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Post by SleepyGas on Jun 29, 2022 11:16:41 GMT
Not really. It would depend on the circumstances. You wouldn’t treat your child with compassion for becoming a drug addict, you would sort the problem out, if you were a decent parent. Not sure you understand what compassion is - sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others Sounds "woke" to me........
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 29, 2022 11:25:53 GMT
Not sure you understand what compassion is - sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others Sounds "woke" to me........ Too easy a reply. So, being what is basically kind and caring is woke, is that right ?
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 29, 2022 11:28:01 GMT
Not really. It would depend on the circumstances. You wouldn’t treat your child with compassion for becoming a drug addict, you would sort the problem out, if you were a decent parent. Not sure you understand what compassion is - sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others Yes. If I had a child addicted to drugs, I wouldn’t treat them with sympathetic pity and concern. I’d seen to understand and form a plan to change the behaviour, rather than to sympathise.
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Post by RD on Jun 29, 2022 11:30:56 GMT
Not sure you understand what compassion is - sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others Yes. If I had a child addicted to drugs, I wouldn’t treat them with sympathetic pity and concern. I’d seen to understand and form a plan to change the behaviour, rather than to sympathise. But by trying to understand you would be showing them sympathy
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Post by RD on Jun 29, 2022 11:31:12 GMT
Sounds "woke" to me........ Too easy a reply. So, being what is basically kind and caring is woke, is that right ? 99.99% sure it was a joke
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 29, 2022 11:34:14 GMT
Yes. If I had a child addicted to drugs, I wouldn’t treat them with sympathetic pity and concern. I’d seen to understand and form a plan to change the behaviour, rather than to sympathise. But by trying to understand you would be showing them sympathy Afraid not. I can understand the motives of a serial killer, but it doesn’t mean I sympathise with them. We have different words in the English language for a reason. It’s why I’ve used the word “understand” and not “sympathise”.
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Post by baggins on Jun 29, 2022 11:41:13 GMT
But by trying to understand you would be showing them sympathy Afraid not. I can understand the motives of a serial killer, but it doesn’t mean I sympathise with them. We have different words in the English language for a reason. It’s why I’ve used the word “understand” and not “sympathise”. Not sure I'll ever understand the motives of a serial killer.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 29, 2022 11:46:11 GMT
Afraid not. I can understand the motives of a serial killer, but it doesn’t mean I sympathise with them. We have different words in the English language for a reason. It’s why I’ve used the word “understand” and not “sympathise”. Not sure I'll ever understand the motives of a serial killer. or people that eat "serials" lol
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Post by baggins on Jun 29, 2022 11:50:09 GMT
Not sure I'll ever understand the motives of a serial killer. or people that eat "serials" lol Get out.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 29, 2022 12:13:33 GMT
or people that eat "serials" lol Get out. To be fair, there is a grain of truth in that.
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Post by baggins on Jun 29, 2022 12:18:00 GMT
To be fair, there is a grain of truth on that. Follow him.
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Post by RD on Jun 29, 2022 12:34:23 GMT
But by trying to understand you would be showing them sympathy Afraid not. I can understand the motives of a serial killer, but it doesn’t mean I sympathise with them. We have different words in the English language for a reason. It’s why I’ve used the word “understand” and not “sympathise”. Indeed - but in your example, the aim is to understand in order to help - ergo you are showing sympathy and compassion towards them.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jun 29, 2022 12:39:17 GMT
Personally I have no problem using cards,just choose not to , I prefer cash as I manage it better and don’t spend on a whim. I LIKE CHOICE ! 💙
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jun 29, 2022 15:38:55 GMT
🤣🤣🤣That was meant to be posted on ‘ cashless at the Mem ‘ ! Wrong thread 🤭💙
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Post by SleepyGas on Jun 29, 2022 15:43:05 GMT
Too easy a reply. So, being what is basically kind and caring is woke, is that right ? 99.99% sure it was a joke It 100% was But you can understand why Kingswood Polak might have taken it as a serious statement though as it does seem to be a dismissive word thrown at any person/organisation trying to "do the right thing"
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Post by percy on Jun 29, 2022 16:00:40 GMT
🤣🤣🤣That was meant to be posted on ‘ cashless at the Mem ‘ ! Wrong thread 🤭💙 It’s about as relevant as the rest of the posts so don’t worry.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 29, 2022 18:33:10 GMT
99.99% sure it was a joke It 100% was But you can understand why Kingswood Polak might have taken it as a serious statement though as it does seem to be a dismissive word thrown at any person/organisation trying to "do the right thing" I’ve not seen cancer charities and help for heroes etc described as “woke”, and they undoubtedly try to do the right thing. Perhaps it’s a fundamental disagreement on what “doing the right thing is”. Nobody really has a monopoly on that idea, although a lot of people think they do. Thank goodness supporting Rovers hasn’t been brandished as woke, as we all know, that’s indisputably the right thing to do.
