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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 14, 2022 9:51:46 GMT
Can’t we just judge him by his results on the pitch ? That’s all I ever have and I imagine most Gas fans . People may judge him by any measure they choose. Lurching wildly from hatred to adulation and presumably back to hatred if he loses some games or his court case is enough to cause a heart attack. RD didn't lurch wildly from one to the other though. From reading his posts, you could see that he was gradually changing his mind about Mr Barton, the manager, as he could see improvements on the pitch. This continued as the season progressed, and he's been big enough to admit that he may have been a bit OTT earlier in the season - although I think the majority of us were guilty of that, whichever side of the fence we were on. He's formed a measured opinion on what he's seen during the whole season - nothing to induce a heart attack there.
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Post by tinner on May 14, 2022 10:27:18 GMT
You just know that those ridiculous hypocritical grovellers would have equally been on here with condescending “told you so” messages had we failed to make the play offs. Equally a bad start next year, and the usual suspects will be shooting their mouths off again. Where are the “not a penny” more brigade? Again I expect biding their time and waiting (hoping??!!) for a bad turn of form so they can start hammering the club. So I have no interest in ‘apologies’ etc, the actions/comments from many earlier this season were a disgrace! How were they a disgrace? Earlier in the season we were bottling games vs 9men, and our already disgraced manager had multiple new stories about him in addition to an extra court case. So please tell me how any comments about us being sh** or our manager being a piece of sh** that were disgraceful? I’ve seen worse posted about the likes of Buckle and McGhee but that’s okay bcos even though on the face of it they’re decent humans, they’re sh** managers so it’s deserved. This would all be water under the bridge if you lot didn’t keep bringing up the fact that some of us do not like Joey. Well how about for starters trying their upmost to undermine the club and no doubt influence Wael in getting riod of JB back in September.........fan power is quite influential and no doubt the messages on this site, coupled with the direct tweets to Wael, made his decision to retain JB so much harder.....I have no doubt that if they had got their way, Barton would have been sacked and we would have finished mid table at best.....instead we got promoted with best end to a promotion season possibly ever.......so forgive me for calling these people out but they were oh so close to ruining this!!!!!!! So yes I think their attitude was a disgrace!
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Post by lisbongas on May 14, 2022 11:04:02 GMT
Next thread perhaps will feature many on this forum who also wanted Wael out of the club also having an evangelical moment of apology, or have we had that already.
Interesting that the bond Joey has with Fans on a match day is not reflected in the comments on this forum.
We have a great President and a manager who has delivered on the pitch. Hopefully we can maintain progress next season.
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Post by kruger on May 14, 2022 11:12:50 GMT
Who is KDB?
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Post by gashead79 on May 14, 2022 12:18:59 GMT
How were they a disgrace? Earlier in the season we were bottling games vs 9men, and our already disgraced manager had multiple new stories about him in addition to an extra court case. So please tell me how any comments about us being sh** or our manager being a piece of sh** that were disgraceful? I’ve seen worse posted about the likes of Buckle and McGhee but that’s okay bcos even though on the face of it they’re decent humans, they’re sh** managers so it’s deserved. This would all be water under the bridge if you lot didn’t keep bringing up the fact that some of us do not like Joey. Well how about for starters trying their upmost to undermine the club and no doubt influence Wael in getting riod of JB back in September.........fan power is quite influential and no doubt the messages on this site, coupled with the direct tweets to Wael, made his decision to retain JB so much harder.....I have no doubt that if they had got their way, Barton would have been sacked and we would have finished mid table at best.....instead we got promoted with best end to a promotion season possibly ever.......so forgive me for calling these people out but they were oh so close to ruining this!!!!!!! So yes I think their attitude was a disgrace! You make some fair points.
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Post by Bolders on May 14, 2022 12:19:20 GMT
To who ever left that nugget on the toilet seat last saturday should also publicly apologise. X
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Post by fintanstack on May 14, 2022 12:23:47 GMT
To who ever left that nugget on the toilet seat last saturday should also publicly apologise. X Worst apology ever.
