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Post by Thegasaregoingup on May 4, 2017 8:04:54 GMT
Guess who is holding up Crystal Palace ground development scheme? Shamesburys again.
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Post by gasstrictband on May 4, 2017 8:11:31 GMT
Surprise Surprise.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 12:12:52 GMT
But what happens if the ALQ's deliver the UWE to plan, a state of the art training ground and also top level Championship football, getting shafted by them could then turn out to be the best thing that happened to us? It could well turn out that getting shafted was the best thing that could have happened but it should be remembered that no one had even heard of the Al Qadis when they f**ked us over and shamesbury's didnt give a flying toss what the consequences were for rovers. Some on here seem quite happy to forgive and forget. Some even mock fellow gasheads that continue to boycott them and that really boils my p**s dry. Struggling to get the hate towards Sainsburys. I would suggest the anger is misplaced. Business is business. They look after their business, we look after ours. Had the contract been 'watertight' as we were constantly told, they would have had no room to manoeuvre. At it turned out (and unsurprising to anyone familiar with the previous board), it wasn't and they legally and legitimately pulled out. People are living in cuckoo land if they think they would have proceeded with the purchase out of a sense of 'fairness'. The minute I saw the embarrassing t-shirts and banners telling Sainsburys to 'Play Fair', it was apparent the game was over. Amateurish tactics. It's not uncommon for a football club (including ours) to offer players a new contract if they hit x amount of appearances that season and then to freeze them out and let the deal count down to zero when they move close to reaching that figure to prevent the deal. Don't see how it's massively different? Thank goodness we have competent people managing the club now.
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Post by Okebournegas on May 4, 2017 13:28:41 GMT
It could well turn out that getting shafted was the best thing that could have happened but it should be remembered that no one had even heard of the Al Qadis when they f**ked us over and shamesbury's didnt give a flying toss what the consequences were for rovers. Some on here seem quite happy to forgive and forget. Some even mock fellow gasheads that continue to boycott them and that really boils my p**s dry. Struggling to get the hate towards Sainsburys. I would suggest the anger is misplaced. Business is business. They look after their business, we look after ours. Had the contract been 'watertight' as we were constantly told, they would have had no room to manoeuvre. At it turned out (and unsurprising to anyone familiar with the previous board), it wasn't and they legally and legitimately pulled out. People are living in cuckoo land if they think they would have proceeded with the purchase out of a sense of 'fairness'. The minute I saw the embarrassing t-shirts and banners telling Sainsburys to 'Play Fair', it was apparent the game was over. Amateurish tactics. It's not uncommon for a football club (including ours) to offer players a new contract if they hit x amount of appearances that season and then to freeze them out and let the deal count down to zero when they move close to reaching that figure to prevent the deal. Don't see how it's massively different? Thank goodness we have competent people managing the club now. Well put ! Exactly the same view as myself , you worded it better though !!
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Post by oldgas on May 4, 2017 13:33:14 GMT
It could well turn out that getting shafted was the best thing that could have happened but it should be remembered that no one had even heard of the Al Qadis when they f**ked us over and shamesbury's didnt give a flying toss what the consequences were for rovers. Some on here seem quite happy to forgive and forget. Some even mock fellow gasheads that continue to boycott them and that really boils my p**s dry. Struggling to get the hate towards Sainsburys. I would suggest the anger is misplaced. Business is business. They look after their business, we look after ours. Had the contract been 'watertight' as we were constantly told, they would have had no room to manoeuvre. At it turned out (and unsurprising to anyone familiar with the previous board), it wasn't and they legally and legitimately pulled out. People are living in cuckoo land if they think they would have proceeded with the purchase out of a sense of 'fairness'. The minute I saw the embarrassing t-shirts and banners telling Sainsburys to 'Play Fair', it was apparent the game was over. Amateurish tactics. It's not uncommon for a football club (including ours) to offer players a new contract if they hit x amount of appearances that season and then to freeze them out and let the deal count down to zero when they move close to reaching that figure to prevent the deal. Don't see how it's massively different? Thank goodness we have competent people managing the club now. The first thing to consider is whether Shitsburys ever had any intention of completing the deal. It's not as if their behaviour wasn't without precedent. I think you will find they have a history of bidding high for parcels of land then drawing the process out before eventually abandoning the project, going to court if needs be. Southend United and a development in West Wales come readily to mind. Their sole intention would appear to prevent their rivals getting a foothold in any particular area. If you think that's an OK and ethical way to conduct business then so be it. I think it stinks and I'm glad Theyre losing market share to Aldi and Lidl. like someone else has done, I would never dream of patronising them again. There is one of their stores with a petrol forecourt very near to my house. I only go there to use the free airline. We now buy our food and household requirements from a further away Aldi store and fuel for our 2 cars from a Waitrose forecourt. This is depriving Shitsburys of at least £750 per month, money We would otherwise have spent with them. I seem to remember that hey had an agreement to buy Trashton from the Sh1t for a superstore. Because of the objections that stopped them building the new stadium Shitsburys real intention with regards to Trashton was never tested, but I bet they would have rowed out that as well. If Shitsburys still have someone checking this website I hope they will report the ill-will of Gasheads and the fact that business has been diverted as a result of their unethical behaviour. You may be able to shrug your shoulders and move on; I will always detest Shitsburys, and will miss no opportunity to denigrate their name.
