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Post by oviedista on Dec 20, 2018 21:58:23 GMT
Positions don’t have fixed adjectives in them. Tall powerful centre backs can soon become slow crap ones. So Craig being small and crap is better? He was reliable and experienced until he played and became crap in the minds of some fans.
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Post by oviedista on Dec 20, 2018 21:39:53 GMT
Positions don’t have fixed adjectives in them. Tall powerful centre backs can soon become slow crap ones.
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Post by oviedista on Dec 14, 2018 12:27:17 GMT
Let's not make this a DC v Trollope debate. Both deserve credit of what they achieved.
What remains to be seen is whether DC's deep changes to attitude and professionalism outlives him (fitness levels have been a big part of DC teams). The drinking et al going on and the won't try for another manager (Penny) was Troll's legacy (which continued until DC). See also Lambert losing a stone in weight after he joint Saints (how much better might have been for us with a proper fitness regime at the club?).
If this teams puts in a shift for the next manager - we might well still have DC to thank.
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Post by oviedista on Dec 13, 2018 21:53:47 GMT
"but each and every season a torrid start gaining promotion in the last kick of the last game on both occasions"
Why can nobody criticise DC with throwing this kids stuff in. But nothing.
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Post by oviedista on Dec 13, 2018 17:27:24 GMT
Evolution is a slow progress, you're looking for a revolution which Wael's never really promised us. At the end of the day the owners have acted in the best interests of the club in relieving DC of his duties, as otherwise it was looking like DC would have another relegation on his CV. Whilst DC maybe a good Div 2 manager he's still really needs to prove he's got what it takes at Div 1 level. I'd say the club need to prove they've got what it takes at Div 1 level. At the moment it feels like stagnation not evolution. And "another relegation on his CV" - really?
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Post by oviedista on Dec 13, 2018 17:07:01 GMT
Sorry, i know you all love DC and I appreciate everything he has done for the club but it was very much time for a change the recruitment and tactics have been shocking! He has admitted he's had the biggest budget ever (though if you listen carefully to a good handful of interviews he changes what he says.. alot) ... he constantly moaned last season about the state of the pitch so money was pumped in so we now have a lush pitch... for hoofball, this season it's the stadium etc which albeit abit annoying really isn't his problem it's just deflection from his own mistakes, I really don't understand what's with everyone saying "lack of backing" and pointing fingers at the owners constantly... as for long term I'd try Chris Hargreaves! I don't think anyone (least of all DC himself) was saying he wasn't struggling or made mistakes. It's deeper than that. DC called the club out long ago for being 20 years behind the times. He changed the culture within the club singlehandedly but could't do anything about that. The board promised an evolution toward Championship level but none of that has happened. DC overachieved and needed the club to catch up so he could continue. It didn't, the momentum was lost and the morale harder to keep up/ players harder to attract (no future ground/ training facilities). He and players thus lost their mojo. When people say he hasn't been backed this is what I think many mean.
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Post by oviedista on Dec 10, 2018 19:05:42 GMT
The truth is it started to go wrong last February, and that is when we had Harrison and Gaffney up front. So now we have two new "strikers" we blame them. For me DC has been lucky. In the Conference he had a team that had a football league defence and an attack that had something to prove. Everything came together at the right time, and that team rode a crest of a wave in to this division Since then we have had to strengthen and after making a few terrible signings like Byrne for example, and he has bought in "experience". Experience is expensive compared to a youngster, and usually experience lacks pace. IMHO we didn't need Upson, and I would have been happy to see Kelly continue as left back. So, there are 2 signings we could have saved on. But DC got them in because he will not trust himself to play young players. I think most of us would prefer to see a team with some well drilled and well coached kids in it trying their very best rather than what we have seen over the past few months. We just about beat Swanseas Under 21 team with our "experienced" players and yet it was a kiddy who scored the winning goal. DC is arrogant and he can complain as much as he likes but he has a better budget than half of this league. He used the pitch as an excuse last season, The owners this season. I wonder who will be the excuse next season if they keep him on? Maybe it will be the supporters fault because we only turn out in low numbers. I made the choice not to go yesterday despite having a season ticket. the first home game I have missed in 7 years. I didn't go because I thought, it will be the same players, in the same formations and that will mean the same result. DC hung on to Luke James for too long, he has done the same with Nicholls. If we have a manager who is so reluctant to change his ways then they he will take us down I can accept a lot of criticism of DC. But saying he's been lucky is plain stupid and insulting. The state of the club/ squad when we were last relegated - no luck in the world could turn that around.
