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Post by gassince1957 on Aug 31, 2023 12:21:23 GMT
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Post by gassince1957 on Aug 24, 2023 17:55:57 GMT
Isn't today the day the Planning Officer was going to agree (or reject) the plan? I'm sure I've seen 24 August quoted earlier in this thread.
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Post by gassince1957 on Aug 24, 2023 13:16:47 GMT
Done
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Post by gassince1957 on Aug 22, 2023 15:01:03 GMT
Nice re aquaintance with GC in November .....thats presuming he doesn't up and leave sunny south Wales for Yorkshire! Don't have a problem with GC. He always seemed like a straightforward bloke, and knew that he wasn't part of the board's long term vision, so I don't blame him for heading to pastures new. It was probably better to give the "missing home" reason, rather than saying "I know that the board don't rate me". I did find his style of football boring though. That's one way of putting it! We were flying up the league, winning most games, yet the crowd stayed around 6,500 to 7,000. And we still had 4 sides to the ground at the time... It proved that winning isn't everything as I can recall comments about how our crowds would be massive if we were winning regularly - we were and the crowd figures stayed medium to low!
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Post by gassince1957 on Aug 10, 2023 19:04:51 GMT
Without knowing the details of the proposed change it's not really possible to be objective however the response of the Conservative Councillor is pathetic regardless of how valid their criticism may or may not be. Would the response have been pathetic if a Labour councillor said it? Just wondered.......
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Post by gassince1957 on Aug 6, 2023 17:38:58 GMT
If the fruiter comes off you can bet the very same objectors will be right on the case if the Mem is being converted into housing. And I'll be laughing my socks off!
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 27, 2023 9:26:59 GMT
maybe he has spoken to Wael and TG and they have told him to do it the way he wants, in that case it's nobody else's business and he can do what he likes and if the fans want to cry about it that's their problem, personally I couldn't give a shut aslong as we got a team challenging and so far it looks.like we have If you are only concerned with how we perform on the pitch then good for you. I personally cannot / won't turn a blind eye to all of the other stuff just because we are doing ok on the pitch. In 5/10 years time nobody will remember how many games we won in the 23/24 season, but damage to our reputation as a club socially certainly will be remembered. Without meaning to sound patronising, I think it is good that we have fans who do not seem to have such a fine tuned moral compass, because if we didn't I am not sure there would be many fans actually going to games. Seriously, do you really think anyone outside of our immediate vicinity/club gives a monkeys about Barton? Our so-called reputation is based on how we perform on the pitch, not whoever happens to be on the staff at any time.
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 23, 2023 18:14:05 GMT
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 19, 2023 12:14:11 GMT
For all those who have not participated in previous seasons I will soon be reviving the guess the crowd game for the new season and do not forget this season points are awarded for the top 5 nearest guesses for home and away supporters. New gasheads always welcome to try their luck each week. UTG Is that with or without the new stand?
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 19, 2023 12:13:19 GMT
BNP Paribas are one of the largest banks in the world headquartered in Paris. If they’re involved I can only assume that Natiowide have merely acted as a mortgage broker with BNP being the actual lender. How does the poster know they’re involved ? It's on the BCC Planning portal - they are shown as agents, no inside information!
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 18, 2023 18:05:11 GMT
Could be absolute b*llocks but… Someone on one of the Facebook groups reckons a member of staff at the club informed them PP has been granted whilst at the club shop earlier. Would love it to be true but highly unlikely based on these dates: Application Validated Date Thu 29 Jun 2023 Actual Committee Date Neighbour Consultation Expiry Date Thu 27 Jul 2023 Standard Consultation Expiry Date Tue 01 Aug 2023 Latest Advertisement Expiry Date Wed 02 Aug 2023 Latest Site Notice Expiry Date Wed 02 Aug 2023 Agreed Expiry Date Permission Expiry Date Determination Deadline Thu 24 Aug 2023 Temporary Permission Expiry Date Facebook and Twitter are not well-known for being beacons of truth and accuracy! Thinking about it Gaschat is not always reliable........
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 18, 2023 14:21:20 GMT
Our application looks like it was prepared by professional planning consultants and the stand manufacturer who must have done this many many times. Guess people can make there own decision where the delay was but I suspect anyone who has dealt with under resourced government departments recently will have a view ....... BCC use the "gatekeepers" at validation to control the amount of applications that go through each week - especially at the moment. One thing wrong on the form and they'll kick it back just to try and hold back the flood. If your application is correct it will be validated. After that it goes into BCCs big black hole to be dealt with (last one for me was something from December... 7 months for an 8 week process!) So something wasn't correct in the initial submission for the application not to be validated for that length of time. Simple as that. Really? Nothing is mentioned in the timeline about the original plan being rejected. I think BNPParibas know what they're doing! The Application Form and South Stand Layout Images were created 7th April and a Design and Access Statement 1st June - which possibly looks a lot like someone in BCC dotting too many i's and crossing too many t's and could be the cause of any delays.
