Marshy
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Post by Marshy on Jan 19, 2017 7:04:11 GMT
it's good to hear folk on here responding with patience in mind.... I for one am getting massively pi55ed off with all of the negativity on this place, especially when it's all going better than pretty much everyone expected.... respect DC.... UTG Here Here well said sir! I don't understand it either we are 9th in league 1, yes league 1 ! Why do we keep getting comments about conference players no need of this sh** tag anymore the players have stepped up and proved they are better than that. I have watched Rovers for over 40 years and this is the most exciting time to be a Gashead that I can remember since I was a kid. All this slagging off of Wael is extremely unessesary and disrespectful I hope he doesn't read some of the crap on here, give the man time and he will deliver us the stadium of our dreams + more. Massive respect to the players and especialy DC For getting us into this fantastic position, enjoy the ride Gasheads the journey has only just begun! UTG
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 7:31:49 GMT
Would we rather do it the red way? That is spend millions every season to flap around between 2+3rd tier pretending to be a big club. We are doing great and all along we have been told about the slow progressive approach.
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 19, 2017 7:47:16 GMT
Would we rather do it the red way? That is spend millions every season to flap around between 2+3rd tier pretending to be a big club. We are doing great and all along we have been told about the slow progressive approach. Hell yes! Lets build a disjointed stadium to massage our owners ego, become another franchise and pish away millions on players we have never heard of before. That's a sustainable business model if ever I heard one, we have owners who are prepared to do things in the right way and I applaud them for that.
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Post by Congas on Jan 19, 2017 7:58:59 GMT
Championship next stop. Hop over the gap, please. Hop over the gap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 8:13:28 GMT
It's not about spending millions I'm resigned to watching rovers at the mem for the rest of my life because I don't believe the uwe will ever happen all I want is a decent goalie and centre half please DC.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 19, 2017 8:18:50 GMT
Why do so many think/beleive we have money? Becsuse the press told you?Wael has always been quiet on how wealthy his family are and has always promised we would not spend for the sake of it Many things are improving across the whole club outside of the 11 on the pitch. 9th in Leavue One, we will be safe, yet hysteria over signing another loan keeper. I would like a new permanent keeper but I am happy to wait until the summer if needs be and the right man becomes available. Until then chill the f**k out Just refreshed your mind by going back to the original press announcements the clear indication was the UWE would be built at a cost of circa £40m+ regardless of his families wealth, the clear indication was we were no longer rag bag Rovers, now nearly 12 months we seemingly cant afford an experienced goalie, that says all that needs to be said. As far as waiting for the summer, DC's already had one summer to get a goalie in, why's next summer going to be any different?
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Post by slam on Jan 19, 2017 8:21:49 GMT
I am not sure why so many people seem to equate spending a shedload of money on new players with the guarantee of immediate success or another immediate promotion. You only need to look at the Red Side of Bristol for proof that that approach isn't working for them - spending money on players doesn't even seem to have bought them stability within the Championship.
I would love to see another promotion charge but I am not convinced that we would guarantee that even if we did get a load of new players in.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 19, 2017 8:23:28 GMT
it's good to hear folk on here responding with patience in mind.... I for one am getting massively pi55ed off with all of the negativity on this place, especially when it's all going better than pretty much everyone expected.... respect DC.... UTG Here Here well said sir! I don't understand it either we are 9th in league 1, yes league 1 ! Why do we keep getting comments about conference players no need of this sh** tag anymore the players have stepped up and proved they are better than that. I have watched Rovers for over 40 years and this is the most exciting time to be a Gashead that I can remember since I was a kid. All this slagging off of Wael is extremely unessesary and disrespectful I hope he doesn't read some of the crap on here, give the man time and he will deliver us the stadium of our dreams + more.Massive respect to the players and especialy DC For getting us into this fantastic position, enjoy the ride Gasheads the journey has only just begun! UTG Nobody is slagging Wael off on here but it's clear as day there's a major issue with the UWE and that now seems to be having a knock on effect on the playing budget, we won't survive for ever on ex Conference/Div 2 players giving 110% we desperately need a bit of experience in the squad. (look at the Lockyer thread for how fans are turning on one of our loyal players who probably simply can't give anymore effort)
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Post by albaron on Jan 19, 2017 8:42:32 GMT
Are we still in for the two Championship players DC said we had inquired about ?
