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Post by aghast on May 14, 2021 18:53:57 GMT
Genuine question to those who back him.
Ignoring the negatives about results, relegation, reputation, negative press conferences, criticism of predecessors etc etc.
We've been over all that.
I'm genuinely mystified why people think he's the new Messiah.
So, listing positives only, if possible, what has he done for the club?
Not what he might do. Anyone in theory could be a good manager. It's a science, an art and a bit of luck.
What has he done to date which is positive and helps the club going forwards?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 19:00:39 GMT
It's quite obvious you are a Barton hater. Why do you feel the need to start another thread about him. Whether you like it or not he is our Manager, so why not sit back and see what happens in the coming season. If he then fails, you can then come on here and tell us you were right all along.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 14, 2021 19:02:52 GMT
It's quite obvious you are a Barton hater. Why do you feel the need to start another thread about him. Whether you like it or not he is our Manager, so why not sit back and see what happens in the coming season. If he then fails, you can then come on here and tell us you were right all along. So nothing then aghast..
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Post by yattongas on May 14, 2021 19:04:56 GMT
He’s got us national exposure.
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Post by pucklegas on May 14, 2021 19:05:25 GMT
He has identified that our intended future pathway agreed by Ben, Tommy and wael was flawed.
He has released the players he could, and allegedly told the others that they need to find another club.
He has divided the fan base, and think he should have got more of a tune out of the squad, however any supporter with any modicum of intelligence knew months ago we never had enough goals in this squad.
Who knows whether he will be a success, but he seems "all in" on the project, I thought Graydon Atkins and Buckle were good appointments on paper by the way 😂🏴☠️
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Post by Gaswood on May 14, 2021 19:06:05 GMT
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 19:09:35 GMT
Look he’s a smart guy he called the players out and called relegation early he knows what he’s doing. He said we weren’t good enough and culture bad and he was proved right good management. Some on here like pirate get it have faith and let him get on with it without questioning everything
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on May 14, 2021 19:12:32 GMT
He’s livened the place up ! Let’s judge him next season . Utg 💙
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:14:35 GMT
Look he’s a smart guy he called the players out and called relegation early he knows what he’s doing. He said we weren’t good enough and culture bad and he was proved right good management. Some on here like pirate get it have faith and let him get on with it without questioning everything Are you having a fecking laugh? Seriously!? How the hell is "calling relegation early" and saying "we're not good enough" good management? He accelerated our relegation and ensured we went down quickly and easily and without a fight. If you think that's good management then you're either a WUM or you have a screw loose.
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Post by stapletongas on May 14, 2021 19:17:25 GMT
Taken us down?
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Post by aghast on May 14, 2021 19:20:03 GMT
It's quite obvious you are a Barton hater. Why do you feel the need to start another thread about him. Whether you like it or not he is our Manager, so why not sit back and see what happens in the coming season. If he then fails, you can then come on here and tell us you were right all along. Well you obviously jumped in without reading what I said. I specifically asked for the positives, not the negatives. So that the "Barton Haters" might be able to better understand what he's doing for the club. It is possible to have serious doubts about the manager without hating him, and also to be able to take on board any positives that I or others had not realised. So, if you wish to, tell me some positives and I might well be converted. This is not a Barton bashing thread. It's an opportunity for us all to understand how he might be a good thing. I don't think he is. But I'm willing to listen.
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Post by orgasmic on May 14, 2021 19:20:26 GMT
This is me every time someone tells me to not comment, wait and see, have faith, ignore his current record, ignore his rants etc. This is an Internet forum. If you don’t like a thread, move on but don’t tell me what to do!
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on May 14, 2021 19:22:33 GMT
Believing that he should be given the chance to bring in his own players doesnt mean anyone pro Barton thinks hes any kind of Messiah. It just means they are prepared to give him that chance exactly as some of us did with Garner this time last year. It may prove right or wrong only time will tell
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 14, 2021 19:23:42 GMT
So far the only positive I've read is that he that he's good at telling everyone they're sh**. Great man management skills that.
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:27:00 GMT
Believing that he should be given the chance to bring in his own players doesnt mean anyone pro Barton thinks hes any kind of Messiah. It just means they are prepared to give him that chance exactly as some of us did with Garner this time last year. It may prove right or wrong only time will tell I'm prepared to give him that chance, but that certainly doesn't mean I'm giving him a free pass for all the unprofessional and downright damaging rants, and his results and our performances that led to us finishing comfortably bottom of the table. That's what irritates me, it's not that people want to give him a chance, I completely get that, it's the fact he's getting such an easy ride from some after what has frankly been a car crash of a tenure so far.
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 19:27:46 GMT
Look he’s a smart guy he called the players out and called relegation early he knows what he’s doing. He said we weren’t good enough and culture bad and he was proved right good management. Some on here like pirate get it have faith and let him get on with it without questioning everything Are you having a fecking laugh? Seriously!? How the hell is "calling relegation early" and saying "we're not good enough" good management? He accelerated our relegation and ensured we went down quickly and easily and without a fight. If you think that's good management then you're either a WUM or you have a screw loose. Sorry I made my point badly I mean he identified the flaws and called out those responsible for our relegation which is good management not just accepting what’s in front of him
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 19:29:51 GMT
Are you having a fecking laugh? Seriously!? How the hell is "calling relegation early" and saying "we're not good enough" good management? He accelerated our relegation and ensured we went down quickly and easily and without a fight. If you think that's good management then you're either a WUM or you have a screw loose. Sorry I made my point badly I mean he identified the flaws and called out those responsible for our relegation which is good management not just accepting what’s in front of him Your wasting your time, it's just a Barton bashing thread.
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:30:27 GMT
Are you having a fecking laugh? Seriously!? How the hell is "calling relegation early" and saying "we're not good enough" good management? He accelerated our relegation and ensured we went down quickly and easily and without a fight. If you think that's good management then you're either a WUM or you have a screw loose. Sorry I made my point badly I mean he identified the flaws and called out those responsible for our relegation which is good management not just accepting what’s in front of him Completely disagree. Fair enough if you mean identifying flaws and making a plan of corrective action, but that's for the summer. I genuinely believe his rants in the media while we still had a chance of surviving actually did more damage in the short term and led to our collapse in the last 10 games or so of the season.
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Post by Jomo on May 14, 2021 19:31:53 GMT
Sorry I made my point badly I mean he identified the flaws and called out those responsible for our relegation which is good management not just accepting what’s in front of him Your wasting your time, it's just a Barton bashing thread. Read my response to worrellsterlingalbion and you'll see that it's more balanced than that. Seems typical of your posting style, only thinking in extremes.
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Post by alanrg on May 14, 2021 19:35:43 GMT
Shut this thread down more Barton haters around I despair at times who ever is manager 4 Christ sake support the club
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