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Post by keygas on Aug 17, 2022 10:22:25 GMT
Can’t argue that we were well beaten by a better side, but Barnsley definitely had a couple of fortunate breaks with their goals, the second took a wicked deflection which could have gone anywhere & the third, as Belshaw goes to clear the ball stuck in a pool of water & goes straight to the Barnsley player who fair enough finishes off superbly. Bad night at the office, feel sorry for the travelling gasheads , but it’s only 1 game & we move on.
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Post by eric on Aug 17, 2022 10:36:37 GMT
I don’t think last night merits a meltdown. League One is a tough division with some very good teams and historically bigger clubs. Everyone knows we need a few additions to strengthen our squad.
In my opinion we will be ok in this division and on any single occasion are capable of beating any of the teams. I don’t think we are going to be strong enough to be a top six side over a full season but hopefully JB can prove me wrong on that. To be able to compete in this division we need to be bang on top of our game, unfortunately last night was one of those days where an infectious low level of performance spread through the whole team with everyone under par. If we hadn’t conceded that soft early goal and didn’t have the bad luck of the second we may have been able to get a foothold in the game and had a better result but who knows? I suspect that having so many sub par performers last night it was a case of when not if the opposition would score a few past us.
Anyway, on to the next game and JB will more than likely get a good reaction from the team as he normally does following a defeat.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Aug 17, 2022 10:44:25 GMT
It was a case of being totally out muscled in midfield, with coutts, Evans and Finley looking nowhere near fit enough. Fair play to Barnsley they knocked us off our stride and didn't let us settle. Our defence looked like strangers, all of Barnsley dangerous moments came from us gifting them the ball in dangerous situations, more of our own making rather than good play by them. Our midfield offered our defence no protection, this was corrected at half time but then they go and stick one in from 25 yards, finley must do better there, didn't close down again. All 3 goals preventable, Belshaw should be disappointed with the first, but Hoole gave his man too much space. We tried hard certainly no lack of effort, had a fair bit of the game as well, but let's be fair we looked very poor defensively as a team. Hard to say if Barnsley are a good side? They certainly have good players, but feel they are well beatable, I wouldn't bet against us not taking 3 points off them at the mem. Should of started kilgore last night, would of been a better match against Cole, pushed Hoole to right back. Get our midfield 3 fit and get the right sided center back sorted and we will be more competitive.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Aug 17, 2022 11:29:12 GMT
We got spanked a few times in our first season back in League 1 under DC and sat comfortably mid table by the end of it. I’m confident with a few more additions we can crack on with a top half finish.
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Post by socrates on Aug 17, 2022 11:37:04 GMT
Next two home games coming up look very winnable. Next two away games look very tough. Think we can take 6-7 points from them though. The good thing about Barton’s team is they tend to bounce back well from a poor performance. On to Pompey.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2022 11:52:06 GMT
I think the Hoole centre back experiment needs to end and it’s time to look at Gibson. I'll get my tin hat on, but I think Connoly has been worse than Hoole so far this season.
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Post by Claremont Gas on Aug 17, 2022 11:55:44 GMT
I think the Hoole centre back experiment needs to end and it’s time to look at Gibson. I'll get my tin hat on, but I think Connoly has been worse than Hoole so far this season. No need for a tin hat - I think some (myself included) might agree. He needs a strong partner who takes the initiative not someone learning their trade. Lovely lad but his decision making, distribution or marking so far this season has not been as good as last year.
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 17, 2022 12:20:55 GMT
I'll get my tin hat on, but I think Connoly has been worse than Hoole so far this season. No need for a tin hat - I think some (myself included) might agree. He needs a strong partner who takes the initiative not someone learning their trade. Lovely lad but his decision making, distribution or marking so far this season has not been as good as last year. Disagree, not what I have seen. Hoole gave his man too much room for that first goal last night and he's had too many lucky escapes with poor marking and tracking runs. It's more likely that this is unnerving other defenders. The lad is a good full back, but not a centre back...well not yet
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Post by kruger on Aug 17, 2022 13:14:43 GMT
Well I blame last nights result on the ref, pitch, low flying plane, the man on the turnstile, ifollow camera man, floodlights and mavis in the pasty shop......oh sorry I thought I was on the Oxford forum!