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Post by Okebournegas on May 4, 2017 13:40:58 GMT
Struggling to get the hate towards Sainsburys. I would suggest the anger is misplaced. Business is business. They look after their business, we look after ours. Had the contract been 'watertight' as we were constantly told, they would have had no room to manoeuvre. At it turned out (and unsurprising to anyone familiar with the previous board), it wasn't and they legally and legitimately pulled out. People are living in cuckoo land if they think they would have proceeded with the purchase out of a sense of 'fairness'. The minute I saw the embarrassing t-shirts and banners telling Sainsburys to 'Play Fair', it was apparent the game was over. Amateurish tactics. It's not uncommon for a football club (including ours) to offer players a new contract if they hit x amount of appearances that season and then to freeze them out and let the deal count down to zero when they move close to reaching that figure to prevent the deal. Don't see how it's massively different? Thank goodness we have competent people managing the club now. The first thing to consider is whether Shitsburys ever had any intention of completing the deal. It's not as if their behaviour wasn't without precedent. I think you will find they have a history of bidding high for parcels of land then drawing the process out before eventually abandoning the project, going to court if needs be. Southend United and a development in West Wales come readily to mind. Their sole intention would appear to prevent their rivals getting a foothold in any particular area. If you think that's an OK and ethical way to conduct business then so be it. I think it stinks and I'm glad Theyre losing market share to Aldi and Lidl. like someone else has done, I would never dream of patronising them again. There is one of their stores with a petrol forecourt very near to my house. I only go there to use the free airline. We now buy our food and household requirements from a further away Aldi store and fuel for our 2 cars from a Waitrose forecourt. This is depriving Shitsburys of at least £750 per month, money We would otherwise have spent with them. I seem to remember that hey had an agreement to buy Trashton from the Sh1t for a superstore. Because of the objections that stopped them building the new stadium Shitsburys real intention with regards to Trashton was never tested, but I bet they would have rowed out that as well. If Shitsburys still have someone checking this website I hope they will report the ill-will of Gasheads and the fact that business has been diverted as a result of their unethical behaviour. You may be able to shrug your shoulders and move on; I will always detest Shitsburys, and will miss no opportunity to denigrate their name. It does stink what they have done / continue to do but its dog eat dog and to them it prevents rival stores from opening hence less competition which in turn would increase margins. ( not the case recently) I work in the motor industry and this practice goes on all the time, at the end of the day Sainsbury's aren't doing anything but protecting their business , hence why they are so big. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it happens whether we like it or not , on this occasion unfortunately for us as fans our football club were the ones to suffer, who knows it could well be a blessing in disguise
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Post by oldgas on May 4, 2017 13:47:56 GMT
The first thing to consider is whether Shitsburys ever had any intention of completing the deal. It's not as if their behaviour wasn't without precedent. I think you will find they have a history of bidding high for parcels of land then drawing the process out before eventually abandoning the project, going to court if needs be. Southend United and a development in West Wales come readily to mind. Their sole intention would appear to prevent their rivals getting a foothold in any particular area. If you think that's an OK and ethical way to conduct business then so be it. I think it stinks and I'm glad Theyre losing market share to Aldi and Lidl. like someone else has done, I would never dream of patronising them again. There is one of their stores with a petrol forecourt very near to my house. I only go there to use the free airline. We now buy our food and household requirements from a further away Aldi store and fuel for our 2 cars from a Waitrose forecourt. This is depriving Shitsburys of at least £750 per month, money We would otherwise have spent with them. I seem to remember that hey had an agreement to buy Trashton from the Sh1t for a superstore. Because of the objections that stopped them building the new stadium Shitsburys real intention with regards to Trashton was never tested, but I bet they would have rowed out that as well. If Shitsburys still have someone checking this website I hope they will report the ill-will of Gasheads and the fact that business has been diverted as a result of their unethical behaviour. You may be able to shrug your shoulders and move on; I will always detest Shitsburys, and will miss no opportunity to denigrate their name. It does stink what they have done / continue to do but its dog eat dog and to them it prevents rival stores from opening hence less competition which in turn would increase margins. ( not the case recently) I work in the motor industry and this practice goes on all the time, at the end of the day Sainsbury's aren't doing anything but protecting their business , hence why they are so big. