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Post by garystash on Sept 6, 2016 20:07:34 GMT
The Emersons site has been mentioned on here a few times. I also heard an alternative site at Avonmouth was being considered (from a fellow fan - no idea if he is ITK!).
Thing is, I don't know where the suggestion of other sites is coming from. There is no evidence from the club or anywhere else that this is the case.
ISTM that people are 2nd guessing the situation because nothing appears to be happening with UWE.
Clearly if all was well with UWE we would be building now. But just because we're not, doesn't mean it's dead. It could just be we're still negotiating the terms of the contract with them.
Also remember, the last time the club made a statement saying we're still talking to UWE, many fans slated it for being non-news. Given that, why should they come out and tell us the same again?
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Post by garystash on Sept 6, 2016 10:06:20 GMT
You're quite right Gary, this is mere supposition on my part. I hope I am wrong and that UWE will happen soon, however I have this nagging doubt. It may be that UWE have agreed they won't publicise the fact the deal has fallen through until given the green light by Rovers. It just seems to be taking so long if everything is ok with the deal, Having followed the Gas for 50 years pessimism does take over! I do understand your pessimism, I've been waiting for us to build a decent stadium since the Eastville days. So many plans have fallen by the wayside, it's easy to think this will too. If you want something to give you hope, read Brighton's story. See what they went through and how long it took them to get their ground. We can do it too!
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UWE
Sept 6, 2016 10:00:48 GMT
Post by garystash on Sept 6, 2016 10:00:48 GMT
Something has to give soon as the planning permission will run out ! Is that why the car park has to be started by next month?
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Post by garystash on Sept 6, 2016 9:34:56 GMT
I'm afraid that these images of a shiny new stadium at UWE are nothing more than a pipe dream. I say that because the whole thing has dragged on far too long for there to be a successful outcome. Remember how, for the best part of a year Higgs told us they were "working with their partners to get the stadium built"? It turns out they were haggling over the contract as Shitsburys has no intention of buying the Mem. We all know how that turned out. The Al-Quadi family acquired the club in February this year. If they had accepted the UWE plans as negotiated by Higgs et al construction would have been underway. As it is, the new owners found the deal to not be to their liking. I would think it likely that, after a thorough analysis they went back to the UWE and said, "we want to build on your campus, but we want the following alterations to the contract" UWE have no doubt looked at the new demands and said something like "We can't accept those proposals, but will meet you part- way by accepting a, b and c" If those concessions are not acceptable to Rovers, and the UWE have drawn their line in the sand, where do we go from here? I think it's likely that the club are in negotiation with South Glos to purchase an alternative site. I also think the club will keep the pretence of UWE to placate the fans, and that they will announce the cancellation of UWE when they have reached agreement with S Glos over an alternative site. There should be no planning issues with S Glos, why would they offer us land for a stadium then turn down the planning application? I believe we will get a new stadium, it won't be at UWE, however it will be in S Glos and will take a year or so longer. This, you understand, is just my opinion and is based on no evidence whatsoever. Whilst your post may be correct, the bit in bold is what we all need to take notice of. There is no evidence that it's all gone wrong apart from: - It's taking a while.
- Some bloke on twitter that calls himself "The Real Keith Chimp". (really? do we take this guy seriously?)
I would like to present some evidence that it hasn't gone wrong: The UWE (to my knowledge) have not said it's not happening. If the deal is off what reason would they have to keep it secret? Their governance is very open, and if alternative plans for that land were being discussed it will be in the public domain somewhere.
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Post by garystash on Sept 5, 2016 19:59:19 GMT
On Thursday, Goeff Twentyman is taking his "Having a Gas" show to the Mem. This is because that night BBC Bristol are holding a special preview screening of a film they've made all about the new owners of the club, the Al Qadi family. Inside Out West flew out to Jordan to film with them at home, find out more about them, who they are and why the wanted to buy Rovers, what their hopes are for the club, what's the vision for the future. This will be shown on BBC One ultimately, but we've got an exclusive preview Thursday night, at the Mem, just for Gasheads. The club have been given 10 pairs of tickets for the event to give away to supporters. Read more at www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/inside-out-west-the-al-qadi-family-3292398.aspx#7sVdHCT2b1zJOOkw.99Two big questions for Wael to answer there, I'm surprised Gasheads are only getting 20 tickets in total, who's getting all the other tickets? It's not clear if this is being boardcast live on Thursday show or recorded for a later show, I assume it's being boardcast live if it's recorded on Thursday. Don't tempt me to answer that, I may get sued for libel.
