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Post by warehamgas on Jun 3, 2021 10:47:11 GMT
Sounds like what you’re describing is a bit of experience - exactly what we need to add up there! Scott McGleish had experience......I’ll withhold judgment until we see what he’s replaced with but if it’s someone like Akinde or Pitman I won’t be enthused. I presume you mean Pitman now. Pitman in his prime would be a different matter, surely? We can only dream of a striker like that! UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 3, 2021 10:55:03 GMT
Wish Daly well but confused by some of responses. The lads got something, I just have no idea what it is. Good luck to him and got no problem with him but don’t see this as one that’s going to come back to bite us. Like him or not Hanlan has far more potential. I hope Daly has a great career. As I said that, that might be me! To explain, he played a high press and harried defenders, he had an eye for where the goal was and when central was able to get across defenders and score. Perhaps he’d have been better with an experienced partner. UTG!
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Post by pirate on Jun 3, 2021 10:57:03 GMT
Scott McGleish had experience......I’ll withhold judgment until we see what he’s replaced with but if it’s someone like Akinde or Pitman I won’t be enthused. I presume you mean Pitman now. Pitman in his prime would be a different matter, surely? We can only dream of a striker like that! UTG! Pitman now still managed to score 11 goals for an appalling side in the division above that we will be competing in. Some people moan about a lack of experience and then moan about a striker that has scored over 180 career goals. Couldn't make it up! 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 11:05:52 GMT
I presume you mean Pitman now. Pitman in his prime would be a different matter, surely? We can only dream of a striker like that! UTG! Pitman now still managed to score 11 goals for an appalling side in the division above that we will be competing in. Some people moan about a lack of experience and then moan about a striker that has scored over 180 career goals. Couldn't make it up! 🙄 He scored 3 more goals all season than Hanlan did Wes.....I’ve not moaned about a lack of experience either although I appreciate we do need an experienced man leading the line. I would hope we are aiming for better than him is all I am saying.
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Post by pirate on Jun 3, 2021 11:11:21 GMT
Pitman now still managed to score 11 goals for an appalling side in the division above that we will be competing in. Some people moan about a lack of experience and then moan about a striker that has scored over 180 career goals. Couldn't make it up! 🙄 He scored 3 more goals all season than Hanlan did Wes.....I’ve not moaned about a lack of experience either although I appreciate we do need an experienced man leading the line. I would hope we are aiming for better than him is all I am saying. What better experienced striker in league two are you expecting?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 11:14:25 GMT
He scored 3 more goals all season than Hanlan did Wes.....I’ve not moaned about a lack of experience either although I appreciate we do need an experienced man leading the line. I would hope we are aiming for better than him is all I am saying. What better experienced striker in league two are you expecting? Might sound like a cop out but I have no clue although it’s not my job to know. All I know is that Pitman now is immobile and his all round play is poor. If he ain’t sticking the ball in the net then he ain’t doing anything and naturally the older he gets the less it will happen. I’d also add in that nearly all of them lots down the roads cast offs we take on end up being absolute crap for us.
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Post by pirate on Jun 3, 2021 11:20:58 GMT
What better experienced striker in league two are you expecting? Might sound like a cop out but I have no clue although it’s not my job to know. All I know is that Pitman now is immobile and his all round play is poor. If he ain’t sticking the ball in the net then he ain’t doing anything and naturally the older he gets the less it will happen. I’d also add in that nearly all of them lots down the roads cast offs we take on end up being absolute crap for us. For what it is worth I would probably be targeting other players, but I still think Pitman would get between 15-20 goals at this level. We'll see.
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Post by Gaswood on Jun 3, 2021 11:27:52 GMT
What better experienced striker in league two are you expecting? Might sound like a cop out but I have no clue although it’s not my job to know. All I know is that Pitman now is immobile and his all round play is poor. If he ain’t sticking the ball in the net then he ain’t doing anything and naturally the older he gets the less it will happen. I’d also add in that nearly all of them lots down the roads cast offs we take on end up being absolute crap for us. Pitman is not mobile, but he is a striker that has great positional sense. Partner him with the very mobile yet less positionally aware Hanlan and you may have a good partnership, with Ayunga providing a big and hard to defend “problem” sub for teams to deal with later in the game. I agree with Pirate about his return in a poor side last season in a league above...Pitman could well give our current strikers some very valuable advice and they’d learn a lot from having him about. Also worth thinking that if Westbrooke rediscovers his assist abilities then Pitman would quite likely be in a position to nick a fair few goals! I’d love to see a better option come in, but certainly wouldn’t have any issue at all with us bringing him in.
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Post by lavalamp on Jun 3, 2021 12:29:41 GMT
Pitman now still managed to score 11 goals for an appalling side in the division above that we will be competing in. Some people moan about a lack of experience and then moan about a striker that has scored over 180 career goals. Couldn't make it up! 🙄 He scored 3 more goals all season than Hanlan did Wes.....I’ve not moaned about a lack of experience either although I appreciate we do need an experienced man leading the line. I would hope we are aiming for better than him is all I am saying. Just for some perspective - 4 more goals in 7 less games.
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Post by baggins on Jun 3, 2021 12:37:24 GMT
Get rid of Daly but keep Ayunga and Hanlan. Conference here we come.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 3, 2021 12:46:33 GMT
Luke McCormick is a year older than Daly, and the same age as him when he failed at Shrewsbury in a higher league, so it just shows how quickly players can develop.