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it happens whether we like it or not , on this occasion unfortunately for us as fans our football club were the ones to suffer, who knows it could well be a blessing in disguise I appreciate all that Okebourne, and I am not criticising anyone who shops with them. I will never be able to forgive them, they were quite content to see a sporting institution since 1883 go to the wall to further their business. It may well go on all the time, but it was Shitsburys who royally shafted my club and I will hate them for the rest of my life. Thats just the way I feel and nothing will change that.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 4, 2017 13:55:25 GMT
Reading the comments on this thread makes me feel a bit sad. Not saying they are wrong, necessarily but to hear fans of our club seeing Sainsbury's point of view and explaining their behaviour away by saying 'business is business' can't help me feel more than ever that our sport has well and truly lost its soul.
Business is business and profits must grow. Anyone thought of flogging some thneeds in the club shop?
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Post by Okebournegas on May 4, 2017 13:56:17 GMT
It does stink what they have done / continue to do but its dog eat dog and to them it prevents rival stores from opening hence less competition which in turn would increase margins. ( not the case recently) I work in the motor industry and this practice goes on all the time, at the end of the day Sainsbury's aren't doing anything but protecting their business , hence why they are so big. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it happens whether we like it or not , on this occasion unfortunately for us as fans our football club were the ones to suffer, who knows it could well be a blessing in disguise I appreciate all that Okebourne, and I am not criticising anyone who shops with them. I will never be able to forgive them, they were quite content to see a sporting institution since 1883 go to the wall to further their business. It may well go on all the time, but it was Shitsburys who royally shafted my club and I will hate them for the rest of my life. Thats just the way I feel and nothing will change that. oldgas ,I genuinely respect and appreciate your view on things my friend and I do share the frustration, who knows good news may be on the horizon ( I'm not in the know , it's just a gut feeling )
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Post by peterparker on May 4, 2017 13:56:53 GMT
Struggling to get the hate towards Sainsburys. I would suggest the anger is misplaced. Business is business. They look after their business, we look after ours. Had the contract been 'watertight' as we were constantly told, they would have had no room to manoeuvre. At it turned out (and unsurprising to anyone familiar with the previous board), it wasn't and they legally and legitimately pulled out. People are living in cuckoo land if they think they would have proceeded with the purchase out of a sense of 'fairness'. The minute I saw the embarrassing t-shirts and banners telling Sainsburys to 'Play Fair', it was apparent the game was over. Amateurish tactics. It's not uncommon for a football club (including ours) to offer players a new contract if they hit x amount of appearances that season and then to freeze them out and let the deal count down to zero when they move close to reaching that figure to prevent the deal. Don't see how it's massively different? Thank goodness we have competent people managing the club now. The first thing to consider is whether Shitsburys ever had any intention of completing the deal. It's not as if their behaviour wasn't without precedent. I think you will find they have a history of bidding high for parcels of land then drawing the process out before eventually abandoning the project, going to court if needs be. Southend United and a development in West Wales come readily to mind. Their sole intention would appear to prevent their rivals getting a foothold in any particular area. If you think that's an OK and ethical way to conduct business then so be it. I think it stinks and I'm glad Theyre losing market share to Aldi and Lidl. like someone else has done, I would never dream of patronising them again. There is one of their stores with