club Come on alanrg, just explain it to those of us who’ve asked some questions. Ive always supported the club and always will so I don’t need to be told to do that. That’s a given. But like so many I’m seriously puzzled as to why after the last matches he gets a free/no criticism run from some on here. Genuinely, I would like to know why? UTG! |
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 19:53:59 GMT
Preconceptions alan he’s beaten up a few people and that doesn’t make him a bad manager people need to give him a chance. He’s been ok here and apart from results has done a good job I mean they’ve played better and he’s given them a kick up the Jack see which will benefit the long run Complete nonsense. I didn't care one bit about his past, in fact I was really excited for the future after his first few interviews. His infectious enthusiasm and energy was great, and he seems to have a wicked sense of humour. I like all that. My criticisms of him are purely based on his performance as our manager so far, and his rants while he has been manager. Nothing at all (zilch) to do with his past. That’s fair enough results have not been great to be fair. By the way I’m not a Wum I just read the forum before and not posted. I’ve been a fan since 80s and on the forums since the days there were Tobago gas and some Oxford fan who posted more than rovers ones and gashead Wes used to stalk celebrity sex offenders ha ha did cliff Richards lawyers ever catch up with you Wes |
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:54:02 GMT
Read my response to worrellsterlingalbion and you'll see that it's more balanced than that. Seems typical of your posting style, only thinking in extremes. I'm hurting like all gasheads. My posting style is certainly not in extremes, I would consider myself to be a very balanced poster and always have been and I know for sure that the majority on here would agree with me. There are obviously two schools of thought on here, Pro or anti Barton, unfortunately in my opinion the anti Barton group appear to want to keep ramming it down everyone else's throat on a continuous basis.Like any gashead with any sense I realised in his first season Garner was not a manager and going into this season with such an unbalanced squad further enhanced that feeling. Long before Barton arrived I said we would go down and the reasons why we went down are clearly obvious and imho no manager could have saved us. It's happened now, I have accepted it and am happy to let Joey give it his best shot next season. It's as simple as that! The statement in bold somewhat negates your second sentence, would you agree? How about the other school of thought that I am in, which is neither pro nor anti Barton. Simply looking at his performance as manager without prejudice and making an objective assessment of it, finding serious faults, but still willing to accept that he deserves the summer to sort it out. |
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Post by dinsdale on May 14, 2021 19:55:05 GMT
Shut this thread down more Barton haters around I despair at times who ever is manager 4 Christ sake support the club Preconceptions alan he’s beaten up a few people and that doesn’t make him a bad manager people need to give him a chance. He’s been ok here and apart from results has done a good job I mean they’ve played better and he’s given them a kick up the Jack see which will benefit the long run Apart from results hes done a great job :-) hahahahaha almost as good as the idiot who thought Chris Beardsley was a great non scoring striker. Literally the only thing a manager is judged on is results. Barton has been nothing but a mitigated disaster thus far. Heres hoping he is half as good as his narcissism |
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:55:10 GMT
Complete nonsense. I didn't care one bit about his past, in fact I was really excited for the future after his first few interviews. His infectious enthusiasm and energy was great, and he seems to have a wicked sense of humour. I like all that. My criticisms of him are purely based on his performance as our manager so far, and his rants while he has been manager. Nothing at all (zilch) to do with his past. That’s fair enough results have not been great to be fair. By the way I’m not a Wum I just read the forum before and not posted. I’ve been a fan since 80s and on the forums since the days there were Tobago gas and some Oxford fan who posted more than rovers ones and gashead Wes used to stalk celebrity sex offenders ha ha did cliff Richards lawyers ever catch up with you Wes Apologies for insinuating you might be a WUM, my bad. |
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 19:59:37 GMT
Preconceptions alan he’s beaten up a few people and that doesn’t make him a bad manager people need to give him a chance. He’s been ok here and apart from results has done a good job I mean they’ve played better and he’s given them a kick up the Jack see which will benefit the long run Apart from results hes done a great job :-) hahahahaha almost as good as the idiot who thought Chris Beardsley was a great non scoring striker. Literally the only thing a manager is judged on is results. Barton has been nothing but a mitigated disaster thus far. Heres hoping he is half as good as his narcissism Fair point but if you take out bad ref decisions injuries and stupid mistakes from defenders he would never have signed we’d have been ok even with no scoring strikers. Look at Accrington game how good when it went right so no results don’t tell a whole picture |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 20:01:37 GMT