I did see something in Daly personally, but for me whether its the right decision all depends on who Barton brings in
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Post by wertongas on Jun 3, 2021 13:22:01 GMT
Ayunga reminds me a bit of Akinde a strong powerful forward who may do OK in league two and get a few goals, but technically think he may always struggle at a higher level but maybe worth hanging onto for next season. Daly has already shown that when fit and having the right players such as Nicholson around him could do well and get goals in league 1.Whether Ayunga stays with us through next season depends a bit on who we bring in, a couple of good forwards may lead to Ayunga being left out of the first team.
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Post by pirate on Jun 3, 2021 13:33:32 GMT
Ayunga reminds me a bit of Akinde a strong powerful forward who may do OK in league two and get a few goals, but technically think he may always struggle at a higher level but maybe worth hanging onto for next season. Daly has already shown that when fit and having the right players such as Nicholson around him could do well and get goals in league 1.Whether Ayunga stays with us through next season depends a bit on who we bring in, a couple of good forwards may lead to Ayunga being left out of the first team. I'm hoping Ayunga can be moved on too.
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Post by Raj Gas on Jun 3, 2021 13:41:55 GMT
Wish Daly well but confused by some of responses. The lads got something, I just have no idea what it is. Good luck to him and got no problem with him but don’t see this as one that’s going to come back to bite us. Like him or not Hanlan has far more potential. I hope Daly has a great career. As I said that, that might be me! To explain, he played a high press and harried defenders, he had an eye for where the goal was and when central was able to get across defenders and score. Perhaps he’d have been better with an experienced partner. UTG! I am not a fan of us playing this "one up front", whoever it was struggled last season and it affected them and the team as they all seemed unclear where exactly they were supposed to be. I thought Ayunga up front with Daly next to him would have worked, their different styles would have complimented each other but none of the 3 managers seemed to believe that so must be me talking rubbish!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 15:58:10 GMT
Made a mistake when we let Ryan Broom go I watched him for come on against Millwall and could see he had a decent future Daly is similar there are worse players such as Barrett in the side that I would have liked to see go first.Problem is other teams are unlikely to be interested in him. The problem is Barrett is under contract, so what the club has to do is make them all available for free transfer, tell the players they arent part of the plans going forward and to find new clubs. Now it could be like Daly, he wants to play pro football, so is happy to tear up his own contract knowing he will get a similar contract somewhere else, have another club take over the contract he is on at Rovers, or be like Kyle Bennett and happy to suck up some cash, do nothing, and maybe get the occassional loan until his contract expires. IIRC, when we let Broom go, we had a plethora of seasoned experienced midfielders that he couldnt dislodge for a first team place and dropped into the league below with Cheltenham. At the time there was Lines, Mansell, Clarke, Sinclair, Sercombe, and Upson. That could have gone one of 2 ways, but it worked out for him. Perhaps we should have kept him, but its worth remembering the summer we released him was the season DC lost the plot, then GC had to firefight and brought in Abu Ogogo as well. I'm not sure if it would have done him any good to stay. Excellent points. Broom has done well but very possibly would never have got the chance to develop if we had kept him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 16:04:27 GMT
The problem is Barrett is under contract, so what the club has to do is make them all available for free transfer, tell the players they arent part of the plans going forward and to find new clubs. Now it could be like Daly, he wants to play pro football, so is happy to tear up his own contract knowing he will get a similar contract somewhere else, have another club take over the contract he is on at Rovers, or be like Kyle Bennett and happy to suck up some cash, do nothing, and maybe get the occassional loan until his contract expires. IIRC, when we let Broom go, we had a plethora of seasoned experienced midfielders that he couldnt dislodge for a first team place and dropped into the league below with Cheltenham. At the time there was Lines, Mansell, Clarke, Sinclair, Sercombe, and Upson. That could have gone one of 2 ways, but it worked out for him. Perhaps we should have kept him, but its worth remembering the summer we released him was the season DC lost the plot, then GC had to firefight and brought in Abu Ogogo as well. I'm not sure if it would have done him any good to stay. Excellent points. Broom has done well but very possibly would never have got the chance to develop if we had kept him. It’s a fair point but Broom was a winger.....
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Post by phillistine on Jun 3, 2021 16:18:14 GMT
James Daley reminds me of Dixie McNeil - a legendary goal scorer in the lower league. Dixie offered little but the ability to score goals and in the modern game would struggle to get in the team. Someone will play him as an out and out striker playing off a big man and he will score loads. I am going to put a tenner on him being top scorer in our league next season
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Post by alanrg on Jun 3, 2021 16:21:21 GMT
You are having a laugh injury prone player same has he was at Palace
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Post by pirate on Jun 3, 2021 16:27:15 GMT
You are having a laugh injury prone player same has he was at Palace So prolific at Palace they would sometimes play him at left back or wing back.
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Post by LJG on Jun 3, 2021 16:38:34 GMT
Scott McGleish had experience......I’ll withhold judgment until we see what he’s replaced with but if it’s someone like Akinde or Pitman I won’t be enthused. I presume you mean Pitman now. Pitman in his prime would be a different matter, surely? We can only dream of a striker like that! UTG! Ummm ... how would it be possible to have Pitman any other way than now? Surely, according to the laws of physics, it's too late to have Pitman before now?
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