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Post by gasonthemount on Dec 21, 2022 22:25:55 GMT
not an option.
If (and it is a big if) a new stadium is not going to be forthcoming for 5, 10, or more years, then it is feasible to spend money on the Mem if the pay back time is less than the time we remain.
As discussed elsewhere no one really knows what is happening (even though some pretend otherwise). And if we do go up to the Championship we will need to take some sort of action. Any business should have plans in place to deal with unexpected events and circumstances.
What business continuity plans do BRFC actually have?
We have come on leaps and bounds in terms of how we approach various aspects of running the club, even though we shoot ourselves in the foot now and again.
Surely Wael, Tom and the board must discuss some of these issues!
They say no news is good news but at the present time I feel like the silence is deafening.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 21, 2022 22:43:52 GMT
What puzzles me is why Gorringe came here . He had a good gig ( I assume ) at premiership Brighton as head of sales or some title like that and left to come to little old Rovers . What prospect did he see ? Why leave a prem club for us ? Can’t be just about wages even if we did pay him more ( I doubt it) .
I know he’s subsequently got an unforeseen promotion but he must have envisioned something happening here ?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 21, 2022 22:44:50 GMT
Problem is 5 years isn’t feasible to pay back on anything substantial. So we’re restricted to playing about with tents.
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Post by Gasshole on Dec 21, 2022 22:53:40 GMT
I was just over for a couple of games recently. Had some chow and a few drinks in the fan zone, then stood on the Thatchers terrace with my Dad and daughters.
Great football, great atmosphere and the win against Peterborough was the best day I’ve had for years. I’m 100 % sure that one day we will have a Stadium to be proud of, but for now I’m enjoying something that one day will be gone forever.
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Post by barumgas on Dec 21, 2022 23:44:29 GMT
not an option. If (and it is a big if) a new stadium is not going to be forthcoming for 5, 10, or more years, then it is feasible to spend money on the Mem if the pay back time is less than the time we remain. As discussed elsewhere no one really knows what is happening (even though some pretend otherwise). And if we do go up to the Championship we will need to take some sort of action. Any business should have plans in place to deal with unexpected events and circumstances. What business continuity plans do BRFC actually have? We have come on leaps and bounds in terms of how we approach various aspects of running the club, even though we shoot ourselves in the foot now and again. Surely Wael, Tom and the board must discuss some of these issues! They say no news is good news but at the present time I feel like the silence is deafening. I believe it was something to do with Santa's Grotto that swung it |
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Post by clockendgas on Dec 22, 2022 8:34:01 GMT
I was just over for a couple of games recently. Had some chow and a few drinks in the fan zone, then stood on the Thatchers terrace with my Dad and daughters. Great football, great atmosphere and the win against Peterborough was the best day I’ve had for years. I’m 100 % sure that one day we will have a Stadium to be proud of, but for now I’m enjoying something that one day will be gone forever. Sadly I fear us older generation who remember eastville etc will be long gone before any new ground appears,I'd love to be wrong but the last thirty years don't fill me with optimism. |
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Post by herbertblake on Dec 22, 2022 9:38:01 GMT
I supported the club at Eastville for 19 years and a further decade at Twerton Park and now 26 years at the Mem.
We are still in what I call the old third division have briefly spent some seasons in the second tier before our downward spiral to the basement division and the exit from the Fl thankfully a brief season.
I accept the Mem is limited but it feels like home and would prefer developing it rather than a soul less out of City stadium.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 22, 2022 9:54:00 GMT
I was just over for a couple of games recently. Had some chow and a few drinks in the fan zone, then stood on the Thatchers terrace with my Dad and daughters. Great football, great atmosphere and the win against Peterborough was the best day I’ve had for years. I’m 100 % sure that one day we will have a Stadium to be proud of, but for now I’m enjoying something that one day will be gone forever. Sadly I fear us older generation who remember eastville etc will be long gone before any new ground appears,I'd love to be wrong but the last thirty years don't fill me with optimism. Tis the season to be jolly, falalalala, lalalala I know what you mean mate - I'm 57 and don't think I will see us in a new stadium |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Dec 22, 2022 10:05:50 GMT
I am 77 and been with the Gas since the fifties,Eastville ,Twerton etc.Even flew over from RAF Laarbruch BFPO 43 in Germany three times a season to watch the gas from the North Enclosure during the sixties and then the RAF posted me to to Stafford where I commuted for 50 years to watch my team.
Won't see any new stadium but would settle for a south tent replacement before I disappear!!!!
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Post by playtowin on Dec 22, 2022 10:32:02 GMT
WHEN.
We move to a new stadium will there be any fans who have watched Rovers at all the football league Home venues including temporary ones and major structural changes ?
Eastville. (Pre north stand ,the covered terrace)
Eastville.(with north stand)
Ashton gate.
Eastville (minus south stand).
Twerton park.
Memorial ground.(as co owners. No north terrace roof or south stand and pre opening of west stand)
Memorial stadium.(as owners)
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Post by stapletongas on Dec 22, 2022 10:32:37 GMT
My opinion has never changed
A football club needs to be in the community and be the heartbeat of that community and not banished to some trading estate on the outskirts.