I'm hurting like all gasheads. My posting style is certainly not in extremes, I would consider myself to be a very balanced poster and always have been and I know for sure that the majority on here would agree with me. There are obviously two schools of thought on here, Pro or anti Barton, unfortunately in my opinion the anti Barton group appear to want to keep ramming it down everyone else's throat on a continuous basis.Like any gashead with any sense I realised in his first season Garner was not a manager and going into this season with such an unbalanced squad further enhanced that feeling. Long before Barton arrived I said we would go down and the reasons why we went down are clearly obvious and imho no manager could have saved us. It's happened now, I have accepted it and am happy to let Joey give it his best shot next season. It's as simple as that! The statement in bold somewhat negates your second sentence, would you agree? How about the other school of thought that I am in, which is neither pro nor anti Barton. Simply looking at his performance as manager without prejudice and making an objective assessment of it, finding serious faults, but still willing to accept that he deserves the summer to sort it out. NO I don't agree! |
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 20:04:47 GMT
The statement in bold somewhat negates your second sentence, would you agree? How about the other school of thought that I am in, which is neither pro nor anti Barton. Simply looking at his performance as manager without prejudice and making an objective assessment of it, finding serious faults, but still willing to accept that he deserves the summer to sort it out. NO I don't agree! OK, perhaps in general non-Barton related stuff fine, but in this particularly case you said you post in balance, and then followed that up by saying there are two schools of thought, "pro Barton" and "anti Barton". I'm saying that it doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. Not as far as I'm concerned anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 20:07:16 GMT
By being honest about how badly things have been run, he got players feeling positive and onside with him - not all of the players, but certainly those who want to be professional, and have a competitive mindset.
He's visited local charities - at least one of which was arranged by himself, not part of his club duties.
He's engaged with the fanbase, where possible in the current circumstances. Via local press, social media, and having the balls to go out and talk to the fans who turned up at The Mem before the last home game.
He's managed to show the door to some of the staff who were not fulfilling their duties to the required standard (I'm not including Manse in that). This is a plus point for the players, as there should be an improvement behind the scenes which benefits them.
For me, the jury is still out regarding what happens on the pitch - I'll judge that when he's got some of his own players in, and some games under their belts.
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Post by warehamgas on May 14, 2021 20:07:23 GMT
Read my response to worrellsterlingalbion and you'll see that it's more balanced than that. Seems typical of your posting style, only thinking in extremes. I'm hurting like all gasheads. My posting style is certainly not in extremes, I would consider myself to be a very balanced poster and always have been and I know for sure that the majority on here would agree with me.There are obviously two schools of thought on here, Pro or anti Barton, unfortunately in my opinion the anti Barton group appear to want to keep ramming it down everyone else's throat on a continuous basis. Like any gashead with any sense I realised in his first season Garner was not a manager and going into this season with such an unbalanced squad further enhanced that feeling. Long before Barton arrived I said we would go down and the reasons why we went down are clearly obvious and imho no manager could have saved us. It's happened now, I have accepted it and am happy to let Joey give it his best shot next season. It's as simple as that! Thanks bideford for trying to explain that, and I’d agree with what you’ve said about being a poster. I don’t think I’m anti-Barton and I’m looking forward to what he could achieve with a good pre-season and some decent players so am prepared to support him in that. And reading what you’ve said I agree but are we going on faith rather than on his performance so far as a manager for BRFC? But I’m genuinely puzzled when comparing the hammering BG and Tis got on here compared to JB who most seem to think is some kind of managing genius. I hope he is for all our sakes. League 2 is not the league to bugger about in. UTG! |
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Post by yattongas on May 14, 2021 20:09:37 GMT
So far the only positive I've read is that he that he's good at telling everyone they're sh**. Great man management skills that. He’s living rent free in your head 😜 |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on May 14, 2021 20:09:51 GMT
Look he’s a smart guy he called the players out and called relegation early he knows what he’s doing. He said we weren’t good enough and culture bad and he was proved right good management. Some on here like pirate get it have faith and let him get on with it without questioning everything Are you having a fecking laugh? Seriously!? How the hell is "calling relegation early" and saying "we're not good enough" good management? He accelerated our relegation and ensured we went down quickly and easily and without a fight. If you think that's good management then you're either a WUM or you have a screw loose. I'm going to eat 12 bags of wotsits tonight and make myself feel ill. We'll see who's smart later when I'm cheesy orange and ill. |
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