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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 18:03:06 GMT
Not only that the football ain't the same either with the good old muddy pitches and crunching tackles. Used to be loads of different songs sang and great banter between rival supporters utg
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Post by Centenary Gas on Jan 19, 2017 18:07:05 GMT
Please be as negative as you feel you need to be. But the recurring suggestion that double promotion winning DC actively doesn't want promotion/ is resigned to mid table. Have a word with yourselves. Not saying he doesn't want it. But not pushing for it as much as he could with signings. Something like if it happens great, but we are happy to give it a proper go next year.
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Post by wilkimania on Jan 19, 2017 19:12:16 GMT
For the talk of does over spending by a bit hurt the club finances, perhaps that isn't the right question. A lot of transfers are about perception, club a has a player that they perceive to be worth a certain amount, whilst club b value him at a different amount. The two will haggle until they reach a mutually agreeable position at which point the bid will be accepted (In an ideal world, obviously not always the case with player power and what not). But now lets say Club B are well known to spend more than the value of players in transfers past, why would Club A want to lower their asking price? It's exactly what happened to Rovers under previous managers. Remember Jeff Hughes comments about joining Rovers because of how well they paid? Clarke has spent his time at Rovers changing the perception of the club with signings of players that will always give 100% for the club. So to return to the original point, perhaps an extra 10k on a transfer isn't going to break but the bank but if you keep doing it, does the change of perception of the club make the deal worth it?
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 19, 2017 22:46:50 GMT
Please be as negative as you feel you need to be. But the recurring suggestion that double promotion winning DC actively doesn't want promotion/ is resigned to mid table. Have a word with yourselves. I blame DC for all that reverse psychology he uses on us. He keeps on saying how he wants to win everything, how he's got 4 promotions as a manager (in 5 seasons), is a hard task master etc. We all know he's such a tease.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 19, 2017 22:58:51 GMT
Yep trymer, nothing and I mean nothing ever comes close to an evening match at Eastville under the lights. Atmosphere was always good and going with friends, making a day of it when possible was great. Now I must be a grumpy old b@st@rd because I drive up, watch the match and drive home. Mind you I do like the shirts!! UTG!
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Post by orgasmic on Jan 20, 2017 7:22:57 GMT
Topper You are contradicting yourself "over the odds" and "within reason" statements, sorry mate there is no correlation in that. Two weeks of the window left, DC is probably in a see who blinks first negotiation with clubs heading towards the end of the transfer/loan window. UTG No, there's a difference every player has it's price, paying say £10K "over the odds" is hardly going to bankrupt us, but paying say £100K extra would be daft. I think even if NH was in charge these signings would be underwhelming. It's fairly obvious the Gas are now as skint as ever! Easy to say when it's not your £10k. Rich people don't get and stay rich by paying over the odds. Perhaps you could chuck in the odd £10k so we get those targets?
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Post by bs9trymer on Jan 20, 2017 7:25:29 GMT
Yep trymer, nothing and I mean nothing ever comes close to an evening match at Eastville under the lights. Atmosphere was always good and going with friends, making a day of it when possible was great. Now I must be a grumpy old b@st@rd because I drive up, watch the match and drive home. Mind you I do like the shirts!! UTG! Agreed,those night games in the late 60s early 70s stick out in my memory. Funny reading the other forum and someone said 'the atmosphere in the away end at Walsall can be quite good', well that show that bloke never went to Eastville for a night game 'back in the day',city in the cup 68 and Stoke in the League cup (71 ? ) being the stand out games for me. Just not the same now,all seater stadiums and the average age of crowds have killed the atmosphere,what they call great now seems dull in comparison,very sad.