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Post by oviedista on Dec 4, 2018 23:01:37 GMT
Forgive me, but what you seem to be saying is the politics 'is what it is'. That's not an argument it's just saying you don't care. I would redirect you to what I said before that. I think the issue isn't solved by barring u23 teams from the competition or saying no to B Teams - the issue is the lack of money at the lower levels of the game where players only real option is to sign for clubs like Southampton or West Brom (who both have strong youth scouting and coaching structures within the West Country) rather than play for Bristol Rovers where they can earn a decent wage and develop unless they take a huge risk in staying here, coupled with the lack of infrastructure for teams at a lower level. Facilities available to raise the standard of all players and allowing clubs to not rely on their one or two golden gooses. Imposing harsher rules on clubs at the top level on compensation for signing players from smaller clubs. I think there is a lot more to argue against and push for than saying kids shouldn't be playing in the competition. Is the cup flawed? Definitely. The restrictions on team selection is asinine. Group stages are f**king pointless. And yes, I don't believe u23 teams or reserve teams should be involved. And when they come up to debate next time on competition format, I will be 100% behind any supporter move to tell the EFL to cowboy the f**k up and tell the EPL to f**k off and keep the competition as it was. But what is the situation right now? Right now, we are in a competition that could lead us to Wembley. A competition we could realistically win. A competition to bring pride and morale back to a club sorely needing. We can't change the format now. We can only play the games in front of us. So why not make the most of it? And you know what would be more powerful than sitting at home? Going to Wembley and throwing shade at the EFL to their face. Banners, protests - straight forward f**k you, we won your cup, now make change. Showing to their faces how much we can make change happen. What media is taking notice of this "boycott"? They just think we're all sitting at home because we're bored. One of the most important steps in any movement of change is visibility - people seeing that there's change to be made. All in all, I get what you are all standing for and I support that. I only think there's a different way to do it and I want to see my team win. That should always be the goal. This started well but ended up back where you started, You are fully against everything this competition stands for but from "what is the situation right now?' you just pretty much repeat that you don't care anyway (because how it can help the club is more important). The idea we bank on a protest at Wembley (that probably won't happen) is fairly hopeful given those that go won't care. As for the impact of the boycott - the clubs care. They won't support a tournament for long that costs them money to take part in. If you go to these games you support the format of the tournament and there is little way around that. So given you don't you shouldn't go. Look at Port Vale tonight - absolute shambles.
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Post by oviedista on Dec 2, 2018 16:51:03 GMT
I take it you don't have a problem with premiership sides having squads of 50+ players that are allowed to compete against teams that couldnt afford to pay the wages of any of them.... I know this is a slightly dramatic response but you catch my drift? Again, totally understand that. For what it's worth I think it's a poor idea to include U23 teams in the competition and I think it's terrible that teams are literally stockpiling players now. Personally we need to see wealth redistributed down the leagues to allow teams to compete with wages against bigger clubs before messing around with competition formats. However, it is what it is. I'm more interested in winning and success and I think there's no better opportunity right now to do that than winning this trophy. Forgive me, but what you seem to be saying is the politics 'is what it is'. That's not an argument it's just saying you don't care.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 30, 2018 21:31:58 GMT
When City eventually come in their thousands to laugh at us because we are playing their 'U23/ do what you like' team against our 'play your firsts or else' team - who that goes will be be able to hide from the fact we are being ridiculed?
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Post by oviedista on Nov 28, 2018 2:28:29 GMT
So... We should make him groundsman or something so he has to keep his contract for a year. Then get relegated on purpose. Then get rid of all the players. Then get a whole new team of amazing players with the millions saved by not buying one or two players a year before.
And apparently it's DC who has "lost the plot".
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Post by oviedista on Nov 27, 2018 22:56:37 GMT
We'll be dead bottom come xmas. I’d bet my house we’ll get relegated with lowest points😢 That's a conditional but it's not something you can't theoretically do.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 27, 2018 21:59:31 GMT
So it now seems obvious DC is taking us down so do the board just accept that or finally show some b@lls and sack him and employ a manager who may keep us up? 2 -3 games with a new manager and relegation could be even more obvious. There is a very small chance a new manager 'may' keep us up. But the thing you can guarantee is that we will continue to be a ramshackle club with a poor side. So the odds are low.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 22, 2018 17:58:57 GMT
True - We are where we are purely down to DC. That's because DC is bigger than the club. Only in the heads of the misinformed and the confused DC got us into League 1. Or am I misinformed? Who else did?
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Post by oviedista on Nov 22, 2018 0:23:29 GMT
We are on our way down again. So sad we are run by people who dont give a sh** Please don't blame the owners. We are where we are purely down to DC. He signed the players, he picks the team, he decides the tactics. The club is bigger than DC and that is why he must leave sooner rather than later. Sad but true True - We are where we are purely down to DC. That's because DC is bigger than the club.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 21, 2018 15:38:02 GMT
You ain’t Wael are you? And we could always drop back down to the conference you must be the only supporter who wants relegation I loved the conference season. Sure was a lot more fun than this season! Sunderland away or Sutton away, any fan just wants to see their team win more than lose. I enjoyed it too. However, the moaning was as feverish as ever. Draws were the old loses and wins were never by enough. "We should be putting theses teams to the sword"/ "If we had Martin Allen we would be ..." etc etc
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Post by oviedista on Nov 17, 2018 18:44:00 GMT
Yeah, he was one of our better players again. I'm sorry for people who only know how to judge football by counting things. But there are other aspects to the game. If he keeps being one of our better players, and the other players in his position continue to produce dross, it doesn't make sense to drop him. Trouble is the league likes counting things more than supporters do. Unless I've missed the "Most Effort" column in the table. The league doesn't count anything except goals wins and draws so that leaves quite a lot to ignore.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 14, 2018 11:30:09 GMT
If we were buying a defensive midfielder with that sort of form over two seasons there would be outcry. He's a striker. I honestly can't believe this is even a discussion. Rory Gaffney scored 16 in two seasons and people wanted rid. Sure but I'm not talking about buying anyone. The point is it is possible to be encouraged by improved form and not cancel it out based on his overall record. It's funny how the opposite often happens when a player dips in form - all the previous stuff is forgotten.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 13, 2018 23:49:45 GMT
If you want to complain we lost to lower league opposition then equally, celebrate our giant killing act against West Ham.
It's all a nonsense. No Sunday league team would play in a cup with different rules for different teams, why should League sides?
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Post by oviedista on Nov 13, 2018 23:40:24 GMT
One goal. Five assists. TWO SEASONS. It's called form.
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