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Post by Jomo on May 24, 2021 11:22:47 GMT
Thanks Harley, really is much appreciated. However did you wean yourself off the forum? For me typing gasch... into my address bar is like a reflex, so I was a bit lost over the weekend! I never really realise how addicted I am until it's not available... More than happy to send in a donation to the North Bristol food bank
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Post by Jomo on May 24, 2021 11:01:48 GMT
It's scandalous that the system has been set up this way, unchallenged. I still cannot quite believe how few people seem to either not know or not care or not understand the implications of the EPPP for lower league football. There's all this talk of B teams, ESL and all that crap, but the EPPP was a major cog in the wheel of driving an almost insurmountable wedge between the elite clubs and the lower leagues. You’re correct Jomo but istr after another World Cup failure that the need for “top clubs” to control training and develop young England players was a reason given in the earlier 2000s for the system as it is today. And with the increased number of younger, talented players available for England now I don’t think the needs of clubs like ours is even on the FA or PL agenda to change it. Its very sad and whilst it may have produced a good number of England players it doesn’t take account of the thousands of players who’ve never had an opportunity to develop and have been lost through lack of real opportunity. Very sad. UTG! The benefit to the England national team was and still is in my opinion, used as a smokescreen. The really benefit is for the Premier League clubs to be legitimised in trawling and hoarding talent and ultimately making more money through sales of both the successes and the "failures" for want of a better word. It wouldn't even bother me as much if the compensation package was actually enough to cover the cost of running these academies.
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Post by Jomo on May 24, 2021 10:26:33 GMT
Honestly what chance do lower league clubs have of making their academies pay, when the vultures from the Prem hoover up every sniff of a talent for a snip under the EPPP? Agreed. Compo is pocket change for them (if that!!). No opportunity to play them either to increase their value. Little clubs get f**ked over as with everything else in football today It's scandalous that the system has been set up this way, unchallenged. I still cannot quite believe how few people seem to either not know or not care or not understand the implications of the EPPP for lower league football. There's all this talk of B teams, ESL and all that crap, but the EPPP was a major cog in the wheel of driving an almost insurmountable wedge between the elite clubs and the lower leagues.
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Post by Jomo on May 24, 2021 9:59:59 GMT
Honestly what chance do lower league clubs have of making their academies pay, when the vultures from the Prem hoover up every sniff of a talent for a snip under the EPPP?
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Post by Jomo on May 22, 2021 10:40:39 GMT
Going down in solidarity with their blue and white quartered cousins, I respect that!
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Post by Jomo on May 21, 2021 17:31:18 GMT
Lines v westbroke Lines can cross a ball how anyone can say u would rather have westbroke than lines must be potty come on how many free kicks corners wasted oh and barret in the gym he needs a fat farm so overweight must weigh 16 stone westbroke runs away from tackles if westbroke and Barrett plays next season all season then we will go down like Southend I'd rather have 2 gasheads in lines and olly Clarke than them too they should be playing Sunday league to be honest I know a lot of Sunday league managers that wouldn't touch them poor players and westbroke worst I've ever seen from dead ball situations my 11 year old puts in better crosses ......and.....breathe.........
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Post by Jomo on May 21, 2021 15:05:19 GMT
If he was any good would Ipswich have released him We probably better not sign any released players this summer then.
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Post by Jomo on May 21, 2021 13:10:31 GMT
Chris lines would be a excellent signing Lines v westbroke Lines goes up for headers westbroke shys away lines makes 30 to 40 yard passes Westbroke drops into back 3 collects ball then makes a 3 yard pass to another defender Lines tackles westbroke dont Lines has passion wants to win westbroke don't Lines will put his body on the line westbroke runs away That's why we will sign lines akindi Bodin is nailed on I'd put 500 pounds against anyone who wants a bet he won't come And the final ones will come from Fleetwood wes burns and 2 from Plymouth who are out of contract Mayor and another Sorry, there is so much I doubt about this post that I don't know where to start!