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 14, 2022 12:24:59 GMT
People may judge him by any measure they choose. Lurching wildly from hatred to adulation and presumably back to hatred if he loses some games or his court case is enough to cause a heart attack. RD didn't lurch wildly from one to the other though. From reading his posts, you could see that he was gradually changing his mind about Mr Barton, the manager, as he could see improvements on the pitch. This continued as the season progressed, and he's been big enough to admit that he may have been a bit OTT earlier in the season - although I think the majority of us were guilty of that, whichever side of the fence we were on. He's formed a measured opinion on what he's seen during the whole season - nothing to induce a heart attack there. Spot on Tilly, he did indeed modify his opinion in line with improved performances on and off the field, i think that is a very reasonable thing to do instead of a 'blanket' i will not change my opinion what ever happens.
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Post by baggins on May 14, 2022 12:31:57 GMT
Be honest, we all critised everything and anything to do with Rovers over the past 18 months. Players, Management, Roverdrive isn't alone. The chap has apologised even though he really didn't need to.
We're up, Lg1, let that sink in.
Time to chill out, enjoy watching Mansfield, Northapton, Port Vale, Swindon go through what we don't need to.
Up the Gas!
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Post by tinner on May 14, 2022 13:52:40 GMT
Be honest, we all critised everything and anything to do with Rovers over the past 18 months. Players, Management, Roverdrive isn't alone. The chap has apologised even though he really didn't need to. We're up, Lg1, let that sink in. Time to chill out, enjoy watching Mansfield, Northapton, Port Vale, Swindon go through what we don't need to. Up the Gas! Until we lose a few in league one and then the usual suspects will be out en masse, literally rubbing their hands in delight that they can have a good old moan…….
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Post by gashead79 on May 14, 2022 14:23:27 GMT
Be honest, we all critised everything and anything to do with Rovers over the past 18 months. Players, Management, Roverdrive isn't alone. The chap has apologised even though he really didn't need to. We're up, Lg1, let that sink in. Time to chill out, enjoy watching Mansfield, Northapton, Port Vale, Swindon go through what we don't need to. Up the Gas! Until we lose a few in league one and then the usual suspects will be out en masse, literally rubbing their hands in delight that they can have a good old moan……. Well hopefully not. Since we have all just experienced what CAN happen with patience, belief and positivity. The club did this against a huge amount of negativity in the media and on the terraces. I am hopeful that we can all reflect and remember what is achievable when the stars align. That should delay the onset of people moaning so soon into a rut whilst we will now have more believers.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 14, 2022 14:32:02 GMT
You just know that those ridiculous hypocritical grovellers would have equally been on here with condescending “told you so” messages had we failed to make the play offs. Equally a bad start next year, and the usual suspects will be shooting their mouths off again. Where are the “not a penny” more brigade? Again I expect biding their time and waiting (hoping??!!) for a bad turn of form so they can start hammering the club. So I have no interest in ‘apologies’ etc, the actions/comments from many earlier this season were a disgrace! How were they a disgrace? Earlier in the season we were bottling games vs 9men, and our already disgraced manager had multiple new stories about him in addition to an extra court case. So please tell me how any comments about us being sh** or our manager being a piece of sh** that were disgraceful? I’ve seen worse posted about the likes of Buckle and McGhee but that’s okay bcos even though on the face of it they’re decent humans, they’re sh** managers so it’s deserved. This would all be water under the bridge if you lot didn’t keep bringing up the fact that some of us do not like Joey. Buckle a decent human being? You've got to be joking. He said all Bristolians are "lady gardens*. Mario, I feel sorry for you. Your hatred for Sir Joey Barton seems to be getting in the way of you being happy that we're successful. I'm sure you're glad we're up but it doesn't seem it.