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Post by bs9trymer on Jan 20, 2017 7:29:35 GMT
No, there's a difference every player has it's price, paying say £10K "over the odds" is hardly going to bankrupt us, but paying say £100K extra would be daft. I think even if NH was in charge these signings would be underwhelming. It's fairly obvious the Gas are now as skint as ever! Easy to say when it's not your £10k. Rich people don't get and stay rich by paying over the odds. Perhaps you could chuck in the odd £10k so we get those targets? Very true,rich people speculate to accumulate,like building restaurants,shops and hotels in busy areas,if they need to speculate by paying a few million to buy a football club to enable them to do that they will,as long as they get their money back and some profit,thats what makes the world go around.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 20, 2017 10:01:40 GMT
Yep trymer, nothing and I mean nothing ever comes close to an evening match at Eastville under the lights. Atmosphere was always good and going with friends, making a day of it when possible was great. Now I must be a grumpy old b@st@rd because I drive up, watch the match and drive home. Mind you I do like the shirts!! UTG! Agreed,those night games in the late 60s early 70s stick out in my memory. Funny reading the other forum and someone said 'the atmosphere in the away end at Walsall can be quite good', well that show that bloke never went to Eastville for a night game 'back in the day',city in the cup 68 and Stoke in the League cup (71 ? ) being the stand out games for me. Just not the same now,all seater stadiums and the average age of crowds have killed the atmosphere,what they call great now seems dull in comparison,very sad. Yes it was those league cup games wasn't it. I was at the City match at their place when 0-0 but missed the replay. Stoke was special but my favourite was the match against Villa, pouring with rain, totally soaked yet we battered them and got the equaliser late in the match. Great atmosphere at that place in the 60s and 70s. 80s a different matter! UTG!
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Post by markczgas on Jan 20, 2017 11:31:55 GMT
Yep trymer, nothing and I mean nothing ever comes close to an evening match at Eastville under the lights. Atmosphere was always good and going with friends, making a day of it when possible was great. Now I must be a grumpy old b@st@rd because I drive up, watch the match and drive home. Mind you I do like the shirts!! UTG! Agreed,those night games in the late 60s early 70s stick out in my memory. Funny reading the other forum and someone said 'the atmosphere in the away end at Walsall can be quite good', well that show that bloke never went to Eastville for a night game 'back in the day',city in the cup 68 and Stoke in the League cup (71 ? ) being the stand out games for me. Just not the same now,all seater stadiums and the average age of crowds have killed the atmosphere,what they call great now seems dull in comparison,very sad. Shall we get the violins out ?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 20, 2017 11:36:18 GMT
Agreed,those night games in the late 60s early 70s stick out in my memory. Funny reading the other forum and someone said 'the atmosphere in the away end at Walsall can be quite good', well that show that bloke never went to Eastville for a night game 'back in the day',city in the cup 68 and Stoke in the League cup (71 ? ) being the stand out games for me. Just not the same now,all seater stadiums and the average age of crowds have killed the atmosphere,what they call great now seems dull in comparison,very sad. Shall we get the violins out ? You have to respect the clubs history, which is more than the inbred mob south of the river have
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Post by markczgas on Jan 20, 2017 11:40:07 GMT
The violins bit - was about "the old Days stuff" being the best - it's all relative to your age. The kids now also have great memories of special atmosphere's - just think what they thought of Dagenham last season or the Shrewsbury play off final an little Sammy Igoe's goal !!
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Post by Staffordshire Gas on Jan 20, 2017 11:46:08 GMT
Yep trymer, nothing and I mean nothing ever comes close to an evening match at Eastville under the lights. Atmosphere was always good and going with friends, making a day of it when possible was great. Now I must be a grumpy old b@st@rd because I drive up, watch the match and drive home. Mind you I do like the shirts!! UTG! Best was evening match at Eastville under lights when we were 4-0 down against Leeds but drew 4-4. We all had rattles in those days.Graham Ricketts starred and the game made the front page headlines of the Evening World next day.(Yes i am very old)! (Saw this in Macclesfield this week.) Attachments:
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 20, 2017 12:04:19 GMT
The violins bit - was about "the old Days stuff" being the best - it's all relative to your age. The kids now also have great memories of special atmosphere's - just think what they thought of Dagenham last season or the Shrewsbury play off final an little Sammy Igoe's goal !! We all have memories about the "good old days" some older than others, I recall getting a kicking from some Birmingham fans behind the North Stand at Eastville for trying to get my scarf back from them. Those games against the mighty Villa, when they occupied part of the Tote End. The views at Eastville were not great, mainly down to the dog track but as Mark and others havepointed out the atmosphere could be electric. Towards the end of our tenure there, the smaller crowds made it seem like a morgue. The move to "Trumpton" proved popular as the closeness of the terraces to the pitch enabled the noise generated a hostile atmosphere for away teams. No matter your age you will have memories both good and bad of supporting the Gas, long may the good memories last
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 20, 2017 12:50:57 GMT
The violins bit - was about "the old Days stuff" being the best - it's all relative to your age. The kids now also have great memories of special atmosphere's - just think what they thought of Dagenham last season or the Shrewsbury play off final an little Sammy Igoe's goal !! I can understand that. When you are young it's all about the football and nothing comes close. When you get older other things are important, family, kids, job etc. I think your best memories are when you're young and it's just the football. When you grow up you can't just do football. What does age does do is give a sense of perspective and appreciation of the history etc. But yes I took my son to Wembley in 2007, a Bournemouth fan, and he remembers the Igoe goal and when he came with me to the Mansfield game he understood why everyone was down. Bournemouth had dodged the bullet about 3 years earlier and he kind of realised how I felt. UTG! ps But for our history you need the full orchestra not just the violins!😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 17:14:06 GMT
There is no comparison between Eastville with a large crowd and Twerton or the Mem,even new Wembley isn't as good atmosphere wise imo.