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Post by 84gas on Jan 19, 2017 8:51:02 GMT
Dont worry folks, lee johnson will be available soon! 🙄
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Post by Centenary Gas on Jan 19, 2017 8:53:53 GMT
DC said a couple of weeks ago that we would prefer permanent signings, and will only go down the loan route if he doesn't get his first choices. GK is a big position to fill and I would rather he do it properly when he does. DC is likely happy to consolidate this year rather than chase a promotion that could derail everything. Would have rather had an experienced GK come in on loan, but given how difficult it is to get your top targets in January, I'm not bothered.
Not sure why people get so worked up and can't just enjoy the ride. Is two promotions in three years not enough for you? Rome wasn't built in a day. If it was it probably would of crumbled.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 8:54:58 GMT
The fans have come out in numbers home and away and deserve better otherwise they will stop coming I for one won't but now we got these extra fans we need to keep them coming by showing some decent signings and we don't need to spend big.
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Post by wiaww on Jan 19, 2017 8:57:01 GMT
Why do so many think/beleive we have money? Becsuse the press told you?Wael has always been quiet on how wealthy his family are and has always promised we would not spend for the sake of it Many things are improving across the whole club outside of the 11 on the pitch. 9th in Leavue One, we will be safe, yet hysteria over signing another loan keeper. I would like a new permanent keeper but I am happy to wait until the summer if needs be and the right man becomes available. Until then chill the f**k out Just refreshed your mind by going back to the original press announcements the clear indication was the UWE would be built at a cost of circa £40m+ regardless of his families wealth, the clear indication was we were no longer rag bag Rovers, now nearly 12 months we seemingly cant afford an experienced goalie, that says all that needs to be said. As far as waiting for the summer, DC's already had one summer to get a goalie in, why's next summer going to be any different?  Seemingly being the operative word. DC works in mysterious ways and the fact we've not signed an experienced keeper doesn't mean the funds aren't there. Clarke has said multiple times that WAQ has never said no to him with regards to recruitment, and there's nothing to suggest that has changed.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 19, 2017 8:57:36 GMT
Why do so many think/beleive we have money? Becsuse the press told you?Wael has always been quiet on how wealthy his family are and has always promised we would not spend for the sake of it Many things are improving across the whole club outside of the 11 on the pitch. 9th in Leavue One, we will be safe, yet hysteria over signing another loan keeper. I would like a new permanent keeper but I am happy to wait until the summer if needs be and the right man becomes available. Until then chill the f**k out Just refreshed your mind by going back to the original press announcements the clear indication was the UWE would be built at a cost of circa £40m+ regardless of his families wealth, the clear indication was we were no longer rag bag Rovers, now nearly 12 months we seemingly cant afford an experienced goalie, that says all that needs to be said. As far as waiting for the summer, DC's already had one summer to get a goalie in, why's next summer going to be any different? BUT we have 12 new backroom staff of the highest order to ensure we have the fittest Donkeys on the pitch
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Post by newmarketgas on Jan 19, 2017 9:13:52 GMT
The fans have come out in numbers home and away and deserve better otherwise they will stop coming I for one won't but now we got these extra fans we need to keep them coming by showing some decent signings and we don't need to spend big. Deserve better than what ? We are in a tidy position in the League, We are playing some nice football. I really don't think we could ask for much more in the last few years.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Jan 19, 2017 9:14:35 GMT
Well I'm over the moon with how are club is moving forward on and off the pitch. Dc has the backing and won't just spend because he can. People talk of experienced players but when they dont turn out to be good signings there journey men. Our team is non leaguers. No there better than league 2 players that's why we're not in league 2 anymore. The negativity shouldn't be any where near our club. Sadly the negativity is also in the mem terraces. The only negative thing about our club is you miserable moaning f*ckers.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 19, 2017 9:34:31 GMT
Wael hasnt got the money we thought he had