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 18, 2023 9:43:05 GMT
Amidst all the criticism that the new stand hasn't been properly planned for, this has been overlooked:
Application Received Tue 11 Apr 2023 Application Validated Thu 29 Jun 2023
So- what was happening between 11 April and 29 June - on the face of it, BCC caused a 2.5 months delay. I don't know much about the complete planning process but this does seem a long time between receipt and validation.
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 6, 2023 17:36:57 GMT
The Neighbourhood Notification List indicates the council are asking for responses from Alton Road (the only road affected in my opinion), Downend Road, Strathmore Road (behind the West Stand), Trubshaw Close and Ellicott Road plus some on Muller Road. That's heck of a lot of addresses to possibly raise spurious complaints - we've had trouble with the Trubshaw Close lot before - you know - buy a house on a football stadium car park then moan that the stadium needs improvements. Wonder how many 'teds live in those roads?.........
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FGR
Jul 4, 2023 14:36:46 GMT
Post by gassince1957 on Jul 4, 2023 14:36:46 GMT
Big Dunc gone apparently. Opportunity for DC? Does show how quick things change. Lost their promotion winning manager and pretty much been in freefall since. Is our plan to get ready for promotion with the knowledge of a new stadium on the horizon and us being appealing for new players. Big Dunc leaving was always on the cards can see them going down again next season Doesn't their owner support Just Stop Winning?
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Post by gassince1957 on Jun 29, 2023 17:58:53 GMT
Just seen pics on Facebook myself, they ate carrying out the basic work right now. For you doubters I understand but have a small bit of faith. Wael has accomplished more in 7 years that Mr Higgs ever did. Not sure anybody on here is doubting a new stand will be built, just when it be finished is the doubt? As far Wael, what's he actually accomplished by way of either redeveloping the Mem or delivering a new ground? Don't forget NH obtained full pp for a new stadium and almost pulled off financing it, that's way more than Wael's achieved so far in 7 years. I take it you're joking - is this "what have the Romans ever done for us" or are you in fact bonkers? I hope it's the former - you seem to have overlooked paying off the court case loan (on day 1) then writing off £20m debt. Not sure NH ever managed any of that! And the great new stadium where almost all the non matchday takings were for UWE and I believe they also wanted a percentage of matchday takings.
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Post by gassince1957 on Jun 25, 2023 15:34:42 GMT
I know you play devils advocate but you contradict yourself in every other post Not contradicting anything, in my view he'll be a risky signing who'll no doubt split the fan base again, however, we've learnt from both of the JB trials that we need to hear both sides version of the events before drawing any conclusions. Not really - the Barton haters don't accept there was no case to answer, the rest of us are just glad he's our manager! As far as I can tell, the conclusions remain as they were before the trial (especially on the other forum!). I don't know what Jevani Brown did only that he pleaded guilty to one (unspecified) assault and not guilty to another one, so I don't see how any of us can form a conclusion yet.
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Post by gassince1957 on Jun 21, 2023 14:26:51 GMT
Let’s say city make the prem. Would those who support this sh&tfest look forward to Rovers v city U21s? Let's also say unicorns and fairies are real things! The whole thought of them being in the Premier League is frightening!
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Post by gassince1957 on Jun 18, 2023 13:40:43 GMT
Can't say I recall him in the first team. Maybe he was a reserve team Football Combination player?
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Post by gassince1957 on Jun 5, 2023 16:41:05 GMT
I always thought the UWE design missed a trick because it was a large, out of town and easy to get to plot of land. Yet it's commercial potential was never set to be realised because the university demanded so much of it to be taken up by teaching space. Even the commercial units were things that revolved around UWE's priorities like a Creche, convenience store for students, Gym etc. The FM design will be completely different because the developers will want to utilise as much land around the core stadium as possible due to the high land value. This should hopefully mean steeper stands and a better atmosphere as the stadium itself will be compressed onto as smaller space on the plot as the can get away with. However it's important that we still get things like we were due to get at UWE like sufficient hospitality and executive box facilities, modern supporters bar, club shop and museum. I suspect like UWE though, anything on the land beyond the stadium itself we'll have very little input into. Given there were little other developments around the UWE site other than the uni then made sense to try and tap into their students spending on non match days?
As far as the FM I assume Congyer will want to make some money out of the development, if so, then they could also restrict what the club can include within the actual stadium itself. The issue was that we didn't have the right to receive the charges for student parking, teaching, jogging track etc.
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