I believe we have a very good location.
Develop the Mem.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 22, 2022 10:39:49 GMT
My opinion has never changed A football club needs to be in the community and be the heartbeat of that community and not banished to some trading estate on the outskirts. I believe we have a very good location. Develop the Mem. I doubt it will happen,but totally agree👍💙Utg |
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Post by ashlinggas on Dec 22, 2022 11:07:02 GMT
What do we actually need? In a decent stadium where you could bring kids and older people to sit down out of the rain, with the team doing well I reckon we could build to regular 10-14k gates over a season or two. Anything bigger than 15k is unnecessary. I've read a lot on here over the years about why redeveloping the Mem isn't feasible, but I don't really get it. I'm sure we've all done that thing of scanning the ground and picturing where the seats go. I'm 65 and have been watching since 1966. I'll keep going whatever, but even I am running out of patience
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2022 11:24:17 GMT
What do we actually need? In a decent stadium where you could bring kids and older people to sit down out of the rain, with the team doing well I reckon we could build to regular 10-14k gates over a season or two. Anything bigger than 15k is unnecessary. I've read a lot on here over the years about why redeveloping the Mem isn't feasible, but I don't really get it. I'm sure we've all done that thing of scanning the ground and picturing where the seats go. I'm 65 and have been watching since 1966. I'll keep going whatever, but even I am running out of patience I agree with you. The original plan to redevelop the Mem was viable until the Student Accommodation provider (Opal) pulled out and was only dumped in favour of The UWE scheme which was even more lucrative according to Higgs. The original scheme followed the Orient scheme of building accommodation to pay for the redevelopment and more recently Exeter City did the same by selling off the car park behind the Big Bank to rebuild the old Grandstand and a few bob left over to put a roof on the away terrace. Different scale but proves the funding can add up. Gloucestershire CC also used the same enabling funding to redevelop The County Ground. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 22, 2022 11:42:22 GMT
My opinion has never changed A football club needs to be in the community and be the heartbeat of that community and not banished to some trading estate on the outskirts. I believe we have a very good location. Develop the Mem. translated : The Mem is on my doorstep and I’d rather like to keep it that way |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 22, 2022 11:43:42 GMT
What do we actually need? In a decent stadium where you could bring kids and older people to sit down out of the rain, with the team doing well I reckon we could build to regular 10-14k gates over a season or two. Anything bigger than 15k is unnecessary. I've read a lot on here over the years about why redeveloping the Mem isn't feasible, but I don't really get it. I'm sure we've all done that thing of scanning the ground and picturing where the seats go. I'm 65 and have been watching since 1966. I'll keep going whatever, but even I am running out of patience I think that a modernised ground would bring in a bigger crowd and we would certainly need that when we get into the Championship which would attract a larger crowd. I guess that the location of the Mem prevents any other uses (gigs etc.,) |
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Post by Quarters on Dec 22, 2022 12:02:33 GMT
When we first moved to the Mem driving up and parking was easier.
This has become more and more difficult over the years.
Increasing the attendance with a modernised stadium would require infrastructure changes. Would better park and rides be available?
Of course this may apply to any new stadium but there is probably more options to develop somewhere else.
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Post by keygas on Dec 22, 2022 12:05:27 GMT
I would be more than happy if we could develop a stadium similar to what Brentford have managed to achieve on a small area of land close to the Chiswick flyover.
Modest in size ( approx 17500 ) the stands are close to the pitch & hearing from people who have visited the ground saying it provides a cracking atmosphere, much better than some of these out of town soulless arena’s.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 22, 2022 12:14:11 GMT
What puzzles me is why Gorringe came here . He had a good gig ( I assume ) at premiership Brighton as head of sales or some title like that and left to come to little old Rovers . What prospect did he see ? Why leave a prem club for us ? Can’t be just about wages even if we did pay him more ( I doubt it) . I know he’s subsequently got an unforeseen promotion but he must have envisioned something happening here ? I can tell you why because I asked him once. He was commuting from Cardiff to Brighton and it became too much. I cant remember if he said he approached the club or some other fortuitous coincidence whereby we approached him but we had a vacancy and it worked out well. Hes implented ideas he seen at other clubs into ours and has been given the autonomy to modernise the club and I have to say its come on leaps and bounds. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 22, 2022 12:17:33 GMT
I would be more than happy if we could develop a stadium similar to what Brentford have managed to achieve on a small area of land close to the Chiswick flyover. Modest in size ( approx 17500 ) the stands are close to the pitch & hearing from people who’s visiting the ground say it provides a cracking atmosphere, much better than some of these out of town soulless arena’s. That cost £75m to build and has a ceiling. I pass it every week on my way into london and I agree its a great little ground sqeezed into a small footprint. I would love to know what the ROI is on it and how long until its repaid. Being in the prem helps of course with the TV money for promotion, full houses due to the teams they are playing and that will have inflated any planned ROI for when it was under construction with them in the champ. |
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