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Post by bidefordgas on Jun 13, 2022 9:14:28 GMT
Any magistrate would find it very difficult to find JB guilty once his wife is given the opportunity to testify in court. It's quite obvious to me that is going to happen because at the previous hearing in spite of the prosecution wanting the case to continue, the magistrate on that day agreed an adjournment to 23rd June. Bodycam footage and no witness statements and his wife not requiring hospital treatment will make it very difficult to persuade a magistrate to find him guilty once his wife gives her support to her husband. Drink has played a big part in this and you need to remember that the magistrate is there to judge on this case alone and not on any previous convictions/ non convictions that JB has. Nothing to worry about then. Not at all! I'm on Magistrate duties in Wimbledon on the 23rd of this month.
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Post by SleepyGas on Jun 13, 2022 9:39:41 GMT
Nothing to worry about then. Not at all! I'm on Magistrate duties in Wimbledon on the 23rd of this month. Hahaha!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 13, 2022 10:45:11 GMT
I thought that we'd moved on from the "super-fans", "haters", "cult of JB" labels? Aren't we all Gasheads who may, or may not, have different opinions about the manager? Indeed. But then as soon as anyone mentions the trial they get shouted at for being a "BARTON HATER" etc. Anyway.. nothing wrong with being a Super Fan. Why would anyone take that as an insult? haha I actually quite liked being in "the cult" - that was a first for me!
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 13, 2022 17:04:01 GMT
Well the joy of getting promoted didn't last long Not really the fault of the fans that our manager has a pending court case that is a worthwhile point of discussion though is it? Love your profile picture by the way.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 13, 2022 17:17:05 GMT
Well the joy of getting promoted didn't last long Not really the fault of the fans that our manager has a pending court case that is a worthwhile point of discussion though is it? Love your profile picture by the way. No, although, it has rather been done to death on here already, and there are no new developments to make it a worthwhile point of discussion at the moment.
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 13, 2022 17:27:12 GMT
Not really the fault of the fans that our manager has a pending court case that is a worthwhile point of discussion though is it? Love your profile picture by the way. No, although, it has rather been done to death on here already, and there are no new developments to make it a worthwhile point of discussion at the moment. I agree. Most of the replies (including my own) have failed to address the valid, but unanswerable, question raised in the opening post.
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Post by titchthephot on Jun 13, 2022 18:35:40 GMT
Just playing devils advocate...I was watching the Chase and the answer to one of the questions was 'Dirty Den' from Eastenders. That got me thinking. The actor, Leslie Grantham, was very successful and his career was never harmed by the fact that he actually murdered someone!! So maybe Barton's misdemeanours are absolutely nothing in comparison and we shouldn't be worried whatever the outcome of his court case!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2022 18:37:26 GMT
Not really the fault of the fans that our manager has a pending court case that is a worthwhile point of discussion though is it? Love your profile picture by the way. No, although, it has rather been done to death on here already, and there are no new developments to make it a worthwhile point of discussion at the moment. Nail on the head , absolutely agree
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Post by Baxtinho on Jun 14, 2022 6:52:21 GMT
Just playing devils advocate...I was watching the Chase and the answer to one of the questions was 'Dirty Den' from Eastenders. That got me thinking. The actor, Leslie Grantham, was very successful and his career was never harmed by the fact that he actually murdered someone!! So maybe Barton's misdemeanours are absolutely nothing in comparison and we shouldn't be worried whatever the outcome of his court case! This isn't a good take. It's also irrelevant, as Wael has said that he's going to fire him if convicted. Though to take your point a bit further, I've seen some fans of his would be prepared to let him stay of found guilty, so I wouldn't be surprised if some would permit him a murder.