a petrol forecourt very near to my house. I only go there to use the free airline. We now buy our food and household requirements from a further away Aldi store and fuel for our 2 cars from a Waitrose forecourt. This is depriving Shitsburys of at least £750 per month, money We would otherwise have spent with them. I seem to remember that hey had an agreement to buy Trashton from the Sh1t for a superstore. Because of the objections that stopped them building the new stadium Shitsburys real intention with regards to Trashton was never tested, but I bet they would have rowed out that as well. If Shitsburys still have someone checking this website I hope they will report the ill-will of Gasheads and the fact that business has been diverted as a result of their unethical behaviour. You may be able to shrug your shoulders and move on; I will always detest Shitsburys, and will miss no opportunity to denigrate their name. If the evidence was there (and The Southend thing has been going on years) why did we bother getting in bed with them. That's the question I would ask
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Post by Okebournegas on May 4, 2017 14:02:40 GMT
Reading the comments on this thread makes me feel a bit sad. Not saying they are wrong, necessarily but to hear fans of our club seeing Sainsbury's point of view and explaining their behaviour away by saying 'business is business' can't help me feel more than ever that our sport has well and truly lost its soul. Business is business and profits must grow. Anyone thought of flogging some thneeds in the club shop? I've worked in sales my whole adult life , but it's a fact , money talks and the big fish usually eats the little one. I'm not defending Sainsbury's but I understand what they have done as it's normal practice, unfortunately there isn't morals in business. ( not a lot anyway ) I will always love the gas and want what's best for the club but like falsenumber9 said if things were watertight under the old regime and more professional things might have turned out differently.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 15:33:28 GMT
It does stink what they have done / continue to do but its dog eat dog and to them it prevents rival stores from opening hence less competition which in turn would increase margins. ( not the case recently) I work in the motor industry and this practice goes on all the time, at the end of the day Sainsbury's aren't doing anything but protecting their business , hence why they are so big. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it happens whether we like it or not , on this occasion unfortunately for us as fans our football club were the ones to suffer, who knows it could well be a blessing in disguise I appreciate all that Okebourne, and I am not criticising anyone who shops with them. I will never be able to forgive them, they were quite content to see a sporting institution since 1883 go to the wall to further their business. It may well go on all the time, but it was Shitsburys who royally shafted my club and I will hate them for the rest of my life. Thats just the way I feel and nothing will change that. I get it's an emotive subject but you can't surely expect any business to sign a multi-million pound contract for a project they now deem unprofitable to benefit a historic sporting institution? Like I said, the fault lies with us for giving them the opportunity to get out of the deal.
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Post by abbeygas on May 4, 2017 15:50:59 GMT
It could well turn out that getting shafted was the best thing that could have happened but it should be remembered that no one had even heard of the Al Qadis when they f**ked us over and shamesbury's didnt give a flying toss what the consequences were for rovers. Some on here seem quite happy to forgive and forget. Some even mock fellow gasheads that continue to boycott them and that really boils my p**s dry. If this is aimed at me , which I'm sure it is, A) I have nothing to forgive or forget as whether you or I like it or not what Sainsbury's did to rovers unfortunately goes on in the world of business all the time and the likes of you and me boycotting Sainsbury's isn't going to change that, and like I said earlier I actually enjoy their products. B) I wasn't mocking anybody on here I was having a bit of light hearted banter as we've moved on since then and I think the future for our club is very bright, I respect people's views on the subject but at the end of the day if I want to make light of the situation I will do. It was not meant for you okebourne and I don't believe you were mocking anyone. If you must know it was peterparker that caused my mini meltdown with his 'well done boycotters' comment.
Whilst I agree that this sort of thing goes on all the time with big business the fact remains that the particular big business that shafted rovers was Shamesbury's hence the reason why I continue to boycott them.
