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Post by countygroundhotel on Sept 8, 2016 19:02:01 GMT
Strange. I went in to buy my season ticket in the summer, and filled out the renewal form for my grandsons s/t and it took me all of a minute. Really can't understand why it's difficult. All you need to remember is the photographs. I didn't take photos or birth certificates. I took money and am known to the staff. It is a rubbish system. I understand needing all the proofs initially, but to renew is ott. The kids are off the database now which is another failure on the clubs behalf in terms of future business. You don't need proofs to renew. I also didn't sit around waiting for the someone from the club to hold my hand. And the god children will appreciate it, even if I have to tell them they do.
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Post by womble on Sept 8, 2016 19:02:24 GMT
I assume the accountants will be checking that the favoured option is capable of producing the income streams that the Al Qadis are hoping it will. Seems a bit late in the day to do that now? But as I posted on the UWE thread, what happens if the accountants feasibility report now suggests its not feasible when the UWE is said ti the only option? I'm surprised GT didn't question Wael more on that point. Your guess is as good as mine, but this far down the road you'd be hoping that they're pretty sure of their figures and just want them confirmed.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Sept 8, 2016 19:03:43 GMT
The worrying thing is that if it's not feasible and we don't have an alternative site is we will still be at the mem in five years. Can't see wael sticking around that long without a stadium.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 19:17:43 GMT
I didn't take photos or birth certificates. I took money and am known to the staff. It is a rubbish system. I understand needing all the proofs initially, but to renew is ott. The kids are off the database now which is another failure on the clubs behalf in terms of future business. You don't need proofs to renew. I also didn't sit around waiting for the someone from the club to hold my hand. And the god children will appreciate it, even if I have to tell them they do. Not sure what you are trying to say tbh. Seems a bit sarcy? Point being, I am a fairly staunch Gashead. I have brought my kids up to be interested in Rovers. I don't think the club are maximizing opportunities. If there are forum members who want to have a dig or tell me I'm some sort of saddo, that's fine. If things were simpler, there would be more future fans. That is a point without contest. Things could be made simpler very very easily.
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Post by kylegas on Sept 8, 2016 19:17:55 GMT
2 more years from the start of build not 2 more years from now Well, he's pretty careful about what he says, but, istm, that was what he was hinting. Might be wrong, though. He said it's a two year build, but it's actually 62 weeks. He said "well if we were to start building today it would be 2 years, but he didn't say when we'd start building.. So you're right he is careful in that he indicated it could still be any amount of time, I didn't take any hint from it personally, it was just the usual avoidance of specifics
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 8, 2016 19:29:21 GMT
The worrying thing is that if it's not feasible and we don't have an alternative site is we will still be at the mem in five years. Can't see wael sticking around that long without a stadium. Still think he could cut his losses and walk without losing too much on the deal so far and find another club if the UWE turns out not to be feasible, but are any accountants really going to say blowing £50m on a football stadium is feasible for a Div 1 club?
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Post by toddy1953 on Sept 8, 2016 19:29:43 GMT
Back in the early days after the takeover SH said of UWE, we know what we want but there may need to be some compromise on both sides (words to that effect). After listening to Wael tonight, I would think both parties have had to compromise & the feasibility study is to ensure we get what we think we will be getting out of the deal - seems perfectly sensible to me. He said the study will be done in a couple of weeks. The more I hear & see of Wael, the more I feel he is not stringing us along, like the last lot. Yes I would have liked to hear dates etc., from him tonight, but I am happy he is doing the very best for our club.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Sept 8, 2016 19:29:54 GMT
You don't need proofs to renew. I also didn't sit around waiting for the someone from the club to hold my hand. And the god children will appreciate it, even if I have to tell them they do. Not sure what you are trying to say tbh. Seems a bit sarcy? Point being, I am a fairly staunch Gashead. I have brought my kids up to be interested in Rovers. I don't think the club are maximizing opportunities. If there are forum members who want to have a dig or tell me I'm some sort of saddo, that's fine. If things were simpler, there would be more future fans. That is a point without contest. Things could be made simpler very very easily. Was very simple I filled out 2 forms, said they were renewing from last year & hey presto all done. As a point to maximising opportunities though the ground has a fixed capacity so even though I have signed them up for the West Enclosure I was told there would be limited availability there this season so we would need to phone up early to get tickets & Saturday will be their first game this season. I personally thought the sarcasm was coming from you as I fail to see what was hard, complicated or hidden about the process of renewing u11 tickets.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 19:30:49 GMT
The feasibility study this late in the day doesn't add up. All figures would've been done a very long time ago as Wael knew from the Higgs deal what his targets would be and where to start renegotiating with UWE. That has got to be a red herring. I think the feasibility study is more to,do with a MEM redevelopment than the UWE deal.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 8, 2016 19:34:16 GMT
You don't need proofs to renew. I also didn't sit around waiting for the someone from the club to hold my hand. And the god children will appreciate it, even if I have to tell them they do. Not sure what you are trying to say tbh. Seems a bit sarcy? Point being, I am a fairly staunch Gashead. I have brought my kids up to be interested in Rovers. I don't think the club are maximizing opportunities. If there are forum members who want to have a dig or tell me I'm some sort of saddo, that's fine. If things were simpler, there would be more future fans. That is a point without contest. Things could be made simpler very very easily. If think it's the old argument but if the Mem is already getting filled to near capacity then its pointless the club going OTT to attract youngsters. If we ever start work on the UWE things will need to change.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 8, 2016 19:35:58 GMT
The feasibility study this late in the day doesn't add up. All figures would've been done a very long time ago as Wael knew from the Higgs deal what his targets would be and where to start renegotiating with UWE. That has got to be a red herring. I think the feasibility study is more to,do with a MEM redevelopment than the UWE deal. I think it's give and take. We were selling all the silver to UWE under Higgs and we want it back. Perhaps some agreement.ts in principle have been made and this is just to make sure we are happy with what we will get out of it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 19:36:16 GMT
Not sure what you are trying to say tbh. Seems a bit sarcy? Point being, I am a fairly staunch Gashead. I have brought my kids up to be interested in Rovers. I don't think the club are maximizing opportunities. If there are forum members who want to have a dig or tell me I'm some sort of saddo, that's fine. If things were simpler, there would be more future fans. That is a point without contest. Things could be made simpler very very easily. If think it's the old argument but if the Mem is already getting filled to near capacity then its pointless the club going OTT to attract youngsters. If we ever start work on the UWE things will need to change. IT is never too late to start attracting new supporters. Especially young ones,the future of the Rovers support.
