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Post by gasify on Dec 23, 2022 0:00:01 GMT
What puzzles me is why Gorringe came here . He had a good gig ( I assume ) at premiership Brighton as head of sales or some title like that and left to come to little old Rovers . What prospect did he see ? Why leave a prem club for us ? Can’t be just about wages even if we did pay him more ( I doubt it) . I know he’s subsequently got an unforeseen promotion but he must have envisioned something happening here ? I can tell you why because I asked him once. He was commuting from Cardiff to Brighton and it became too much. I cant remember if he said he approached the club or some other fortuitous coincidence whereby we approached him but we had a vacancy and it worked out well. Hes implented ideas he seen at other clubs into ours and has been given the autonomy to modernise the club and I have to say its come on leaps and bounds.I think when he came in, he had this attitude. I can't help but think things have been forgotten somewhat. At the risk of ending up like a Monty Python sketch... .."What has Tom Gorringe ever done for us?"
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Post by gasify on Dec 23, 2022 0:08:46 GMT
What puzzles me is why Gorringe came here . He had a good gig ( I assume ) at premiership Brighton as head of sales or some title like that and left to come to little old Rovers . What prospect did he see ? Why leave a prem club for us ? Can’t be just about wages even if we did pay him more ( I doubt it) . I know he’s subsequently got an unforeseen promotion but he must have envisioned something happening here ? I asked the very same question meeting him a couple of seasons ago before he became CEO. He said that he had achieved everything he could at Brighton and hit a ceiling in effect. Whereas here, there was, and still is, plenty to be done. Makes sense if your the type of character who wants to be part of a building process, with plenty of improvements needed. Problem is, where building is concerned the options look very limited within the area that the majority of our support live. I'm with Holmes on this one, the build under Opal looked like a great proposition. With that development looking similar to QPR and to a smaller extend the Boleyn Ground. Four flat stands, close to the pitch,ideal to make the athmosphere more intense than opposing managers say it is at present. If there is a potential site available in North Bristol/South Gloucs that is suitable then someone please say where it is!I'm eternally grateful to Wael for the way he has given us a decent training ground. Like all owners before him he has so far failed to deliver in terms of a modern stadium, BCC have previously granted PP for the Mem, in fact I don't think they have ever rejected a proposal. The excuse of the Mem being an unsuitable location is farcicle when considering the amount of clubs in the 92 that play in the heart of a very busy area, almost said C*ty then! Really difficult to see anything happening if all Wael is doing is hoping suitable land becomes available. Filton Airstrip?
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 23, 2022 0:19:52 GMT
I asked the very same question meeting him a couple of seasons ago before he became CEO. He said that he had achieved everything he could at Brighton and hit a ceiling in effect. Whereas here, there was, and still is, plenty to be done. Makes sense if your the type of character who wants to be part of a building process, with plenty of improvements needed. Problem is, where building is concerned the options look very limited within the area that the majority of our support live. I'm with Holmes on this one, the build under Opal looked like a great proposition. With that development looking similar to QPR and to a smaller extend the Boleyn Ground. Four flat stands, close to the pitch,ideal to make the athmosphere more intense than opposing managers say it is at present. If there is a potential site available in North Bristol/South Gloucs that is suitable then someone please say where it is!I'm eternally grateful to Wael for the way he has given us a decent training ground. Like all owners before him he has so far failed to deliver in terms of a modern stadium, BCC have previously granted PP for the Mem, in fact I don't think they have ever rejected a proposal. The excuse of the Mem being an unsuitable location is farcicle when considering the amount of clubs in the 92 that play in the heart of a very busy area, almost said C*ty then! Really difficult to see anything happening if all Wael is doing is hoping suitable land becomes available. Filton Airstrip? UWE? 😇
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Post by Gastafari on Dec 23, 2022 2:30:45 GMT
A lot of posts on this thread highlights the absolute apathy that has always been deep rooted in the fans of this Football Club.
Why can't we aim big?
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Dec 23, 2022 3:03:58 GMT
In response to Op is making feel really excited with the here and now.
Not ideal, but excited by yesterday and tomorrow.
Out my hands other than continuous support, and just a lot of hope and luck.
We all want a new home, but above that (right now) is just some success and belief, and put it on wael to see if he can match joeys Ambitions.
Love Joey, he’s our biggest asset today. Big jan window ahead to really test our manager/ owner relationship.
Collins goes, wael will have to release funds, or it goes pop again?
I think no one’s going in jan, ideally, but not un realistic given lack of game time……. Eliot Anderson, Conor Taylor to return.
Think Conor could be a perm signing 🤞.