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Post by oldie on Jun 29, 2022 21:33:06 GMT
Personally I have no problem using cards,just choose not to , I prefer cash as I manage it better and don’t spend on a whim. I LIKE CHOICE ! 💙 The spinning jenny was an obvious choice
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Post by Gasshole on Jun 30, 2022 4:58:28 GMT
Personally I have no problem using cards,just choose not to , I prefer cash as I manage it better and don’t spend on a whim. I LIKE CHOICE ! 💙 I prefer CHANGE…. Loose change , lots of it. It makes me feel good walking around jangling. If I fell in the Docks I’d drown. They could retrieve my bloated corpse from the bottom with a magnet though.
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Post by eric on Jun 30, 2022 7:12:29 GMT
I stand to be corrected, but domestic abuse is the one area where they will proceed with charges regardless of what the victim says, for obvious reasons. If they have bodycam footage of/or statements from her from the night, I’d be concerned. In saying that, the CPS proceeded with the Stendel case despite it being obvious there wouldn’t be enough certainty for a conviction so.. the fact that they wanted to proceed without taking a statement from his wife does not show the cps in a good light. The statement that "She has given an account some eight months later after the incident and in the Crown’s submission it is plainly an attempt to exculpate her husband." is quite an appalling thing to admit and they should have been taken to task over it. If they had listened to her statement then made that comment then fair enough - but to assume that they knew what she had to say and so didnt bother with taking a statement - is plainly wrong. It wasted public funds in having to go to trial a second time and seems to endorse the fact that they just want to nail JB because of who he is and perhaps because of their failure with the earlier case. I don’t know if anyone watches those fly on the wall type emergency services programmes but there was one on 5Action on Tuesday night (Inside the Force 24/7) which may be of interest on this subject. I’ve never really understood the victimless prosecution part or why the CPS seem so insistent on pursuing this case. It showed the Police being called to a city centre incident where a man was attacking a woman. The people monitoring the areas cctv immediately pointed their cameras and led the police towards the incident and identified the attacker for them. He was arrested on the spot but his female partner who was still on the floor didn’t want to press charges - he was arrested and taken to the cells. The next day he’s interviewed and answers “no comment” to all the questions. The detective asks the CPS to press charges on the strength of the cctv footage - its harrowing to watch as the guy is clearly seen punching her to the head about 4 or 5 times, the final blow sending her to the floor looking unconscious. She manages to then sit up and he volleys her in the face with great force. The next bit was quite staggering. The CPS said their guidelines were not to prosecute if there is no statement from the victim and the perpetrator had not been involved in any domestic violence during the last 12 months. This chap had a long history of such convictions but nothing that the police were aware of in the preceding 12 months so they had to let him go. The detective was rightly furious, questioned why they even bothered and said he might as well hand his badge in in. To add insult to injury they even had to give him a lift home! This incident took place in June 2021 - roughly the same time as JB’s incident is alleged to have taken place. It left me scratching my head as to why the CPS were so keen to pursue the JB case with barely any evidence when it appears totally contradictory to their own guidelines that were in place at the time? We often hear the mantra that celebs, politicians and the wealthy don’t have to live by the same rules as us plebs but it looks to me that they are treated worse.
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