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Post by bluestone on Feb 10, 2019 15:26:40 GMT
I disagree that we were set up defensively, it's just that we had the wrong offensive tactics.
I am sure the team expected to come out and play as they had done in the last 2 fixtures but instead it turned into Wycombe 2.0 because the side we were playing against had a game plan to break up the play, time waste at every opportunity, play to the refs whistle and basically just be a complete bunch of bar stewards!
I thought to myself as I left the mem after the game, I don't think I could support a team who plays like that.
Whist I generally support GC's "keep the jersey" and "90% us" approach I would agree that something DC was good at (more often than not) was studying the opposition in advance and selecting a team to match them. It was obvious after 15 mins that it wasn't working for us so I think GC should have made the changes then rather than wait until the 2nd half.
If you listen to his post match interview he more or less says that he got it wrong so hopefully that's lesson learned and he will not make that mistake again.
It was amazing the difference as soon as the 2 subs were brought on, it's just a pity they weren't on from the start as I'm pretty certain we would have won the game.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 10, 2019 10:30:25 GMT
Feel like I didn't see much of him yesterday to form an opinion but I'm hoping he'll be a decent player for us.
Does make me wonder how Sincs and Upson are going to get any game time though.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 10, 2019 9:56:43 GMT
Go for it, it can't do any harm can it? You might want to remove the kisses from the bottom though before you send it.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 10, 2019 9:53:47 GMT
Rickettsia youre a lying, cheating Bastard. If your team had contented themselves with just playing the way they did then fine, no complaints from me at all. HOWEVER, you quite clearly sent your team out to commit as many fouls as possible, with obviously clear instructions to try and goad and rile the opposition at every opportunity. Your players were in the water-poor referees face at every opportunity, and that C unt with 7 on his back spent the entire afternoon following t We were as bad at getting in the refs face. The whole game was a very unsporting affair. Ref was sh** yes but.... we played sh** again at home and our players didn’t conduct themselves in the right manner. It happens every week at the mem. We know it will happen every week. Why don’t we learn??? Nah sorry but we weren't anywhere near as bad. The shrews behaved like that from the kick off, it was quite clearly their game plan. Our players eventually were drawn down to their level a bit but that wasn't until much later in the game after the ref had completely lost control as he had been bullied all game by the Shrews. Tbh I really don't blame them, they had to balance things up and it proved to be the only way they could get any decisions going their way.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 9, 2019 19:18:12 GMT
Poor performance overall but an even worse one from an atrocious referee. I would love to know why Ollie Norburn didn't get sent off. Another ref could have easily sent off 4 players today. Shrewsbury wanted an ugly game, and a ref like that let them get away with it. Nobody stood out today. THD probably our best player from memory. Partington was awful, did he do anything right today? Lines has had it, should be released. Nichols and Reilly disappointing but service up to them was poor. Missed Ollie Clarke today. At least other results went quite well for us so a point wasn't the end of the world, although 2 points less than I was expecting us to get at the start of the today. Agree with this. We were poor but I think that was probably down to the Shrews game plan working. They were a horrible side weren't they? Constantly time wasting and playing to the refs whistle, being very inexperienced he fell for it hook line and sinker! Tbh I am absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the sh*t standard of officiating in this division, perhaps it's me being biased but we really do seem to get the rough end of the deal most of the time. After 10/15 mins today it was obvious we were a much weaker side and lacking any physical presence being out muscled all over the park. Whilst I am generally supportive of GC's "you keep the jersey if we play well" approach I think there was a case to be made today for bringing on JCH after 20 mins as it was clear they had the better of us. We were unable to win any first or second balls and kept losing the ball in midfield. It seems to me that when we play a team who wants to play football (usually a side up the top end of the table) we are able to get our game going and perform quite well. Whereas when we play those at the bottom it ends up being a scrap so i think GC should have made a change earlier rather than wait until we are into the 2nd half.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 9, 2019 13:26:41 GMT
This game could be a game changer imo.
If we can put in a performance as good as the Southend game and the first half of the game against Posh then I reckon we win today and the confidence and feel good factor in the squad (and indeed amongst the fan base) continues to build and we then go into Tuesday against Portsmouth believing we can get something there.
After that we have Sunderland at home, if we at least avoid defeat in that game then it sets up a very interesting semi final in the crapatrade trophy with them. GC said in his interview with 20man that he wanted to beat them after narrowly losing his first have in charge against them so he will want to exact his revenge on that match imo to knock them out of the cup and from what I have seen of GC so far he hates losing so will be going out all guns blazing to secure the win and get us to Wembley.
Although a significant number of fans do not support the competition, getting to the final at Wembley would be a very good achievement for the club, continue building that winning mentality it would also be a real statement of intent from GC regarding cup runs which as we know in recent history we have been very poor. If he can achieve that in his first season what might he be able to do next season in the EFL or FA cup?