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Post by Gastafari on Dec 23, 2022 5:44:23 GMT
I would be more than happy if we could develop a stadium similar to what Brentford have managed to achieve on a small area of land close to the Chiswick flyover. Modest in size ( approx 17500 ) the stands are close to the pitch & hearing from people who’s visiting the ground say it provides a cracking atmosphere, much better than some of these out of town soulless arena’s. That cost £75m to build and has a ceiling. I pass it every week on my way into london and I agree its a great little ground sqeezed into a small footprint. I would love to know what the ROI is on it and how long until its repaid. Being in the prem helps of course with the TV money for promotion, full houses due to the teams they are playing and that will have inflated any planned ROI for when it was under construction with them in the champ. London Irish are tenants, I'm pretty sure they've built a college campus, Cafe's, bars and restaurants and nearly 1000 new homes as part of the development too. Plus the money they've received from being in The Premier League 2 seasons. Gtech have a 10 year naming rights partnership on the stadium which I imagine is pretty lucrative too Wouldn't be surprised if they're close to recouping back that £75M already
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 23, 2022 6:33:28 GMT
Aren't they based at Lockleaze Sports Centre as they don't seem to hold many events at the Mem apart from Hallowean/Xams parties etc, even the Academy has no connections to the Mem or The Quarters, the latter doing seemingly nothing for it's local community. Perhaps JB, assuming he intends staying in the medium term, could convince Wael that re-developing the Mem and keeping it a fortress is the way to go? I wonder what Wael (& his close family?) think about returning to watch games at the Mem after spending the last few weeks watching games in fantastic stadiums, it must be a bit sole destroying for him! I suggest you do some research or try speaking with Adam Tutton the Community Trust CEO who is a top bloke and works tirelessly. Maybe even visit their office at The Mem. Btw I was involved with a 12 week project that the Community Trust ran - it was at The Mem. www.bristolroverscommunity.org.uk/Why should I do "research" why doesn't the club highlight what the CT does, perhaps if we knew what it does at the Mem so many fans wouldn't have such a negative view about the stadium?
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 23, 2022 6:34:48 GMT
That’s not an example of clubs further down the pyramid. There are lots of good things that premier league clubs do for the community as well of course. Brentford being one of many. That was in response to the post saying the money men had taken over the top end.
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Post by gasify on Dec 23, 2022 6:45:02 GMT
I suggest you do some research or try speaking with Adam Tutton the Community Trust CEO who is a top bloke and works tirelessly. Maybe even visit their office at The Mem. Btw I was involved with a 12 week project that the Community Trust ran - it was at The Mem. www.bristolroverscommunity.org.uk/Why should I do "research" why doesn't the club highlight what the CT does, perhaps if we knew what it does at the Mem so many fans wouldn't have such a negative view about the stadium?They do, don't they? www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/news-archive/?category=123What kind of thing are you looking for?
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Post by Kipper on Dec 23, 2022 7:49:37 GMT
All this is so depressing. Have totally given up on our little club ever having a new stadium. New fans will be hard to come by whilst at the dilapidated Memorial Ground.
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Post by Sir Trevor B'Sol on Dec 23, 2022 7:56:01 GMT
The one thing we can all agree on is that doing nothing might be a better option than doing something for the sake of it.
The one thing we can ALL agree on is that we cannot ever ALL agree.
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Post by lavalamp on Dec 23, 2022 8:12:59 GMT
I suggest you do some research or try speaking with Adam Tutton the Community Trust CEO who is a top bloke and works tirelessly. Maybe even visit their office at The Mem. Btw I was involved with a 12 week project that the Community Trust ran - it was at The Mem. www.bristolroverscommunity.org.uk/Why should I do "research" why doesn't the club highlight what the CT does, perhaps if we knew what it does at the Mem so many fans wouldn't have such a negative view about the stadium? I suggested you do research so you don't post incorrect info. Rovers do retweet a lots of extremely good work the Community Trust does.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 10:00:58 GMT
I asked the very same question meeting him a couple of seasons ago before he became CEO. He said that he had achieved everything he could at Brighton and hit a ceiling in effect. Whereas here, there was, and still is, plenty to be done. Makes sense if your the type of character who wants to be part of a building process, with plenty of improvements needed. Problem is, where building is concerned the options look very limited within the area that the majority of our support live. I'm with Holmes on this one, the build under Opal looked like a great proposition. With that development looking similar to QPR and to a smaller extend the Boleyn Ground. Four flat stands, close to the pitch,ideal to make the athmosphere more intense than opposing managers say it is at present. If there is a potential site available in North Bristol/South Gloucs that is suitable then someone please say where it is!I'm eternally grateful to Wael for the way he has given us a decent training ground. Like all owners before him he has so far failed to deliver in terms of a modern stadium, BCC have previously granted PP for the Mem, in fact I don't think they have ever rejected a proposal. The excuse of the Mem being an unsuitable location is farcicle when considering the amount of clubs in the 92 that play in the heart of a very busy area, almost said C*ty then! Really difficult to see anything happening if all Wael is doing is hoping suitable land becomes available. Filton Airstrip? I think that ship has long sailed, the amount of houses and an arena development appears to have taken care of that site as a potential, could be wrong though as its a huge site. It was always the perfect site to build IMO, I remember the club saying they couldn't purchase the old Rolls Royce site as the cost of cleaning the contaminated soil was too high. Whoever built the warehouses and car dealership managed it OK. To think that site could have been our MK Don's stadium with a hotel and endless stream of daily income opportunities.