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Post by gruad on May 14, 2022 15:24:47 GMT
As many of you know I detest JB and outside of his footballing life I still do. However I do recognise that after his abysmal start he has got the team playing some of the best football I have seen at the Mem. It was stated that one person isn't bigger than Bristol Rovers and managers come and go so I should just ignore my feelings and support the team. They are right of course. I was one of the many to scoff at his ridiculous pledge that we would definitely get promoted this season. I may have been a bit hasty there!! I'm still not comfortable with him being our manager and representing the voice of the club (his early interviews were a bit of a car crash) but maybe over time he has learned to think before engaging mouth. A part of me hopes that Burnley do want him and he goes but as mentioned the club is more important and getting a stronghold in Div 1 is imperative - which it seems he is capable of making happen. All of this speculation is pointless if he is found guilty at his forthcoming trial but no point worrying about that until it is over. Bottom line is that I can't stand the bloke but he is good for Rovers and that takes precedence over my personal feelings. He has been to personal hell and back. People change, I hope you can cut him some slack
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Post by aghast on May 14, 2022 19:41:01 GMT
Kevin De Bruyne. I think the reference from Roverdrive may have been tongue in cheek.
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Post by kruger on May 14, 2022 20:34:25 GMT
Kevin De Bruyne. I think the reference from Roverdrive may have been tongue in cheek. I've been bloody googling it and everything, couldn't find anything so bit the bullet and asked on here lol
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Post by dinsdale on May 14, 2022 20:51:47 GMT
I don't want this post to come across as an overwhelming sense of over-importance - on the contrary, despite many flaws, I'd like to think one of my better traits is my ability to be open-minded and admit when I'm wrong. For that reason, I wanted to start this thread. I know many on here are well aware that I was anti-JB, and I fell out with many posters on here in the darkest (earlier) parts of the season. In fairness, when I was at my most vocal, the side were in the doldrums to say the least - even JB had verbally tendered his resignation; that's how bad it had got. At that point, I genuinely thought that it would be impossible for him to turn it round (at all! Let alone as spectacularly as he has). So not only were we not winning games, given I felt he let us down at the end of last season, and coupled with the two court cases, I genuinely believed it was madness to keep going. Yet here we are. First and foremost, JB has not been found guilty of either case - okay he could yet be found guilty of one of them, but that looks increasingly unlikely. Either way, the facts are that he hasn't - and that's huge for me. If he had have been there's no way I'd have ever come round. Secondly, Joey has gone on to prove - beyond any doubt whatsoever - that he is a man of his word: 1) We did get promoted 2) He has given us a team to be proud of, who deserve to wear the shirt On top of this, his recruitment has been astonishing. The "Joey Barton effect" has without doubt helped us to acquire talent we would previously have had no chance of getting (none more so than Billy). I've always believed man-management and motivation are THE two biggest skills any successful manager has in their locker (and that applies to any job) and Joey clearly has it in spades. The first time I truly got a glimpse/started to believe was the Swindon comeback - we dipped again slightly after and I feared another false dawn, but it was actually a taster for what was yet to come. For a long time I said that Joey getting us back to L1 would only "undo taking us down". I realise now there really were some terrible people (I won't use the word professionals) at this club previously and Joey has weeded them out and put us on the best standing we've been since the back-to-back promotion days of DC IMO. Therefore - and I would never have ever imagined saying this - but I believe he's already not only undone relegation (and I know even that is perhaps harsh) but, regardless, he has gone beyond that; he's bought life back to this football club; he's bought joy; and above all else he's bought pride. So to everyone who backed him - fair fc uking play to you. I've learnt a valuable lesson through this that no matter how unlikely something looks, it's never impossible if you keep working at it. I'm sorry to all those I argued with during the darkest days and I've never been happier to have been proven wrong. Joey; thank you so much for what you've done. I honestly have rarely felt so excited about the future of my football club (not hard I know! ). So please, stay out of trouble (!!) and just keep doing what you're doing. You won't catch me calling for your head next season - you have my full 100% belief in you now. UP THE FC UKING GAS!!!!! Why apologise? Its decent to not value many things associated with JB and those values are important and arnt altered by football victories. For a small pocket of fans this season has been brutal rather then exciting and happy and as such it is those who have missed out and suffered. Anway im hoping to find a way back to Rovers. Unlikely at the moment but im glad you have and that many decent people have had these happy memories that will last a lifetime.