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Post by titchthephot on Jun 14, 2022 7:59:29 GMT
Just playing devils advocate...I was watching the Chase and the answer to one of the questions was 'Dirty Den' from Eastenders. That got me thinking. The actor, Leslie Grantham, was very successful and his career was never harmed by the fact that he actually murdered someone!! So maybe Barton's misdemeanours are absolutely nothing in comparison and we shouldn't be worried whatever the outcome of his court case! This isn't a good take. It's also irrelevant, as Wael has said that he's going to fire him if convicted. Though to take your point a bit further, I've seen some fans of his would be prepared to let him stay of found guilty, so I wouldn't be surprised if some would permit him a murder. I was just pointing out how differently public outrage is towards certain crimes within certain jobs. I personally believe that if Barton is found guilty he has to leave. Our connection to womens football would make it untenable for him to stay.....but let's just wait until the court case is over ...if it happens.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jun 14, 2022 10:15:53 GMT
Well the joy of getting promoted didn't last long Not really the fault of the fans that our manager has a pending court case that is a worthwhile point of discussion though is it? Love your profile picture by the way. From one Father to another Father Stack - you still into the jungle music ? No problem with the discussions but some use it to have a pop at the guy who got us promoted at the first time of asking so he deserves some respect - IMO
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Post by kylegas on Jun 14, 2022 10:50:12 GMT
Just playing devils advocate...I was watching the Chase and the answer to one of the questions was 'Dirty Den' from Eastenders. That got me thinking. The actor, Leslie Grantham, was very successful and his career was never harmed by the fact that he actually murdered someone!! So maybe Barton's misdemeanours are absolutely nothing in comparison and we shouldn't be worried whatever the outcome of his court case! This isn't a good take. It's also irrelevant, as Wael has said that he's going to fire him if convicted. Though to take your point a bit further, I've seen some fans of his would be prepared to let him stay of found guilty, so I wouldn't be surprised if some would permit him a murder. Depends who he murdered lmao
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Post by fintanstack on Jun 14, 2022 12:26:22 GMT
Not really the fault of the fans that our manager has a pending court case that is a worthwhile point of discussion though is it? Love your profile picture by the way. From one Father to another Father Stack - you still into the jungle music ? No problem with the discussions but some use it to have a pop at the guy who got us promoted at the first time of asking so he deserves some respect - IMO If you don't like it, tough. I had my fun and that's all that matters.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 14, 2022 13:15:20 GMT
From one Father to another Father Stack - you still into the jungle music ? No problem with the discussions but some use it to have a pop at the guy who got us promoted at the first time of asking so he deserves some respect - IMO If you don't like it, tough. I had my fun and that's all that matters. I’m alright jack take your hands off of my stack- Pink Floyd- money from Dark side of the moon. Todays society in one small post
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jun 14, 2022 14:19:56 GMT
Just playing devils advocate...I was watching the Chase and the answer to one of the questions was 'Dirty Den' from Eastenders. That got me thinking. The actor, Leslie Grantham, was very successful and his career was never harmed by the fact that he actually murdered someone!! So maybe Barton's misdemeanours are absolutely nothing in comparison and we shouldn't be worried whatever the outcome of his court case! This isn't a good take. It's also irrelevant, as Wael has said that he's going to fire him if convicted. Though to take your point a bit further, I've seen some fans of his would be prepared to let him stay of found guilty, so I wouldn't be surprised if some would permit him a murder. Am I right in thinking the initial accusation was in fact withdrawn ? if that is the case, then I would imagine Wael will want to reconsider the new charge now being brought forward by the C.P.S.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 14, 2022 14:55:21 GMT
This isn't a good take. It's also irrelevant, as Wael has said that he's going to fire him if convicted. Though to take your point a bit further, I've seen some fans of his would be prepared to let him stay of found guilty, so I wouldn't be surprised if some would permit him a murder. Am I right in thinking the initial accusation was in fact withdrawn ? if that is the case, then I would imagine Wael will want to reconsider the new charge now being brought forward by the C.P.S. Nope your thinking is totally incorrect, he still remains charged with assaulting Georgia Barton by beating.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jun 14, 2022 16:00:24 GMT
From one Father to another Father Stack - you still into the jungle music ? No problem with the discussions but some use it to have a pop at the guy who got us promoted at the first time of asking so he deserves some respect - IMO If you don't like it, tough. I had my fun and that's all that matters. If you ever say that to me again, I'll put your head through the wall.
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Post by kruger on Jun 14, 2022 16:27:29 GMT
I see we still have the odd fan trying to stir up sh**
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Post by phillistine on Jun 14, 2022 16:32:58 GMT
This isn't a good take. It's also irrelevant, as Wael has said that he's going to fire him if convicted. Though to take your point a bit further, I've seen some fans of his would be prepared to let him stay of found guilty, so I wouldn't be surprised if some would permit him a murder. Am I right in thinking the initial accusation was in fact withdrawn ? if that is the case, then I would imagine Wael will want to reconsider the new charge now being brought forward by the C.P.S. "Firstly, I think it is really important to confirm that as a club we stand firmly against any form of violence. Any individual that is found guilty of any such offences will be dismissed immediately. I understand the concerns expressed by a number of you. However, in line with the basic principles of British law, it is my view that you are innocent until proven guilty." This was the quote in the letter
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 17:06:44 GMT
He wont be going to Burnley anytime soon that jobs been filled.
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