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Post by Jomo on May 21, 2021 10:10:58 GMT
Not sure what Rovers side you have been watching 🤔. What time period are you talking about the 90s early 00s? Recent history we have been way off. Yes this is what i was asking clarity on. Recent history (since first relegation to league 2 ) As previous to that the club finished top 10 5 times in the 90s + 3 seasons championship. 5 times in the 80s + 2 seasons championship. 5 times in the 70s + 5 seasons championship. 2 times in the 60s + 3 seasons championship. 4 times in the 50s + 6 seasons championship. So prior to 2000 the club was placed lower than 10th in league 1 (equivalents at time) just 20% of seasons . If you watched your football through the 70s,80s,90s then you only saw a below 10th finish in league one 5 times in 30 years ! But since the Holloway collapse the club has never recovered fully. March 2000, Bristol Rovers 3-1 Chesterfield at the Mem. Who'd have thought then that that would be the pinnacle of our powers over the next 21 years and counting. The week after that we got our arses kicked by Reading and Millwall to start off our slide, and we've never reached those heights again since.
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Post by Jomo on May 20, 2021 19:24:43 GMT
Starting to make sense now. Hulbert is going to agree his contract, Dayle Grubb is coming from WSM, Jordan Slew will leave Morecambe once the play offs are done, Andy Dibble agrees to be our new goalkeeping coach and Marc Pugh will become a player coach....so that’s Slew, Pugh, Charlie Mulgrew, Hulbert, Dibble and Grubb! Which suggests we’ll be back playing at Trumpton. Genius!
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Post by Jomo on May 20, 2021 12:57:27 GMT
Not sure I agree with the thing of "worst footballer in the league" but certainly after Christmas his form was abysmal. I do wonder if the lack of fitness and carrying an injury led to a dip in form, which then also led to a crisis of confidence, and then it's a vicious circle. So far that reason I am still happy to give him the benefit of the doubt to come back next season a different player.
However, one thing I would also criticise him for aside from his first touch, finishing and balance (and that's enough) is that to me his football brain is really poor. In my opinion from watching him, he rarely made a good choice when in possession. Quite often he was running into blind alleys or back towards the halfway line, prior to losing possession, when so often he could have laid the ball off and made a run. The only game after Christmas that I can recall him making a positive contribution was the Shrewsbury game, where he made a dangerous decoy run for the first goal, and made a clever run off into space to receive the ball from Westbrooke and he finished well. That's 1 game in about 20-25 games, where the rest I do not recall him doing anything useful.
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Post by Jomo on May 20, 2021 12:22:29 GMT
Oh for christ sake it's Hanlan not bloody Hanlon!!! How blasphemous.... Christ... Capital 'C'.... He also missed the punctuation after "sake". Shocking!
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Post by Jomo on May 20, 2021 9:16:08 GMT
In your blinkered view neither Swansea or Hull needed a 20,000+ stadium as at the time of planning they both were averaging less fans than we do. Bristol city averaged about 12000 the season they last got promoted from league one. They obviously dont need a 27000 seater stadium. Further emphasising the point, nice!
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Post by Jomo on May 19, 2021 23:46:24 GMT
Well barum, as I like researching random club's stadiums, and found Clyde's stadium to look pretty smart, I went down a bit of a rabbit hole...
I didn't have any idea that Airdrieonions, formerly Airdrie United, are basically a scottish version of MK Dons!? I remember Clydebank being read out on the Grandstand football scores when I was younger, and vaguely wondered what had happened to them, but never knew that Airdrie stole their identity!
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Post by Jomo on May 19, 2021 20:20:33 GMT
Why can't you see that it's not a case of one or the other? We can do what's needed to address the day to day side of the club, while AT THE SAME TIME press forward with stadium plans. It's not rocket science. No, you are right…the new stadium is the answer to all our problems and that is where we should concentrate our intellectual energy and sparse resources. OK so trying to explain my point to you is like banging my head against a brick wall. I'll leave it there.