You say you have nothing to forgive and forget because big businesses do this sort of thing all of the time and it is just a fact of life but to me it just sounds like you are justifying to yourself the fact you continue to shop there. That's how I see it anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 15:56:17 GMT
If this is aimed at me , which I'm sure it is, A) I have nothing to forgive or forget as whether you or I like it or not what Sainsbury's did to rovers unfortunately goes on in the world of business all the time and the likes of you and me boycotting Sainsbury's isn't going to change that, and like I said earlier I actually enjoy their products. B) I wasn't mocking anybody on here I was having a bit of light hearted banter as we've moved on since then and I think the future for our club is very bright, I respect people's views on the subject but at the end of the day if I want to make light of the situation I will do. It was not meant for you okebourne and I don't believe you were mocking anyone. If you must know it was peterparker that caused my mini meltdown with his 'well done boycotters' comment.
Whilst I agree that this sort of thing goes on all the time with big business the fact remains that the particular big business that shafted rovers was Shamesbury's hence the reason why I continue to boycott them.
You say you have nothing to forgive and forget because big businesses do this sort of thing all of the time and it is just a fact of life but to me it just sounds like you are justifying to yourself the fact you continue to shop there. That's how I see it anyway. How did they 'shaft' us though? We agreed a contract with them and they acted within it. Genuinely can't understand the resentment and hatred for something we were at fault for? If you agreed to buy a house in principle and your circumstances changed, would you pull out of the deal if allowed to do so?
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Post by LJG on May 4, 2017 16:48:38 GMT
Hahaha. I use their free air for my tyres then drive off. FREE AIR!
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Post by gasstrictband on May 4, 2017 17:09:50 GMT
When Higgs got into bed with Scumburys,it was like a cup cake negotiateing with a steak knife.
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Post by Okebournegas on May 4, 2017 17:52:50 GMT
If this is aimed at me , which I'm sure it is, A) I have nothing to forgive or forget as whether you or I like it or not what Sainsbury's did to rovers unfortunately goes on in the world of business all the time and the likes of you and me boycotting Sainsbury's isn't going to change that, and like I said earlier I actually enjoy their products. B) I wasn't mocking anybody on here I was having a bit of light hearted banter as we've moved on since then and I think the future for our club is very bright, I respect people's views on the subject but at the end of the day if I want to make light of the situation I will do. It was not meant for you okebourne and I don't believe you were mocking anyone. If you must know it was peterparker that caused my mini meltdown with his 'well done boycotters' comment.
Whilst I agree that this sort of thing goes on all the time with big business the fact remains that the particular big business that shafted rovers was Shamesbury's hence the reason why I continue to boycott them.
You say you have nothing to forgive and forget because big businesses do this sort of thing all of the time and it is just a fact of life but to me it just sounds like you are justifying to yourself the fact you continue to shop there. That's how I see it anyway. Apologies I thought you were talking about me , I respect and appreciate everyone's views on the subject as we all react to things differently, agree to disagree 😀
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Post by dragonfly on May 4, 2017 17:58:22 GMT
On a side note , does anyone still go into Scumburys ,and fart in there meat section , I sometimes go into their toilets and take a dump in one of the hand basins, does this help? Marshfield, is this what you meant about "letting it go" after the Gillingham game?
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Post by gasstrictband on May 4, 2017 18:07:22 GMT
Go and take a run and dump .lol.
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Post by abbeygas on May 4, 2017 18:21:44 GMT
It was not meant for you okebourne and I don't believe you were mocking anyone. If you must know it was peterparker that caused my mini meltdown with his 'well done boycotters' comment.
Whilst I agree that this sort of thing goes on all the time with big business the fact remains that the particular big business that shafted rovers was Shamesbury's hence the reason why I continue to boycott them.
You say you have nothing to forgive and forget because big businesses do this sort of thing all of the time and it is just a fact of life but to me it just sounds like you are justifying to yourself the fact you continue to shop there. That's how I see it anyway. Apologies I thought you were talking about me , I respect and appreciate everyone's views on the subject as we all react to things differently, agree to disagree 😀 Fair enough fella.
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