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Post by santorini on Jan 20, 2017 20:37:34 GMT
---------------harleygas --trymer.
Yes,those old days at Eastville. I well remember the 4-0 down at half time and the atmosphere in the 2nd half. At age 80 I can still recall the smell of the gasworks and treading in Greyhound doggy do on the Muller rd entrance.When oranges became available again after the war the girls would buy them and throw them to Bert Hoyle our gk.(No knicker throwing then).The Manager Bert Tann and the "NO BUY NO SELL POLICY" and him announcing that ,spectators would willingly stand on a mud heap to see a successfull team.Was it Brough Fletcher who was manager before him.
I think it cost me 9d (just under 4p in new money) on the bus that started at Thornbury and a whole half crown to get in the ground (12.5 p) when i first started going.Later on my mates Father was a Steward in the stand where the dressing rooms were and when as on many occassions there was spare seats he would let us transfer in free,what luxury we thought we had.And of course the 13 arches were still standing then.You had to buy a programme then to get the half time scores as they were put up in BIG letters under numbered boards at half time,that were listed in the programme,then buy a Geen-un or Pink-un on the way home for full time scores.
I must stop or I will be here all night.
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Post by pirateman on Jan 20, 2017 20:45:05 GMT
---------------harleygas --trymer. Yes,those old days at Eastville. I well remember the 4-0 down at half time and the atmosphere in the 2nd half. At age 80 I can still recall the smell of the gasworks and treading in Greyhound doggy do on the Muller rd entrance.When oranges became available again after the war the girls would buy them and throw them to Bert Hoyle our gk.(No knicker throwing then).The Manager Bert Tann and the "NO BUY NO SELL POLICY" and him announcing that ,spectators would willingly stand on a mud heap to see a successfull team.Was it Brough Fletcher who was manager before him. I think it cost me 9d (just under 4p in new money) on the bus that started at Thornbury and a whole half crown to get in the ground (12.5 p) when i first started going.Later on my mates Father was a Steward in the stand where the dressing rooms were and when as on many occassions there was spare seats he would let us transfer in free,what luxury we thought we had.And of course the 13 arches were still standing then.You had to buy a programme then to get the half time scores as they were put up in BIG letters under numbered boards at half time,that were listed in the programme,then buy a Geen-un or Pink-un on the way home for full time scores. I must stop or I will be here all night. Loved Eastville in the 60s and 70s. Don't go back further than that. Not as old as you mate. Used to even go to reserve games sometimes. I think they only opened the South Stand for those. They were the only times I ever went in that stand. I do remember the half time 'letters' and dashing to the newsagents to get the green un for all the results. Or listening to radio luxembourg news to get the result when Rovers were away on an evening kick off. Where we are now - top half of Div 3 is where I came in and I am so pleased to be back there and hope we can push on.
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Post by Staffordshire Gas on Jan 20, 2017 20:45:18 GMT
The H.T. Scoreboards you refer to.Really high tech.
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Post by pirateman on Jan 20, 2017 20:46:22 GMT
The H.T. Scoreboards you refer to.Really high tech. And the PA system only used for safety announcements
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