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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 13, 2016 16:30:10 GMT
French prosecutors have said some 150 Russians were the cause of the trouble in Marseille. Shame on everyone who blamed England fans when it was clear as day they were not to blame and were attacked. Once again, the British introduce a sport to the world, only to get beaten at our own game by foreigners who take it more seriously, and play it more cynically.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 13, 2016 18:05:21 GMT
French prosecutors have said some 150 Russians were the cause of the trouble in Marseille. Shame on everyone who blamed England fans when it was clear as day they were not to blame and were attacked. What about the English fans being found guilty of throwing bottles today by the French courts? Our own fans aren't all innocent.
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Post by youmadethatup on Jun 13, 2016 18:15:35 GMT
French prosecutors have said some 150 Russians were the cause of the trouble in Marseille. Shame on everyone who blamed England fans when it was clear as day they were not to blame and were attacked. What about the English fans being found guilty of throwing bottles today by the French courts? Our own fans aren't all innocent. Are they the chef and the psychiatric nurse who got 3 months in jail ?
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Post by baggins on Jun 13, 2016 18:29:03 GMT
French prosecutors have said some 150 Russians were the cause of the trouble in Marseille. Shame on everyone who blamed England fans when it was clear as day they were not to blame and were attacked. What about the English fans being found guilty of throwing bottles today by the French courts? Our own fans aren't all innocent. Take a read of the Football Supporters Federation website and if you can find it, hear the interview from BBC News this morning.
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Post by Big Jock on Jun 13, 2016 18:40:58 GMT
Ah shouldnae laff really, but thit Russian MP on Twitter wis feckin hilarious earlier think he mussa bin oan th' Voddy! Vladislav Zhukov (Russian MP) - "If England fans don't want to get beaten up they shouldn't go to football matches. They are babies." #ENG
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Post by baggins on Jun 13, 2016 18:44:00 GMT
Ah shouldnae laff really, but thit Russian MP on Twitter wis feckin hilarious earlier think he mussa bin oan th' Voddy! Vladislav Zhukov (Russian MP) - "If England fans don't want to get beaten up they shouldn't go to football matches. They are babies." #ENG Yea, and apparently Russian fans would only have attacked fans in the ground if they were provoked. And this lot host the World Cup soon?
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Post by milesy83 on Jun 13, 2016 19:04:12 GMT
Stuff the euros,I want justice for people who are seriously injured in hospital!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 19:24:41 GMT
French prosecutors have said some 150 Russians were the cause of the trouble in Marseille. Shame on everyone who blamed England fans when it was clear as day they were not to blame and were attacked. What about the English fans being found guilty of throwing bottles today by the French courts? Our own fans aren't all innocent. Unfortunately England do still have an "element" of fans who are up for it when the opportunity presents itself - probably always will have. However, the policing of this tournament has been very odd, the Robocops seem happy to sit back and watch things build up and then randomly fire tear gas - with a lot of innocent people getting caught up in the fallout. How did they miss all those body-builder type Russians in the black T-shirts heading towards the England fans? Nicking people throwing bottles seems a bit of a cop-out, when the Russian meatheads were literally caving people's heads in with their prolonged attacks.
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Post by baggins on Jun 13, 2016 19:49:15 GMT
What about the English fans being found guilty of throwing bottles today by the French courts? Our own fans aren't all innocent. Unfortunately England do still have an "element" of fans who are up for it when the opportunity presents itself - probably always will have. However, the policing of this tournament has been very odd, the Robocops seem happy to sit back and watch things build up and then randomly fire tear gas - with a lot of innocent people getting caught up in the fallout. How did they miss all those body-builder type Russians in the black T-shirts heading towards the England fans? Nicking people throwing bottles seems a bit of a cop-out, when the Russian meatheads were literally caving people's heads in with their prolonged attacks. If fans can see the Russians putting on death masks, balaclavas, tooling up for an attack, meeting up in pre arranged areas, why can't the French Police? Even worse that they are joining up with local French thugs. And then? Well, English fans in hospital and the only Country to have arrests. This is looking like a set up to me.
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Post by aghast on Jun 13, 2016 19:52:27 GMT
Ah shouldnae laff really, but thit Russian MP on Twitter wis feckin hilarious earlier think he mussa bin oan th' Voddy! Vladislav Zhukov (Russian MP) - "If England fans don't want to get beaten up they shouldn't go to football matches. They are babies." #ENG Yea, and apparently Russian fans would only have attacked fans in the ground if they were provoked. And this lot host the World Cup soon? But they really want it. They cancelled building 20 hospitals to raise the funds to pay FIFA to win the vote. So a bloke in the pub told me.