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Post by gasify on Dec 23, 2022 10:43:27 GMT
I think that ship has long sailed, the amount of houses and an arena development appears to have taken care of that site as a potential, could be wrong though as its a huge site. It was always the perfect site to build IMO, I remember the club saying they couldn't purchase the old Rolls Royce site as the cost of cleaning the contaminated soil was too high. Whoever built the warehouses and car dealership managed it OK. To think that site could have been our MK Don's stadium with a hotel and endless stream of daily income opportunities. It just feels like such an obviously missed opportunity. Loads of land, loads of infrastructure. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-63741455There must be a reason behind it (no, I am not in the know and no, I am not suggesting anything negative against the board).
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 23, 2022 10:46:53 GMT
That cost £75m to build and has a ceiling. I pass it every week on my way into london and I agree its a great little ground sqeezed into a small footprint. I would love to know what the ROI is on it and how long until its repaid. Being in the prem helps of course with the TV money for promotion, full houses due to the teams they are playing and that will have inflated any planned ROI for when it was under construction with them in the champ. I guess with it's location parking isn't a consideration as buses and tubes feed it quite well? I gotta be honest I wouldnt know, it's not a part of London I stop in or have to go to. I literally see it from the Chiswick/Hammersmith Flyover (whichever one it is) as i drive in.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 23, 2022 10:52:56 GMT
Unfortunately not such a thing as a community club anymore the money men have taken overfootball these days Its a good job we have Adam Tutton and the community trust who work tirelessly with the club to promote charity within Bristol. Anyone who thinks BRFC arent a community club only needs to look at the Xmas Hamper drive plus the video of Jacob to show we are at the heart of the community with our fans. But if by community you mean a few local just about millionaires running the club on a shoestring with a couple of volunteers here and there to throw a couple of ideas in then yes, those days are thankfully long behind us.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 23, 2022 10:57:59 GMT
What puzzles me is why Gorringe came here . He had a good gig ( I assume ) at premiership Brighton as head of sales or some title like that and left to come to little old Rovers . What prospect did he see ? Why leave a prem club for us ? Can’t be just about wages even if we did pay him more ( I doubt it) . I know he’s subsequently got an unforeseen promotion but he must have envisioned something happening here ? That's pretty easy. Bit of back stabbing here, a little there and before you know it you are CEO. Harsh, untrue and not fair. Let me jog your memory, his predecessors were Steve Hamer and Martymn Starnes, both left under a cloud of incompetence, one more than another I will admit.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 23, 2022 12:46:31 GMT
The one thing we can all agree on is that doing nothing might be a better option than doing something for the sake of it. The one thing we can ALL agree on is that we cannot ever ALL agree. After 50 years of waiting I doubt the club is ever just going to do it for the sake of it! I just wonder what's going on with the FM, assuming Congyer Inv. aren't proceeding could we go it alone or could alternative investors be found as I assume BCC still wants the site developed, or is another dead project? If it is then alternative sites don't seem in abundance.
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Dec 23, 2022 13:18:18 GMT
That cost £75m to build and has a ceiling. I pass it every week on my way into london and I agree its a great little ground sqeezed into a small footprint. I would love to know what the ROI is on it and how long until its repaid. Being in the prem helps of course with the TV money for promotion, full houses due to the teams they are playing and that will have inflated any planned ROI for when it was under construction with them in the champ. London Irish are tenants, I'm pretty sure they've built a college campus, Cafe's, bars and restaurants and nearly 1000 new homes as part of the development too. Plus the money they've received from being in The Premier League 2 seasons. Gtech have a 10 year naming rights partnership on the stadium which I imagine is pretty lucrative too Wouldn't be surprised if they're close to recouping back that £75M already Apparently Gtech are hoovering up a lot of the match day profits
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Post by baggins on Dec 23, 2022 13:20:35 GMT
London Irish are tenants, I'm pretty sure they've built a college campus, Cafe's, bars and restaurants and nearly 1000 new homes as part of the development too. Plus the money they've received from being in The Premier League 2 seasons. Gtech have a 10 year naming rights partnership on the stadium which I imagine is pretty lucrative too Wouldn't be surprised if they're close to recouping back that £75M already Apparently Gtech are hoovering up a lot of the match day profits You. Outside. Now.
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