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Post by Jomo on May 19, 2021 19:54:30 GMT
So you make a statement saying debts are worrying high but you haven't a clue what they are at present nor what the Mem is worth. I'd say we're in better financial shape, security wise. than we've been for years. You're just a scaremongering with some weird fascination about us not requiring a new stadium, when 99.99% of the fan base can clearly see that we need one or one day we'll simply fail to exist as a club. Well, I’ve just given you an estimate for the Mem, there is no way it’s worth £30 million for residential development even if it had uninterrupted views of the Clifton Suspension Bridge, I can’t think of any other assets if it’s sold for redevelopment…I have read on here suggestions that we are probably losing £3 million annually. I have merely highlighted that the Mem isn’t our problem, the team and football management are however and without sorting them out we have no future as a Football League club, the mythical new stadium can wait!Why can't you see that it's not a case of one or the other? We can do what's needed to address the day to day side of the club, while AT THE SAME TIME press forward with stadium plans. It's not rocket science.
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Post by Jomo on May 19, 2021 16:50:56 GMT
Well of course it doesn't - my point was about the army training, as pointed out in a follow up post Not having a dig mate, just that there are stats for everything now and they seem to have been used to identify last years signings,( unfortunately,) so sure someone will come up with 'statistically' the best day to start training ! I reckon Tuesdays...everyone likes a long weekend before going back to work!
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Post by Jomo on May 19, 2021 15:52:42 GMT
Haha, your dream just came true my friend! One thing you can bet your last penny on... If Rovers build a 30,000 stadium on the site . Lansdowne will extend a stand at trashton to make the capacity bigger . In fact he will probably do it the minute he sees the FM plan's. True, but unfortunately I don't think that's a problem we're ever going to have!
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Post by Jomo on May 19, 2021 15:43:37 GMT
Yes, more than enough and considerably larger than the Mem footprint. If only someone could put together a list of stadiums with their surrounding land in order by share mile/feet. We can but dream Haha, your dream just came true my friend! Thought the land was bigger than the Mem stadium footprint but not much bigger inc the car park? I still can't see what they are going to build to bring in so much money over and above football income. Tempted to bloody pin this post at this rate 😂 1. Cardiff City Stadium (33,280) - 91,296 m2 2. Liberty Stadium (21,088) - 58,713 m2 3. Deepdale, Preston (23,404) - 52,778 m2 4. Fruit Market Site (?) - 52,292 m2
5. DW Stadium, Wigan (25,138) - 50,382 m2 6. Molineux Stadium (31,700) - 42,793 m2 7. Amex Stadium (30,666) - 42,461 m2 8. Madejski Stadium (24,161) - 40,998 m2 9. Ashton Gate (27,000) - 35,195 m2 10. NY Stadium, Rotherham (12,021) - 31,828 m2 11. Mem Site (12,300 ) - 28,576 m2 The land is huge, there will be apartment blocks following the river I believe. I think someone also said they've bought a couple of plots surrounding the FM too. I'd guess/expect hotels, bowling/cinemas, shopping centre - etc?
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Post by Jomo on May 19, 2021 12:43:30 GMT
To be fair appointing any manager is a gamble, rookie or experienced. On paper appointing Graydon, Atkins, Buckle, Francis Mk2 were all sound appointments, but all turned into a disaster. On the other hand, Ollie, Trolls, DC and GC were all either newbies or inexperienced and all did well for us. Look at Blackpool under Critchley, Cheltenham under Duff, Barrow and Bolton under Evatt, Luton under Nathan Jones first time round. Plenty of newbie managers that bring fresh ideas and energy to a club. Sadly for us we made a similarly risky move with Garner and it was a disaster. Doesn't mean we shouldn't ever try something similar again in the future.
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