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Post by Colyton Gas on May 15, 2022 10:31:43 GMT
Great article in today's Sunday Times re Joey.Rod Liddle's dissects Northampton's protest and ends with him saying that JB once said to Iain Dowie,'Stay out of it boxing glove face.' Great read and JB comes out of it very well.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 15, 2022 10:45:03 GMT
I don't want this post to come across as an overwhelming sense of over-importance - on the contrary, despite many flaws, I'd like to think one of my better traits is my ability to be open-minded and admit when I'm wrong. For that reason, I wanted to start this thread. I know many on here are well aware that I was anti-JB, and I fell out with many posters on here in the darkest (earlier) parts of the season. In fairness, when I was at my most vocal, the side were in the doldrums to say the least - even JB had verbally tendered his resignation; that's how bad it had got. At that point, I genuinely thought that it would be impossible for him to turn it round (at all! Let alone as spectacularly as he has). So not only were we not winning games, given I felt he let us down at the end of last season, and coupled with the two court cases, I genuinely believed it was madness to keep going. Yet here we are. First and foremost, JB has not been found guilty of either case - okay he could yet be found guilty of one of them, but that looks increasingly unlikely. Either way, the facts are that he hasn't - and that's huge for me. If he had have been there's no way I'd have ever come round. Secondly, Joey has gone on to prove - beyond any doubt whatsoever - that he is a man of his word: 1) We did get promoted 2) He has given us a team to be proud of, who deserve to wear the shirt On top of this, his recruitment has been astonishing. The "Joey Barton effect" has without doubt helped us to acquire talent we would previously have had no chance of getting (none more so than Billy). I've always believed man-management and motivation are THE two biggest skills any successful manager has in their locker (and that applies to any job) and Joey clearly has it in spades. The first time I truly got a glimpse/started to believe was the Swindon comeback - we dipped again slightly after and I feared another false dawn, but it was actually a taster for what was yet to come. For a long time I said that Joey getting us back to L1 would only "undo taking us down". I realise now there really were some terrible people (I won't use the word professionals) at this club previously and Joey has weeded them out and put us on the best standing we've been since the back-to-back promotion days of DC IMO. Therefore - and I would never have ever imagined saying this - but I believe he's already not only undone relegation (and I know even that is perhaps harsh) but, regardless, he has gone beyond that; he's bought life back to this football club; he's bought joy; and above all else he's bought pride. So to everyone who backed him - fair fc uking play to you. I've learnt a valuable lesson through this that no matter how unlikely something looks, it's never impossible if you keep working at it. I'm sorry to all those I argued with during the darkest days and I've never been happier to have been proven wrong. Joey; thank you so much for what you've done. I honestly have rarely felt so excited about the future of my football club (not hard I know! ). So please, stay out of trouble (!!) and just keep doing what you're doing. You won't catch me calling for your head next season - you have my full 100% belief in you now. UP THE FC UKING GAS!!!!! Likewise me old china. Eating humble pie isn’t as bad as i thought. I am not getting carried away though as there is lots to do and players to negotiate with plus the loss of billy. That will be a very difficult thing to sort.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 15, 2022 10:50:19 GMT
What on earth has Barton’s pass got to do with this? I am merely calling out the fickle, hypocritical supports who love to have a pop at any opportunity, and then simply change their tune when things go well…… But that is football, all over this country. It’s easy enough to browse other teams forums and see this although i have to say OTIB is , by far, the most hateful
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 15, 2022 10:57:59 GMT
De bruyne (sp) as i rarely watch any prem
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