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Post by baggins on Jun 13, 2016 19:54:36 GMT
Yea, and apparently Russian fans would only have attacked fans in the ground if they were provoked. And this lot host the World Cup soon? But they really want it. They cancelled building 20 hospitals to raise the funds to pay FIFA to win the vote. So a bloke in the pub told me. This bloke, furry hat, strange accent?
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Post by yategas78 on Jun 13, 2016 20:48:07 GMT
We and others must boycott the 2018 World Cup everyone knows it was won on the strength of back handers to Blatter and company, surely FIFA will have to change the venue if enough countries protest, it will be a crap tournament anyway who would want to go over there---not to dodgy then!!!
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Post by baggins on Jun 13, 2016 21:02:35 GMT
We and others must boycott the 2018 World Cup everyone knows it was won on the strength of back handers to Blatter and company, surely FIFA will have to change the venue if enough countries protest, it will be a crap tournament anyway who would want to go over there---not to dodgy then!!! FIFA lost their balls round about the time they became rich.
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Post by syg on Jun 13, 2016 21:45:49 GMT
Russia v Slovakia (also major hooligan prob), Wales v England, no shortage of Cardiff city fans trying to provoke problems. Great!!!! Uefa have set themselves up now.
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Post by gregsy on Jun 13, 2016 21:55:03 GMT
I say send all these so called 'Russian ultra's' down the mem....
we'll meet them at the round table over a game of scrabble....
then they'll know who the daddies are....
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jun 14, 2016 2:14:23 GMT
Had it with the Euro's, will only watch the England games. Cant wait for the Rovers preseason friendlies. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 5:51:03 GMT
Fair comment. If I was there I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in a small group I'd want to be surrounded by as many England fans as possible. Yup although from what i've read i'm glad i'm sat on me sofa, from a link posted earlier a lot of the russians are boxers/mma fighters etc. So quite difficult to defend against. There was trouble for the Irish as well, still spose many on here will blame us English fer that too Don't do much against a brick. I'd end up on a murder charge. I Dam hate tattooed, steroid MMA type assholes. Insecure, and living a life purely to present an image like a teenage girl putting on make up. I'm sure there's decent folks who just like MMA, I like a bit of boxing, but I do wonder what is driving the need to dedicate your life to beating and gouging other human beings. National service and the army are the answer for narcissist sociopaths.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 5:57:53 GMT
On another topic, I heard a radio talk show where basically all the callers and the presenters were kind of saying that Russians are all gangsters, drug cheats, gay bashers or hookers.
It's funny just as we have conflict with Russia, we all hate Russians again. I can speak a fair amount and have had several Russian GF and I can safely say that is not the case, and the looks and assumptions people make once they hear the accent are plain.
Many Russian people have a deep respect and love for Britain and don't let this cloud your judgement. They do come off a little rude on holiday but remember, it was ravaged by Bolshevism for years and is therefore very poor in places and a "dog eat dog" attitude is the only survival tool if you are run by communists for 80 odd years.
Taking gangsters and oligarchs aside, Russians are rude to strangers. Once you are properly known you will find friendship is often a deeper affair than here and they will literally give you the shirt off their back.
Still, their ultras are at fault here and the Moscow papers comments are ridiculous
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Post by bluegas on Jun 14, 2016 7:39:19 GMT
On another topic, I heard a radio talk show where basically all the callers and the presenters were kind of saying that Russians are all gangsters, drug cheats, gay bashers or hookers. It's funny just as we have conflict with Russia, we all hate Russians again. I can speak a fair amount and have had several Russian GF and I can safely say that is not the case, and the looks and assumptions people make once they hear the accent are plain. Many Russian people have a deep respect and love for Britain and don't let this cloud your judgement. They do come off a little rude on holiday but remember, it was ravaged by Bolshevism for years and is therefore very poor in places and a "dog eat dog" attitude is the only survival tool if you are run by communists for 80 odd years. Taking gangsters and oligarchs aside, Russians are rude to strangers. Once you are properly known you will find friendship is often a deeper affair than here and they will literally give you the shirt off their back. Still, their ultras are at fault here and the Moscow papers comments are ridiculous There's probably more to this than meets the eye. Consider - referendum next week in UK over leaving EU. Just the right moment to cause aggro between England & Europe. Breakup of Europe would certainly suit one Vladimir Putin.....
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jun 14, 2016 7:45:02 GMT
We should really take out the positives from the tournament so far. UEFA haven't had to deal with any allegations of racism against the host nations and most importantly UEFA haven't had to impose the really big fines for wearing a pair of Paddy Power boxer shorts. Judged that way it's been a complete success....so far
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