I'm really trying not to get my hopes up in case we get another Wycombe today but given the last 2 games I just can't help it. I'm hopeful and really looking forward to the game!!!
2-1 Gas win, Sercs and Nichols to score. Ogogo will start and Clark Harris will come on after 60mins to be a really big pain in Shrewsbury's butt denying them any points.
UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 4, 2019 23:57:07 GMT
Imagine our management team organising a rebuild of the mem.... Got some bad news for you.... It's already started!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 4, 2019 18:36:42 GMT
Oh no, not this again....do we have to???
Really enjoyed the break from reading all the nonsense since DC departed and GC took over. Ah well it was good whilst it lasted!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 3, 2019 14:55:22 GMT
The fact that we are running a deficit is not GC's fault, these are questions that should be answered by the board/owners. Just because GC is the only public face of BRFC does not mean it should be down to him to explain the long term plan. GC is the manager and mainly responsible for the team, their performances and player / coaching staff recruitment. I want him to stick to that and not get distracted like DC did, look what happened to him, it seems as if it drove him mad and he lost focus. Mate, If you think that GC manages in a bubble then I am afraid you are in cloud cuckoo land. Of course the finances of the club concern him, it directly impacts his playing budget and his ability to recruit. DC was right when he raised these issues, right when he was saying the club will not progress as it stands. What he got wrong is that he offered no solution or vision of what that would look like going forward. Mate, if you think it's a good idea for the manager to get distracted by concerning himself with things he cannot affect to the point where the team suffer due to his negativity to the point where we risk relegation which would then impact on the finances then fair enough. Sounds like you wish DC was still here, well much as I love DC and wanted him to stay and turn things around you can't argue with the facts and the fact is that GC has turned things around and we now have a chance of survival so I suggest you get behind him. UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 3, 2019 12:05:46 GMT
The fact that we are running a deficit is not GC's fault, these are questions that should be answered by the board/owners. Just because GC is the only public face of BRFC does not mean it should be down to him to explain the long term plan. GC is the manager and mainly responsible for the team, their performances and player / coaching staff recruitment. I want him to stick to that and not get distracted like DC did, look what happened to him, it seems as if it drove him mad and he lost focus. Furthermore, it's pretty much the manager's job to try to get us a bigger deficit, effectively. Yes and it seems it's our job to eat as many sausage rolls as we can to bring down the deficit!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 3, 2019 11:55:53 GMT
Spot on. If Cogs started talking about next season and what his plans are for it in an interview at the moment I’d be very worried. It’s all about between now and May and when we know what division we’re in then we hear about next season. No doubt contract talks will happen between now and then regarding certain players but we’ll find out when they’re signed or not as the case may be. For now it’s all about Shrewsbury on Saturday and that’s the way it should be. Ok, well I will accept the majority view. I am not convinced that this is not very short sighted. The harsh reality is we are running a £750k to £1m cash deficit per season, budget cuts are rumoured to be looming and this season, to date has been awful. What's the plan? In closing, the manager does one pre match interview per week. If he is the point man, it wouldn't take a lot to talk to the fan base once a month and discuss something more than just the current match issues. Edit. You get rumours like this. Hardly positive is it. From a poster on this thread and has its own "A good friend of mine has a son who plays for rovers under 14 team. He and his parents have been told that rovers will be scrapping/closing all academy operations at the end of the season. This is of course hearsay and may in fact prove to be untrue. Not the development squad but all academy teams." The fact that we are running a deficit is not GC's fault, these are questions that should be answered by the board/owners. Just because GC is the only public face of BRFC does not mean it should be down to him to explain the long term plan. GC is the manager and mainly responsible for the team, their performances and player / coaching staff recruitment. I want him to stick to that and not get distracted like DC did, look what happened to him, it seems as if it drove him mad and he lost focus.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 3, 2019 11:09:36 GMT
How do you know he is not doing all of that as well? Just because he is not telling all of us about it in his interviews does not mean there is no planning going on. I would say the recruitment in this window shows he is long term planning, he's managed to bring in what looks like 2 solid signings both of which are permanent not loans, he's got rid of dead wood like Payne. GC has only been in charge for a number of weeks, I think it's only fair that we should give him a chance to show us what he can do in both the short and long term. We've only lost 1 in 10 since he's taken over, the players confidence seems to be restored, it's like we are a completely different team than when DC was here, I say this as someone who did not want DC to leave. He certainly seems to be able to bring out the best in what we have and I for one rather like his carrot and stick approach. Long may it continue. If he can ensure our survival then I will look forward to seeing what he can bring in the next window and how he prepares the squad in the summer for next season. Let's give him a chance oldie! Absolutely back him and support him. We're you at the Wycombe game? We won yesterday, if we had lost 2-1 