Well, I know that they were giving away some (25 if memory serves) to listeners of Having A Gas. Pray tell Severncider, who do you think will be in the audience?
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UWE
Sept 5, 2016 17:55:09 GMT
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Post by garystash on Sept 5, 2016 17:55:09 GMT
We must be due some sort of update this week. Apologies if it's been mentioned already, but Wael is taking part in a Q&A session at the Mem on Thursday. It's part of a programme the BBC have made about the Al-Qadis, and the Q&A will be on having a gas with 20man. The stadium will be the biggest elephant there ever has been in a room if it's not mentioned. We could just get the standard update - talks ongoing etc. etc., but it would be a great PR move to make an announcement for the cameras and hype up the TV programme prior to broadcast. is this live on radio Bris then tash? I believe so. I heard 20man plugging it whilst listening to last week's having a gas. There's something on th OS about it now, although it doesn't mention the Q&A: mobile.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/inside-out-west-the-al-qadi-family-3292398.aspx
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UWE
Sept 5, 2016 16:38:08 GMT
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Post by garystash on Sept 5, 2016 16:38:08 GMT
We must be due some sort of update this week. Apologies if it's been mentioned already, but Wael is taking part in a Q&A session at the Mem on Thursday.
It's part of a programme the BBC have made about the Al-Qadis, and the Q&A will be on having a gas with 20man.
The stadium will be the biggest elephant there ever has been in a room if it's not mentioned.
We could just get the standard update - talks ongoing etc. etc., but it would be a great PR move to make an announcement for the cameras and hype up the TV programme prior to broadcast.
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Post by garystash on Sept 3, 2016 7:00:17 GMT
As I said there's no real evidence he's spent any of his own money, the loans of gone from BRFC 1883's books but they could just as easy be now sat on Dwane Sports, as they must exist for some reason. As far as paying for meals etc whilst it's good to hear that's now happening given the increased attendances/season ticket they are probably paying for themselves. The club now seems to be far better run but that's not difficult given how poorly it seems money will need to be spent, let's hope Wael's prepared to spend it. I would not of thought the "Wonga" loan could be sat anywhere else, as that as far as I am aware was secured against the Mem. Unless they have offered security for it elsewhere it must be cleared. I think Wonga have been paid, however Dwayne Sports would have borrowed the money to do so from elsewhere. Where? I don't know. I would guess from the Al-Qadis. Wherever it's from I'm sure it's at a more manageable rate of interest than Wonga, and that the lender isn't going to force the sale of the Mem to get their money back.
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Post by garystash on Aug 30, 2016 18:53:14 GMT
I bumped into a chap i know today from yeovil, he said the same as us, lots not going etc, hope its the same all across the country. 442 hallelujah Thought you were cheering an attendance of 442!
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Post by garystash on Aug 27, 2016 12:02:47 GMT
I suspect Mildy would've been made aware when he was offered a contract that DC was after a replacement. Therefore I reckon Mildy is not the least bit surprised by this.
I don't think it's in DC's nature to mislead anyone.
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Post by garystash on Aug 25, 2016 14:59:52 GMT
I don't know if Phil posts on Rovers forums under another user name. He's certainly never let be known on here or the other forum. As someone else has said, he tries to be nice and gets ripped to shreds for it. There is one guy purporting to be Gas who posts as Bert Tann. He is quite obviously a Shithead as all his posts subtly criticise us, but the thick Teds lap it up, praising him for making sensible, balanced comments. I used to post on there for a laugh a couple of years ago. I constantly took the urine, asking when they were going to change the date on their crest and badge to 1982. I also suggested that, as they had a wealthy sugar daddy they contact all the small businesses and the 8 players they shafted and offered them all their money back, with the payments adjusted to take account of interest and inflation. I got dogs abuse for a couple of hours then they banned me. Tossers. That Bert Tann guy is an A1 WUM. He's either a gashead having a laugh at them all for believing his rhetoric, or a City fan pretending to be a gashead in order to wind us up. Either way, he's not a serious poster. As with your 2nd point, I really don't understand how they feel they can take the moral high ground. They say we stole the Mem and have always begged for someone to build us a ground. To my knowledge our club has always paid it's debts, and that is why we've struggled financially. The same cannot be said of their club. If they had done the decent thing and paid their debts instead of pulling an underhand stunt, the ragbag shoe may well be on the other foot.
