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Post by baggins on Dec 22, 2022 12:25:03 GMT
I would be more than happy if we could develop a stadium similar to what Brentford have managed to achieve on a small area of land close to the Chiswick flyover. Modest in size ( approx 17500 ) the stands are close to the pitch & hearing from people who’s visiting the ground say it provides a cracking atmosphere, much better than some of these out of town soulless arena’s. That cost £75m to build and has a ceiling. I pass it every week on my way into london and I agree its a great little ground sqeezed into a small footprint. I would love to know what the ROI is on it and how long until its repaid. Being in the prem helps of course with the TV money for promotion, full houses due to the teams they are playing and that will have inflated any planned ROI for when it was under construction with them in the champ. I guess with it's location parking isn't a consideration as buses and tubes feed it quite well?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2022 12:46:19 GMT
What puzzles me is why Gorringe came here . He had a good gig ( I assume ) at premiership Brighton as head of sales or some title like that and left to come to little old Rovers . What prospect did he see ? Why leave a prem club for us ? Can’t be just about wages even if we did pay him more ( I doubt it) . I know he’s subsequently got an unforeseen promotion but he must have envisioned something happening here ? I asked the very same question meeting him a couple of seasons ago before he became CEO. He said that he had achieved everything he could at Brighton and hit a ceiling in effect. Whereas here, there was, and still is, plenty to be done. Makes sense if your the type of character who wants to be part of a building process, with plenty of improvements needed. Problem is, where building is concerned the options look very limited within the area that the majority of our support live. I'm with Holmes on this one, the build under Opal looked like a great proposition. With that development looking similar to QPR and to a smaller extend the Boleyn Ground. Four flat stands, close to the pitch,ideal to make the athmosphere more intense than opposing managers say it is at present. If there is a potential site available in North Bristol/South Gloucs that is suitable then someone please say where it is! I'm eternally grateful to Wael for the way he has given us a decent training ground. Like all owners before him he has so far failed to deliver in terms of a modern stadium, BCC have previously granted PP for the Mem, in fact I don't think they have ever rejected a proposal. The excuse of the Mem being an unsuitable location is farcicle when considering the amount of clubs in the 92 that play in the heart of a very busy area, almost said C*ty then! Really difficult to see anything happening if all Wael is doing is hoping suitable land becomes available.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 22, 2022 12:50:25 GMT
Iirc Wael has said redevelopment of the Mem is a no-go so it’s new or stay at the Mem as it deteriorates. We seem to love the Mem and a redevelopment could have been great to keep the atmosphere. Nearly 7 years now and in that time, taking it stand by stand it could have been finished by now. But the owner says no so no it is.
Can’t do match about it so need to enjoy the football and the success of the team which I do but with the ground as it is we’ll bounce around leagues 1 and 2 until the ground is sorted.
UTG!
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Post by keygas on Dec 22, 2022 13:27:34 GMT
I would be more than happy if we could develop a stadium similar to what Brentford have managed to achieve on a small area of land close to the Chiswick flyover. Modest in size ( approx 17500 ) the stands are close to the pitch & hearing from people who’s visiting the ground say it provides a cracking atmosphere, much better than some of these out of town soulless arena’s. That cost £75m to build and has a ceiling. I pass it every week on my way into london and I agree its a great little ground sqeezed into a small footprint. I would love to know what the ROI is on it and how long until its repaid. Being in the prem helps of course with the TV money for promotion, full houses due to the teams they are playing and that will have inflated any planned ROI for when it was under construction with them in the champ. Interestingly I’ve read that prior to Brentford moving to their new home, they had approx 6000 season ticket holders in the championship which is pretty similar to what we have now in league one. Obviously they sell out now they are in the premiership, but I’am sure if they would have remained in the championship their attendance’s would have increased dramatically because of the new stadium & I’am sure it would be no different for us if we could achieve something similar.