I am pretty sure the despondency would be as equally silly as the elation because we won. But that's not really the point. If we are to get out of this continuous cycle of under achievement things need to change, surely? In about 4 months for example season tickets for next year will be on sale. After this awful, so far, season what incentive will there be for people to fork out rather than pick and choose their games? Buying into a plan or vision could be an incentive. Or will be as normal where we toss and turn for a few weeks and bring in an underwhelming signing at a quarter to midnight? So absolutely over the next couple of days the focus must be Shrewsbury next Saturday. Wednesday, Thursday and Friday? It is said the UK has a productivity problem, personified at BRFC I would suggest. Yes I was there to witness Wycombe but credit to GC he spoke truth to all and kicked them up the backside which seems to have had the desired effect. Since GC has been in charge I would say you can only really pick out that one game as an example of the players not playing for the shirt and putting in a decent shift. The seasons far from over, if GC can get the players to continue to play as they did yesterday and against posh then fans will want to come and watch which will improve the gates now and if he can get us to safety whilst playing like that then I would expect ST sales to be Ok on the basis that we can expect more of the same next season. If he can get us up the table over the next few weeks and heading to safety then we might hear him say stuff about longer term planning for a future in L1 and possibly further than that. Put yourself in his shoes, if I were him I would not be doing that right now as it would look silly in light of the fact that we are in a relegation battle! Ensure our safety first then he can share his thoughts on where he wants to take us and how he is going to do it.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 3, 2019 10:53:25 GMT
Much as I don't like Payne and am glad we have seen the back of him I don't want to see him abused.
I rather hope he doesn't play to be honest so we as supporters can put our energy into cheering on the team rather than shouting abuse at him.
In any event is it not the case that he has not been sold just gone on loan? Assuming he has a minimum 2 year deal he'll return to us at the end of the season so unfortunately he's still our problem for now!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 3, 2019 10:39:56 GMT
Do you want to hear this now or would you like him to roll his sleeves up and make sure Rovers stay in L1 first ? I know what I want and I think GC and his staff want the same. Let's be honest. What does "roll his sleeves" mean exactly? He has a 2.5 year contract I am lead to believe, is he leaving planning for next season until May? I cannot accept that playing football for 90 minutes once (occasionally twice) a week takes up 5 full days of coaching and training. As a manager with overall control with an assistant and coaching staff in place particularly. It's a well paid job, perhaps my perception of commitment differs but personally I tire of bland platitudes on short clips which completely lack any substance of note. How do you know he is not doing all of that as well? Just because he is not telling all of us about it in his interviews does not mean there is no planning going on. I would say the recruitment in this window shows he is long term planning, he's managed to bring in what looks like 2 solid signings both of which are permanent not loans, he's got rid of dead wood like Payne. GC has only been in charge for a number of weeks, I think it's only fair that we should give him a chance to show us what he can do in both the short and long term. We've only lost 1 in 10 since he's taken over, the players confidence seems to be restored, it's like we are a completely different team than when DC was here, I say this as someone who did not want DC to leave. He certainly seems to be able to bring out the best in what we have and I for one rather like his carrot and stick approach. Long may it continue. If he can ensure our survival then I will look forward to seeing what he can bring in the next window and how he prepares the squad in the summer for next season. Let's give him a chance oldie!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 3, 2019 10:18:47 GMT
While it was a great win, Southend fans are fuming. One fan calling it their worst performance in 50 years, another saying their worst of the season. Refuse to get carried away just yet. Yeah well they would say that wouldn't they! Not getting carried away but I think you have to give our lads a lot of credit for putting in another decent shift and performance and getting what was a crucial win. I didn't go myself but listened on the radio and it seemed to me they played like they did against the posh, coming out of the blocks with high energy / press and tempo in the first half. I don't believe we were able to do that because Southend were crap yesterday, it's more likely that the way we came at them put them on the back foot and the game plan worked. They had to change formation at half time to get a foot hold in the game but by then we had the lead and dug in well holding on for the win.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 2, 2019 16:57:38 GMT
Well done gas!!! We deserved and needed that.
UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 2, 2019 16:55:54 GMT
Please hold on please hold on please hold on!!!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 2, 2019 16:10:53 GMT
Hit the woodwork again!? I reckon our players have been practicing the cross bar challenge in their spare time. Someone should tell them to bloody well stop!!!
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Post by bluestone on Feb 2, 2019 15:34:33 GMT
Yes, another Nicho assist get Reilly the goal he desperately needed.
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Post by bluestone on Feb 2, 2019 15:27:50 GMT
You've got to give Nicho some credit for that assist, didn't have a lot of time to think and squared it perfectly to Sercs who finished it beautifully. UTG!
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