v.s. We're happy with our lot in League 1 this season with next season in mind I'll go for the latter, which is a shame cos this opportunity (4pts of the playoffs to the Championship) certainly doesn't come around every season. Especially not to this club. I think Wael's got money to invest, but is waiting to re-build. Which I fear because our success cant continue forever. Jesus, keep riding this wave (until we crash and burn in the Championship £22m in debt) I really struggle to understand how people have formed this opinion that Wael 'hasn't got the money we thought he had' (not aimed at you by the way Weeezord). It became irrefutably evident within 24 hours of Wael buying the club that he was not a billionaire who was going to buy the world for us, rather a wealthy but responsible owner intent on building a club from the ground up over a long period of time. He has hammered this point home from day 1 of his tenure at every opportunity and yet still people either don't or won't understand this because they petulantly seem to want everything yesterday and expect him to 'get his chequebook out' and fire us from conference to premiership in the space of four years. I can understand the latter point you make about not breaking the bank to reach the championship yet as a possible scenario. I mean if we did get there this year then I'm sure Wael would be delighted, but the club would need to work out how to cope with the increased costs against our currently limited revenue generation and still operate in a sustainable manner. So that scenario is a distinct possibility I think. But I'm pretty sure Wael would be planning on playing Championship football once the new training facility and the stadium are completed so I don't think there's any need for this panic that seems to be sweeping the forum about potentially missing this opportunity by not spending big right now. Wael has made it clear that he will do it at his pace and in a sustainable manner brick by brick. He's using quality and long lasting materials and people to build the wall, the problem is that people seem to want the wall built yesterday using any old crappy bricks we can find lying around the place and no matter what the inflated cost or the poor quality of the personnel. It's not like we don't have a very local example of what throwing money inexpertly at the project might look like.
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 19, 2017 9:37:18 GMT
Well I'm over the moon with how are club is moving forward on and off the pitch. Dc has the backing and won't just spend because he can. People talk of experienced players but when they dont turn out to be good signings there journey men. Our team is non leaguers. No there better than league 2 players that's why we're not in league 2 anymore. The negativity shouldn't be any where near our club. Sadly the negativity is also in the mem terraces. The only negative thing about our club is you miserable moaning f*ckers. This is a forum to discuss things, if we all said DC cannot do a thing wrong, then we might as well not discuss things, all fans want is to improve gradually no marquee signings, however look at the goals against column and you don't need to be Stephen Hawkins to see we have a problem in shipping goals, not many young keepers are confident enough to command the defence, and vocally sort them out. i am overjoyed at the progression we are making, and hope Lumley makes a difference, doesn't help when the train spotters see Gordon Banks getting off at Parkway with his agent!
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Post by gasincider on Jan 19, 2017 9:50:00 GMT
Not sure why people get so worked up and can't just enjoy the ride. Is two promotions in three years not enough for you? Rome wasn't built in a day. If it was it probably would of crumbled. Difficult to enjoy the ride over the last five away games though. And by the way, Rome did collapse even though it was built by evolution. However, I have said for some time that we should not spend money in this window, as you don't get value. Better to borrow till the summer. However, we have known since we regained our league position that we have needed a decent keeper. I'm not going to join the chorus (yet) of criticising the signing of Lumley, as I haven't even seen him play. But I must admit to being surprised that we couldn't sign one with a reasonable pedigree. After all, if the chance is there to progress, surely we should be grabbing it. Sadly though, on and off the terraces, it seems the honeymoon is over. Some form of statement needs to be issued by the club (Wael) to let us know where we are with the UWE. And don't give me the secrecy is paramount nonsense, no secrets need to be divulged, just an honest update.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jan 19, 2017 9:51:04 GMT
No-one is unhappy with 9th in L1 but the point is being so close to the play offs do you make a concerted effort to go for it or not? Come the January transfer window you generally see clubs adopt 1 of 3 lines if thinking 1 panic we're near the relegation spots grab every player you can 2 do nothing in very little you're in a safe midtable spot that you're happy with 3 push the boat out as you're in or close to the play offs so you align yourself for the best possible push at it
Seems to me at present we are adopting option 2. Who knows if that long term is for the best only time will tell. But it doesn't take a wild leap of imagination to see DC and MT leaving in the summer or sooner and then next season you're starting almost from scratch again which could just as likely involve a relegation scrap as a tilt at promotion.
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