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Post by percy on Dec 22, 2022 13:29:00 GMT
I would be more than happy if we could develop a stadium similar to what Brentford have managed to achieve on a small area of land close to the Chiswick flyover. Modest in size ( approx 17500 ) the stands are close to the pitch & hearing from people who’s visiting the ground say it provides a cracking atmosphere, much better than some of these out of town soulless arena’s. That cost £75m to build and has a ceiling. I pass it every week on my way into london and I agree its a great little ground sqeezed into a small footprint. I would love to know what the ROI is on it and how long until its repaid. Being in the prem helps of course with the TV money for promotion, full houses due to the teams they are playing and that will have inflated any planned ROI for when it was under construction with them in the champ. Residential property £££ (on this plot and the old ground) a big reason wasnt it?
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Post by stapletongas on Dec 22, 2022 13:55:18 GMT
My opinion has never changed A football club needs to be in the community and be the heartbeat of that community and not banished to some trading estate on the outskirts. I believe we have a very good location. Develop the Mem. translated : The Mem is on my doorstep and I’d rather like to keep it that way Well that translation got lost then! I grew up near Royate Hill by Eastville Park. Back then it was not uncommon to find Rovers training in Eastville Park. I recall school holidays when that happened and there would be crowds of kids watching. I was there on occasions where Bobby Campbell would wind up the session, send the players on a run back to the stadium then stay behind with balls and cones and run a session for all the kids. After the session he would say, "right then, who's coming to cheer on the lads at Saturday's match". Just being able to go to matches as a kid without needing transport or adults to take you is significant. Having the stadium in the middle of the community is massive. A football club must be the heartbeat of the community, it must serve the community and then teh community will serve the club in return. Do you need any further translation?
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Post by keygas on Dec 22, 2022 14:11:00 GMT
IMHO I still believe our best hope for a suitable place to build a new stadium is something that was mentioned to me a few years back & that is when or if the purposed 18a junction between Emerson’s/ lyde green & the M4 is built, it would open a large corridor of land perfect for development & easily enough space for a stadium complex.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2022 14:14:29 GMT
IMHO I still believe our best hope for a suitable place to build a new stadium is something that was mentioned to me a few years back & that is when or if the purposed 18a junction between Emerson’s/ lyde green & the M4 is built, it would open a large corridor of land perfect for development & easily enough space for a stadium complex. I believe that site has already been turned down as an option for us although a stadium development is planned for there.
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Post by baggins on Dec 22, 2022 14:16:17 GMT
IMHO I still believe our best hope for a suitable place to build a new stadium is something that was mentioned to me a few years back & that is when or if the purposed 18a junction between Emerson’s/ lyde green & the M4 is built, it would open a large corridor of land perfect for development & easily enough space for a stadium complex. That, would be perfect.
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Post by baggins on Dec 22, 2022 14:16:47 GMT
IMHO I still believe our best hope for a suitable place to build a new stadium is something that was mentioned to me a few years back & that is when or if the purposed 18a junction between Emerson’s/ lyde green & the M4 is built, it would open a large corridor of land perfect for development & easily enough space for a stadium complex. I believe that site has already been turned down as an option for us although a stadium development is planned for there. A Stadium for what?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2022 14:29:50 GMT
I believe that site has already been turned down as an option for us although a stadium development is planned for there. A Stadium for what? Sport. Got to go, parcels to wrap.
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Post by CrispPusher on Dec 22, 2022 14:31:43 GMT
Sadly I fear us older generation who remember eastville etc will be long gone before any new ground appears,I'd love to be wrong but the last thirty years don't fill me with optimism. Tis the season to be jolly, falalalala, lalalala I know what you mean mate - I'm 57 and don't think I will see us in a new stadium I'm almost 32 and doubt I'll see it!