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 8, 2016 19:36:33 GMT
You don't need proofs to renew. I also didn't sit around waiting for the someone from the club to hold my hand. And the god children will appreciate it, even if I have to tell them they do. Not sure what you are trying to say tbh. Seems a bit sarcy? Point being, I am a fairly staunch Gashead. I have brought my kids up to be interested in Rovers. I don't think the club are maximizing opportunities. If there are forum members who want to have a dig or tell me I'm some sort of saddo, that's fine. If things were simpler, there would be more future fans. That is a point without contest. Things could be made simpler very very easily. It probably is meant as sarcasm as there is no harder bloke in the world as CGH when he's sat behind his keyboard. The word troll springs to mind , I would take his posts with a pinch of salt, I agree with you by the way G79 , it's a pain in the arse when renewing the under 11 st !!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 8, 2016 19:42:06 GMT
The feasibility study this late in the day doesn't add up. All figures would've been done a very long time ago as Wael knew from the Higgs deal what his targets would be and where to start renegotiating with UWE. That has got to be a red herring. I think the feasibility study is more to,do with a MEM redevelopment than the UWE deal. If it's to do with the Mem then why mention it? Seems to me the UWE have now given Wael their final offer and he's now got to decide whether it's feasible, whatever feasible is when it's a football club not a business, the worry is now the accountants will say it isn't feasible and the UWE is effectively dead, if the UWE won't budge on their offer, and there's no other options land wise. Perhaps fans who spoke to Wael off air will have got a better, and more positive, explanation from Wael.
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 8, 2016 19:42:37 GMT
The feasibility study this late in the day doesn't add up. All figures would've been done a very long time ago as Wael knew from the Higgs deal what his targets would be and where to start renegotiating with UWE. That has got to be a red herring. I think the feasibility study is more to,do with a MEM redevelopment than the UWE deal. Depends what else he wants to build at the UWE, think the tarting up of the Mem is a non starter, thought he spoke very well like a politician without giving dates that we all wanted, seems in love with the gas, and a very nice and decent bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 19:46:41 GMT
New training ground in March with Academy 2 status is great news!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 19:46:57 GMT
water poor interview, GT let him off the hook. Get some answers or don't bother asking in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 19:47:26 GMT
The feasibility study this late in the day doesn't add up. All figures would've been done a very long time ago as Wael knew from the Higgs deal what his targets would be and where to start renegotiating with UWE. That has got to be a red herring. I think the feasibility study is more to,do with a MEM redevelopment than the UWE deal. I think it's give and take. We were selling all the silver to UWE under Higgs and we want it back. Perhaps some agreement.ts in principle have been made and this is just to make sure we are happy with what we will get out of it I realise that but all avenues and figures surely would've been done a long time before now. X+y= and z-t=etc,etc. Wael would've had every permutation of revenues etc done a thousand times over to know which figure he would accept/not accept surely? He has had over a year to perm a figure which suits him and the letting of the Stadium non matchday for UWE use. I realise the complecations of re negotiating but a feasibility study by the accountants! I will accept his word but to me,a mere layman, I can't understand that this hasn't been covered before
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Post by aghast on Sept 8, 2016 19:47:55 GMT
The feasibility study this late in the day doesn't add up. All figures would've been done a very long time ago as Wael knew from the Higgs deal what his targets would be and where to start renegotiating with UWE. That has got to be a red herring. I think the feasibility study is more to,do with a MEM redevelopment than the UWE deal. When he says feasibility study I think he might be referring to a final check that the numbers add up, since the the terms of the deal will have changed from those written on the back on Higgs' fag packet. As for redevelopment of the Mem, to an investor, it must offer nothing attractive. No parking, no hotels, no scope to expand. Look at the mockup by Arturus. It's as tight as a Swindon Chairman's wallet.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 8, 2016 19:53:13 GMT
Well, he's pretty careful about what he says, but, istm, that was what he was hinting. Might be wrong, though. He said it's a two year build, but it's actually 62 weeks. He said "well if we were to start building today it would be 2 years, but he didn't say when we'd start building.. So you're right he is careful in that he indicated it could still be any amount of time, I didn't take any hint from it personally, it was just the usual avoidance of specifics Maybe I was getting a bit carried away.
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