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Post by Quarters on Aug 17, 2022 13:23:07 GMT
No need for a tin hat - I think some (myself included) might agree. He needs a strong partner who takes the initiative not someone learning their trade. Lovely lad but his decision making, distribution or marking so far this season has not been as good as last year. Disagree, not what I have seen. Hoole gave his man too much room for that first goal last night and he's had too many lucky escapes with poor marking and tracking runs. It's more likely that this is unnerving other defenders. The lad is a good full back, but not a centre back...well not yet So that's why Connolly passed to Thomas to present him with a great chance. And on Sat Connolly let the ball slide under his foot and Hoole had to react to block a chance. Both making mistakes as were the whole team last night. My view is lose the midfield and there defence struggles as attacks keep coming. And forwards struggle with no service. Yet these appear to be the two areas picked on. Not sure why Coutts stayed on till half time was he told to play on the toes of our CB's?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 17, 2022 13:36:50 GMT
I'll get my tin hat on, but I think Connoly has been worse than Hoole so far this season. No need for a tin hat - I think some (myself included) might agree. He needs a strong partner who takes the initiative not someone learning their trade. Lovely lad but his decision making, distribution or marking so far this season has not been as good as last year. I thought he was by far the best of a bad bunch at the back yesterday, though he did make mistakes, it’s true. I agree that we’d be better with a dominant centre back alongside him though.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 17, 2022 16:07:39 GMT
I don't understand why Hoole has suddenly been moved to CB this season? He looked really good at RB last season. I would like to know more details as to why we think CB is his position going forward?
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 17, 2022 16:17:07 GMT
I don't understand why Hoole has suddenly been moved to CB this season? He looked really good at RB last season. I would like to know more details as to why we think CB is his position going forward? It’s just that he doesn’t trust Kilgour and the new lad needs a bit of time In the long run Hoole will play right back I still think Barton will want a commanding centre back, we really miss Taylor UTG
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Post by playtowin on Aug 17, 2022 16:18:49 GMT
The suggestions, on here, are 4 or 5 new players in, so who's being dropped? Anybody can be dropped. If you sign a better player.
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Post by keygas on Aug 17, 2022 16:23:29 GMT
I don't understand why Hoole has suddenly been moved to CB this season? He looked really good at RB last season. I would like to know more details as to why we think CB is his position going forward? I honestly believe JB & the club thought we had a good chance of getting Connor Taylor back for another season, but when it didn’t happen it left us short, coupled sadly with the news of Nick Anderton & Alfie Kilgour’s fitness problems, it meant Hoole was our best option of filling that position. Hopefully once he’s up to speed the signing of Lewis Gibson from Everton should give us more options across the back line.
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Post by wertongas on Aug 17, 2022 16:54:27 GMT
We started that game with a defence made up of a wide midfielder and three defenders who prior to this season had no league one experience our left back only first team experience was a handful of games for St Albans , that is worrying we need at least one league one experienced central defender and one left back to come in, otherwise could be another heavy defeat on Saturday, we don't have enough experience or defensive quality at the back to cope with a decent attack. Should have kept Trevor Clarke did well at the end of last season and against Forest Green has league one and championship experience.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 17, 2022 17:12:35 GMT
I don't understand why Hoole has suddenly been moved to CB this season? He looked really good at RB last season. I would like to know more details as to why we think CB is his position going forward? I honestly believe JB & the club thought we had a good chance of getting Connor Taylor back for another season, but when it didn’t happen it left us short, coupled sadly with the news of Nick Anderton & Alfie Kilgour’s fitness problems, it meant Hoole was our best option of filling that position. Hopefully once he’s up to speed the signing of Lewis Gibson from Everton should give us more options across the back line. In that case why sign Gibbons early on in the transfer window, as he was clearly always going to be, when fit, our first choice RB. Does so well at RB he gets called up for Wales U21, then JB suddenly decides over the summer he's now going to be an L1 CB.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 17, 2022 17:21:42 GMT
I don't understand why Hoole has suddenly been moved to CB this season? He looked really good at RB last season. I would like to know more details as to why we think CB is his position going forward? It’s just that he doesn’t trust Kilgour and the new lad needs a bit of time In the long run Hoole will play right back I still think Barton will want a commanding centre back, we really miss Taylor UTG I would have gone along with that but Joey openly said he thinks Hoole is a CB going forward?
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Post by pirate on Aug 17, 2022 17:23:01 GMT
We started that game with a defence made up of a wide midfielder and three defenders who prior to this season had no league one experience our left back only first team experience was a handful of games for St Albans , that is worrying we need at least one league one experienced central defender and one left back to come in, otherwise could be another heavy defeat on Saturday, we don't have enough experience or defensive quality at the back to cope with a decent attack. Should have kept Trevor Clarke did well at the end of last season and against Forest Green has league one and championship experience. How much League One and Championship experience did Trevor Clarke have?
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 17, 2022 17:25:11 GMT
Yes we probably could do with a CH but I think some are using last night as proof of that when the CHs last night coped ok with what Barnsley did and won most aerial battles. The goals came from their players being given too much space in midfield and their players being allowed to run at us. Looks like a case of fitting a 0-3 loss into what we were saying about weaknesses at CH. it may be the case that we are weak there but that wasn’t what caused the result last night. Perhaps we will see Gibson partnering Connolly on Saturday. We really need to give the current CHs a chance to show what they can do, including Alfie who hasn’t really had a chance for sometime.
UTG!
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