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Post by garystash on Aug 25, 2016 9:52:42 GMT
Only people of a certain age will know what the hell that is :-D
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Post by garystash on Aug 24, 2016 19:54:50 GMT
Maybe. Or maybe he's just showing the right sort of attitude and application in training etc. to warrant tbe starts.
Said on the radio the MS and Ellis had some sort of brotherly moment when he was substituted.
Could be that working hard together is paying off.
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Post by garystash on Aug 23, 2016 10:36:55 GMT
Pain is my friend. A little bit of pain never hurt anybody. Pain means you're alive........................I've been a Rovers fan for over 45 years. I know all about pain. I fell through the roof of a French bakery once. I was in a lot of pain that day I can tell you. Getting the thread back on track, I'm with 79, none of us know anything because exactly like our old board, we are told sweet F A. Not true, the landing lights are on and there was an announcement that was "what everybody wants to hear" ;-)
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Post by garystash on Aug 23, 2016 7:37:49 GMT
Perhaps there was no contract officially in place but you sense some kind of deal must have been agreed in principle with the UWE, but if it was a poor deal perhaps NH did us a good turn by not putting pen to paper on a contract. Wael's team did not do as thorough a "due diligence on UWE" as the other consortium regarding what had already been agreed with UWE and SH admitted at the BRFC AGM that "things came to light" after signing the deal to buy BRFC.
There was no signed Contract between BRFC and UWE under NH stewardship.
I don't doubt there was/is a consortium, but are there any reasons why their identity cannot be revealed now?
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UWE
Aug 22, 2016 14:29:01 GMT
Post by garystash on Aug 22, 2016 14:29:01 GMT
Perhaps there was no contract officially in place but you sense some kind of deal must have been agreed in principle with the UWE, but if it was a poor deal perhaps NH did us a good turn by not putting pen to paper on a contract. Wael's team did not do as thorough a "due diligence on UWE" as the other consortium regarding what had already been agreed with UWE and SH admitted at the BRFC AGM that "things came to light" after signing the deal to buy BRFC.
There was no signed Contract between BRFC and UWE under NH stewardship.
So the other consortium probably knew about the "things that came to light" but were still prepared to build it?
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Post by garystash on Aug 21, 2016 7:09:13 GMT
The penalty was very harsh but that was an awful game of football that wouldn't have looked out of place back in the Vanarama. To me we looked slow and short of ideas going forward, they looked slightly worse and were there for the taking really. Definitely 2 points dropped. That's often what away games are like mind, I can think of quite a few under DC where we've just snatched the points playing poorly (Grimsby, Southport, Yeovil, Luton come to mind) Unfortunately the ref denied us that sort of win today with a fairly awful decision. I think the wingback system is definitely effective. It's probably no coincidence that both teams look poor when we play it.
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Post by garystash on Aug 20, 2016 14:59:22 GMT
Stick or twist predicament coming up for DC, keep it tight and take a point, or change things and go for a win. DC never plays for a point, he'll go for the win!
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Post by garystash on Aug 20, 2016 6:42:49 GMT
Sorry to be dumb, but there's a typo in the thread title and I don't understand the exact question.
Can someone tell me what it should say?
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Post by garystash on Aug 19, 2016 19:52:23 GMT
I am sorry but if there weren't better midfield players around for signing in the summer than Ollie Clarke and Stuart Sinclair then football must be in a bad state. It looks like it is going to be 3 or 4 players coming in in the last few days of the transfer deadline and we will be at least two league matches further down the road. My worry is do these players really want to sign for us if the ait till the last few days? In my opinion DC is getting us players who we are their last resort. These signings should all have been sorted out in the summer and it would have been nice to actually sign players who other cubs actually want. I guess there could be something in this highlighted bit, and I can cite a few reasons why this may be: 1. The Mem is not very impressive. 2. Our training facilities are not great either. 3. Players probably want more money than we are prepared/can pay for them. It becomes a game of who blinks first.
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