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Post by percy on Dec 22, 2022 14:42:07 GMT
IMHO I still believe our best hope for a suitable place to build a new stadium is something that was mentioned to me a few years back & that is when or if the purposed 18a junction between Emerson’s/ lyde green & the M4 is built, it would open a large corridor of land perfect for development & easily enough space for a stadium complex. Would have to do a very good job with it or it would be another soulless place with nothing around it and only accessible to most by car.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 22, 2022 15:01:48 GMT
translated : The Mem is on my doorstep and I’d rather like to keep it that way Well that translation got lost then! I grew up near Royate Hill by Eastville Park. Back then it was not uncommon to find Rovers training in Eastville Park. I recall school holidays when that happened and there would be crowds of kids watching. I was there on occasions where Bobby Campbell would wind up the session, send the players on a run back to the stadium then stay behind with balls and cones and run a session for all the kids. After the session he would say, "right then, who's coming to cheer on the lads at Saturday's match". Just being able to go to matches as a kid without needing transport or adults to take you is significant. Having the stadium in the middle of the community is massive. A football club must be the heartbeat of the community, it must serve the community and then teh community will serve the club in return. Do you need any further translation? Chill , I was only joshing . 😀 As a Rovers fan that’s always had to travel at least 10 miles to watch it doesn’t worry me if it Avonmouth , Fruit market or the Mem etc. Wherever we end up we’ll be in a community but maybe not on your doorstep.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Dec 22, 2022 15:15:17 GMT
I agree that any supporters who watched the Gas at Eastville back in the 70s will be very unlikely to every watch BRFC play in a new stadium, which is a great shame; Rovers is in safe hands with Wael, who has stabilised the club, unfortunately he also leads a fantastic life style away from Bristol, and probably does not have the time to put into building a new stadium. For the foreseeable future l expect to be going to the MEM with circa 8,000 others watching the Gas bounce between the current 1st and 2nd divisions.
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Post by percy on Dec 22, 2022 15:18:56 GMT
I agree that any supporters who watched the Gas at Eastville back in the 70s will be very unlikely to every watch BRFC play in a new stadium, which is a great shame; Rovers is in safe hands with Wael, who has stabilised the club, unfortunately he also leads a fantastic life style away from Bristol, and probably does not have the time to put into building a new stadium. For the foreseeable future l expect to be going to the MEM with circa 8,000 others watching the Gas bounce between the current 1st and 2nd divisions. My first Rovers game: Eastville 1978 My first game without my dad: Eastville 4th Jan 1986 Loved every minute at Twerton Off and on been a season ticket holder at the Mem despite moving 100+ miles away in 2000 First game in our new home: tba
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Post by lavalamp on Dec 22, 2022 15:53:23 GMT
I had a (very fanciful) dream one night - we bought the Civil Sevice Club and redeveloped it to use as a car park, training ground, club bar and club shop. (This was before we had our own training ground).
This could then be used by the community to bring in other sources of income/revenue as well.
The Memorial would also be redeveloped, with not so much parking needed on site - just for staff, players and disabled fans.
Aren't dreams and wishful thinking brillant?
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Post by Quarters on Dec 22, 2022 16:47:46 GMT
I had a (very fanciful) dream one night - we bought the Civil Sevice Club and redeveloped it to use as a car park, training ground, club bar and club shop. (This was before we had our own training ground). This could then be used by the community to bring in other sources of income/revenue as well. The Memorial would also be redeveloped, with not so much parking needed on site - just for staff, players and disabled fans. Aren't dreams and wishful thinking brillant? If you could get the Civil Service Ground and the football pitches next door then you would have a great size to redevelop. No chance though.
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Post by gas2 on Dec 22, 2022 16:59:30 GMT
GWe are where we are and where we will always will be stuck in a shithole stadium forever hope I am wrong
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 22, 2022 17:00:36 GMT
translated : The Mem is on my doorstep and I’d rather like to keep it that way Well that translation got lost then! I grew up near Royate Hill by Eastville Park. Back then it was not uncommon to find Rovers training in Eastville Park. I recall school holidays when that happened and there would be crowds of kids watching. I was there on occasions where Bobby Campbell would wind up the session, send the players on a run back to the stadium then stay behind with balls and cones and run a session for all the kids. After the session he would say, "right then, who's coming to cheer on the lads at Saturday's match". Just being able to go to matches as a kid without needing transport or adults to take you is significant. Having the stadium in the middle of the community is massive. A football club must be the heartbeat of the community, it must serve the community and then teh community will serve the club in return. Do you need any further translation? Since when did any Rovers club serve the community, probably before they sold out to the stadium company 1955?
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